Andy Card = RICO Suave

[IdesOfOctober]

January 3, 2001: Shrubya names Kenny Boy Lay as one of 474 advisors to his presidential transition team.

June 30, 2001: The White House admits that Karl Rove owned energy stocks while advising on energy policy.

October 15, 2001 (the Ides of October call): Kenny Boy Lay talks to Bush's Commerce Secretary, Donald Evans, to try to arrange a bailout for Enron.

October 16, 2001: Enron announces a $618 million loss, and also discloses a $1.2 billion reduction in shareholder equity, stemming largely from fake special purpose entities.

October 17, 2001: The SEC sends its first request for information.

October 20, 2001: Tom Delay's Republican Majority Issues Committee (RMIC) is tied to Enron and Kenny Boy Lay.

October thru December 2001: The story unravels further, threatening to touch the highest levels of the Bush White House: http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?type=&dateb=2001%2F12%2F31&owner=include&count=40&action=getcompany&CIK=0001024401

January 29, 2002: President Bush, in full-blown panic and triage mode, gives his "Corporate Responsibility" speech during the State of the Union: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/01/20020129-11.html

March 2002: Elaine Chao (the as-yet-unindicted Secretary of Labor) and Eugene Scalia (the as-yet-unindicted Solicitor of Labor) argued to a Federal Judge that State Street should be annointed as the new "special fiduciary" of the Enron pension plans: http://www.erisafraud.com/Portals/7/documents/Polaroid_OrderDenyingMtnDisqualify020405.pdf (See page 6 of the 16-page PDF)

April 19, 2002: The Houston Chronicle reports that the Federal Judge in the Enron case, Arthur Gonzalez, granted Chao's and Scalia's request. The quotes by Elaine Chao and Eugene Scalia in this article are laughable. They are complicit: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/special/enron/1375366.html

The mainstream media was so caught up in the main story - the implosion, the bankruptcy, the devastating loss to the Enron families - that they missed the "side story" of the Bush Administration's maneuvers to have State Street installed as the "special fiduciary" of the Enron pension plans.

At the center of all this? RICO Suave himself, Andrew H. "Andy Boy" Card: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Card

Who better to quiet up another BushCo. mess than State Street? After all, State Street was the "go to" Bushy Bank for the Resolution Trust Corp. bailout of the S&L mess:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resolution_Trust_Corporation

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=resolution+trust+%22state+street%22

Not to mention the fact that Andy Boy Card goes "way back" with another of the Holbrook Hooligans, Ron Logue - Chairman and CEO of State Street: http://www.google.com/search?as_q=card+logue+rocky+times+holbrook&num=10&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=boston.com&as_rights=&safe=images

In fact, Andy Boy Card, Ronny Boy Kaufman (Card's brother-in-law and architect of such dirty tricks as the Willie Horton ads), and Ronny Boy Logue are the Holbrook Hooligans who tried - and ultimately failed - to cover up the BushCo./Enron links.

Watch for indictments coming to a news conference near you. For more of the timeline that the MSM *did* get: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A25624-2002Jan10.html

Ides

[Horse with no Name]

1. Wow

:wow:K&R

[IdesOfOctober]

2. The best part is...

... that there are documents showing the linkage. The highest levels of Bush's inner circle called in the favor from State Street.

Ides

[Buttercup McToots]

6. I'm ready...

and watchin`for the fall cleanin`...
Gawd I do so hate a dirty house...ye know?

[IdesOfOctober]

8. Maybe Pelosi will change her tune...

... about impeachment, and really "clean house," as she keeps promising to do.

Ides

[DoYouEverWonder]

44. I think she just says that

to defuse the issue. Otherwise the freepers would really freak out. This way, when she says impeachment is not on the table, what can they say? What they don't realize is that it doesn't mean that it's not under the table or on Conyer's table.

I'm sure once the DEMs take back Congress and the investigations begin, there will be overwhelming evidence that will force her to change her mind.

[IdesOfOctober]

50. She seems amenable to ...

... "facts not previously in evidence," as the saying goes.

; )

Ides

[Canuckistanian]

66. That's my suspicion, too

Resaonable people change their minds once new facts come to light.

"When my information changes, I change my opinion. What do you do, Sir?"
John Maynard Keynes

[IdesOfOctober]

72. John Kenneth Galbraith had the President's number...

"Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof."

Shrubya is part of the small-minded mob in the latter category. Stay the course.

Ides

[truedelphi]

3. We can only hope that is indictment season

And not terror terror on some new World Trade Center site (Chicago? Houston?
LA or Seattle?)

[IdesOfOctober]

5. I would hazard a safe guess...

... and say that it is, as you put it, "indictment season": http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/jury/faq.html#grandpetit

Ides

[DemReadingDU]

25. or war with Iran?

I figure Cheney wants to start something big, just before the elections. Gotta do something to terrorize those voters to re-elect Republicans.

terror, terror, terror

[IdesOfOctober]

27. Terror, terror, terror? No...

... convict, convict, convict.

Ides

[DemReadingDU]

28. WooHoo!

:woohoo:


:bounce:

[IdesOfOctober]

29. When the Chief of Staff knows...

... the knowledge is imputed to POTUS, too.

Ides

[bleever]

4. "As-yet-unindicted".

I like that.

[IdesOfOctober]

7. That's a "Davidism" ...

... which I think accurately describes the current status of such BushCo. notables as Elaine Boy Chao, Eugene Boy Scalia, and Andy Boy Card.

Ides

[bleever]

17. Elaine Chao, a.k.a. Mrs. Mitch McConnell.

Another fine specimen of "public" servant.

[IdesOfOctober]

18. A couple of Kentucky Kleptocrats...

... for sure.

Don't smoke what they're rolling.

Ides

[DemReadingDU]

32. Sen Mitch McConnell from Kentucky?

won't be up for re-election until 2008

[IdesOfOctober]

35. But he can be expelled...

... under Senate rules, if he doesn't understand the concept of resigning with a shred of honor left.

Ides

[IdesOfOctober]

9. State Street's public position on the Enron matter...

... as expressed by one of its handful of executive vice presidents, the as-yet-unindicted John Serhant: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all&q=serhant+enron+oversight+executive+vice+president+site%3Aaccessmylibrary.com

To get an idea of just how "key" Mr. Serhant was, note his vital role in the currently-pending lawsuit brought by State Street's former Chief Investment Officer, UK citizen Alan Brown: http://www.shareholdersonline.org/litigation (see the table, part of the way down the page)

Mr. Serhant was one of four executives at State Street Global Advisors - the asset management division of State Street - who comprised the so-called "G4": http://www.shareholdersonline.org/pdf/Alan%20Brown%20Casefile/alanbrowndocket56.pdf

Mr. Serhant's public statements about why State Street was tapped by the Bush Administration do not square with documents showing the real timeline and rationale - and Andy Card's communications logs are discoverable.

Ides

[Truthy Nessy]

10. What is happening now

presently.....you gave lots of good links to the past. Now what happens? This week, next week, next month, what? when?

[IdesOfOctober]

11. The past...

... is prologue.

To fully understand - and be able to utilize - what's about to happen, it's vital to know the back story.

Ides

[Truthy Nessy]

12. Your previous posts

said that this was going to be a "fireworks" last week.

[IdesOfOctober]

13. Actually...

... if you read them all, I pointed out that there are two dates that could be considered the Ides of October, depending upon which calendar you're using.

Ides

P.S. Federal prosecutors are a cautious lot. They tend to announce indictments when they have everything wrapped up in a nice bow, and not before.

[Truthy Nessy]

14. so what is the date

to look for.

[IdesOfOctober]

15. I plan to celebrate...

... the Ides of October all over again, tomorrow - using the old calendar.

As for when Federal prosecutors choose to celebrate: that is their call, and resides within their prosecutorial discretion.

Ides

[IdesOfOctober]

16. Anatomy of a Federal grand jury investigation

This might help to explain why it is difficult to announce a specific date:

1. As more evidence is uncovered during a grand jury investigation, previously-recalcitrant witnesses decide to cooperate.

2. A prosecutorial team may decide that there is a key benefit to getting that "one more" witness back in front of the grand jury, to dot an i or cross a t on the indictment.

So, while I personally plan to celebrate the Ides of October this year under the old calendar (just as I celebrated two October 13ths this year), and while I personally plan to do all I can to make it a big celebration, it is not my call to make as to when the fruits of the ongoing investigations are presented for public harvest.

Ides

[yodermon]

19. Complete off-topic (or not) question

Excepting the Scooter Libby trial, do you think Patrick Fitzgerald's Plame investigation has ended?
Do you think he'd have the chutzpah to indict big dick?
Do you think Karl rolled over on said dick? (ew)
thanks.

[IdesOfOctober]

21. Good questions; my best guess answers...

"Excepting the Scooter Libby trial, do you think Patrick Fitzgerald's Plame investigation has ended?"

I honestly believe that Mr. Fitzgerald will go where the facts take him. Just as importantly, I believe that the Wilsons' civil lawsuit will create a "must resign" dynamic for many senior advisors in the Executive Office of the President.

"Do you think he'd have the chutzpah to indict big dick?"

They don't call him Spiro T. Cheney for nothing. Cheney will not serve out the full term, if I were a betting man.

"Do you think Karl rolled over on said dick? (ew)"

I think KKKarl has his own legal problems to worry about at this point. His will be the cautionary tale that GOP parents will be telling their would-be college dropouts for decades to come.

Ides

[Buttercup McToots]

20. It's Okay...

I know it's gonna be good...

I'll watch and wait...
:popcorn:

Ye know Ides...kinda hard for me to believe
that auld Kenny Boy had a bad ticker...
at a most convenient moment..
And the family gets tae keep everything.
Am I too suspicious?

I'm home sick today and sitting in the front row
:applause:

[IdesOfOctober]

22. Actually, it's not uncommon...

... for convicted felons to experience a high degree of stress. Many CEOs are "Type A" personalities, too. So I'm not too suspicious on that count.

I think the DNC should be running ads of Bush's "Corporate Accountability" speech from the 2002 State of the Union (with Cheney and Hastert sitting behind him, clapping) - with a split screen showing that Kenny Boy Lay's conviction was erased, and that his family will emerge with a fortune.

Ides

[truedelphi]

24. The DEMS should add a big Flip Flop

Flip Flop to Bush photos

Like do apoint counter point thing - first a crowd of -like- war protesters

Then a photo of Bush
Then the protesters Back and Forth

Witt Bush you could photoshop in a huge sign he is holding of "Stay the COurse"
Then FLIP FLOP to photoshopped in image of "Need No Course" for Iraq

I would just do a huge photo montage of Bush And have some neat
System Of A Down kinda sound track thing but instead of chanting BOOM! I would have
people in the crowd go Flip FLop!

"Stay the Course" "Cut and Run"

End it with a Michael Moore montage But instead of Michael's "Was it all a dream?"
Have the message be "Can We End this Current NightMare"
WE CAN - Can't WE?

[Mme. Defarge]

89. What stress

if he knew he would never serve time?

[IdesOfOctober]

90. Don't underestimate the damage...

... done to the careful facade he cultivated for family and friends.

How would you like to go through life as Ken Lay's grandchild? Conversely, how would you like to sense that your own grandchildren now wondered if you were a crook?

Ides

[Mme. Defarge]

91. True ...

IF one has a sense of shame.

[IdesOfOctober]

92. I'm going to go out on a limb...

... and say that a massive heart attack is pretty good inferential data to suggest that he felt the stress quite accutely - whether or not he ever faced up to what he did.

Ides

[DemReadingDU]

23. Back in time for the fireworks!

Go get em, Ides!

[IdesOfOctober]

26. They're already "got" - though some of 'em don't yet...

... know it.

Ides

[DemReadingDU]

30. LOL!

I'm looking forward to a big halloween party this year!

:party:

wonder what kind of costumes those as-yet-unindicteds will be wearing, lol!

[IdesOfOctober]

31. Orange and black stripes...

... of course!

'Tis the season!

; )

Ides

[Buttercup McToots]

33. Off Topic waiting for the

party to start...
Ides, you and David appear to be collier lads. Mr. McToots is also...as well as a singer/songwriter.
I thought you both perhaps might appreciate this...




Bloody Hell
Here it is
Seafield Coal

http://www.broadjam.com/transmit/transmit.asp?txygnbz=4811&chkldsxv1=25575&yhgbndsq=1

[IdesOfOctober]

34. Right enjoyable...

... and as for colliers, you should see some of David's family photos from the turn of the last century.

They make Devil Anse Hatfield look like a pussycat (though I think David's related on both sides of that feud).

; )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatfield-McCoy_feud

Ides

[Buttercup McToots]

36. A cousin...

Mr. McToots loves the Appalachian music...and verry good at it he is too.

You know I just learned where the term Hill Billy came from...I never knew this...

The southern Irish Catholic supporters of James II referred to these northern Protestant supporters of King William as "Hill-Billies" and "Billy Boys"--Billy being an abbreviation of William; the term "Billy Boy" is still used today, mainly in Northern Ireland. The Catholics and Protestants were at war and the terms were not spoken in kindness.
It is believed that the term "hillbilly" in the United States was conferred during the early 18th Century by the occupying British soldiers as a carry over from the Irish term, in referring to Scots-Irish immigrants of mainly Presbyterian origin, dwelling in the frontier areas of the Appalachian Mountains.

Amazing...the things that you learn.
I saw that movie that you or David talked about...SongBird?
About the woman that when into the Appalachian mountains to discover the auld music from Ireland and Scotland that
had been brought over...
That was a great film.

Glad ye enjoyed the song.

[IdesOfOctober]

38. And "rednecks" ...

... also have a similar origin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rednecks#Possible_Scots-Irish_etymologies

; )

Some of us remember what the terms meant, what they stood for, and what they are meant to stand against (tyrannies of all types).

Ides

[Buttercup McToots]

39. I know...

Mr. McToots's grandfathers are buried at Culloden.
There is a stone there with their names/clan on it.
Trust me, we know how to fight and what to fight for.

[IdesOfOctober]

40. Longer reply...

"Mr. McToots loves the Appalachian music...and verry good at it he is too."

Some of those instruments have some pretty neat stories to tell, even when silent. Which instrument does Mr. McToots play best? (I'm guessing he dabbles with a few.)

"I saw that movie that you or David talked about...SongBird?"

See Matewan. I bet you'll love it (the music choices alone are stirring): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matewan

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093509/

David's mom did hair and makeup for James Earl Jones and others on the set.

"About the woman that when into the Appalachian mountains to discover the auld music from Ireland and Scotland that had been brought over..."

Just like the old Irish priests saved much of Western Civilization after Rome fell, those old melodies were preserved in the Appalachian highlands. Knowledge is like that - it just takes one little spark to rekindle the fire.

"Glad ye enjoyed the song."

Very much so.

Ides

[Buttercup McToots]

42. Oh my goodness

I saw that film...early one morning...
It was one of the rawest films I ever saw.
And one that you just know is depicted
truthfully. Thats what makes it hurt, as it should.
Mr. McToots plays alot of instruments but
his specialty is the mandolin, guitar, flute
and harmonica.

[IdesOfOctober]

47. All fine instruments...

... I'm partial to the dulcimer, and to the indictment lute.

; )

Ides

[conscious evolution]

41. Speaking of mountain music,

I went to a bluegrass festival this weekend.The Magnolia Festival at the Spirit of the Suwanee Music Camp.
Lotsa great tunes there this weekend under the Midnite Moonlight.

What was really interesting was the amount of anti-bush sentiment there.I saw one person that supported bush.He was screaming and ranting about how we are a bunch of traitors and crap like that.The good thing was that Everyone ignored him.I mean everyone!Most people laughed at him.

No doubt in my mind that bush has lost the 'hillbilly' vote.

[Buttercup McToots]

43. Sorry

Got really off topic...
But you know what they say...
Music lifts the soul...
:)

[IdesOfOctober]

49. Every Revolution...

... needs a good soundtrack, and I can think of few better - or more stirring - genres than Celtic/Gaelic fightin' music!

; )

Ides

[DoYouEverWonder]

46. Those are great little festivals

I live a few hours from there. That's a really nice facility and the Suwanee River is incredible.

[conscious evolution]

54. I go to several a year and the

'wanee is probably the best.The place definitely recharges my batteries when I go.While I go for the music,just being in the great outdoors there is enough to keep me sane the rest of the year.

[IdesOfOctober]

48. Now the DNC needs a Hillbilly guide...

... because those border state Electoral College votes could make all the difference in 08.

Ides

[DoYouEverWonder]

45. Could it be 'Songcatcher'?

Songcatcher (2000)

After being denied a promotion at the university where she teaches, Doctor Lily Penleric, a brilliant musicologist, impulsively visits her sister, who runs a struggling rural school in Appalachia. There she stumbles upon the discovery of her life - a treasure trove of ancient Scots-Irish ballads, songs that have been handed down from generation to generation, preserved intact by the seclusion of the mountains. With the goal of securing her promotion, Lily ventures into the most isolated areas of the mountains to collect the songs and finds herself increasingly enchanted - not only by the rugged purity of the music, but also by the raw courage and endurance of the local people as they carve out meaningful lives against the harshest conditions. It is not, however, until she meets Tom - a handsome, hardened war veteran and talented musician - that she's forced to examine her motivations. Is the "Songcatcher," as Tom insists, no better than the men who exploit the people and extort their land?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0210299/plotsummary


This is one that's on my must see list, just haven't gotten around to it. Plus I play old time fiddle and father-in-law taught at WVU, so I know your area fairly well.

[IdesOfOctober]

51. That's the one...

... though I think it takes a bit of literary license with the actual story of how the "lost" ballads were "rediscovered".

Ides

[DoYouEverWonder]

52. I'm gonna get to spend Election Day

in Gatlinburg again this year. I was there for the 2000 Election. The high point was almost getting beat up at dinner, by a large woman from Colorado, because I asked her 'what was wrong with 8 years of peace and prosperity under Clinton?'

[IdesOfOctober]

55. Be sure to see Dollywood and the Ripley's ...

... Believe It Or Not Museum. I hear they have a great exhibit about the 2000 election.

Bush won - believe it or not!

; )

Ides

[Swamp Rat]

37. k&r

[IdesOfOctober]

53. Just one of the charges that make Andy Boy Card RICO Suave...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2442405&mesg_id=2466631

Ides

[Vinca]

56. So that must be why Andy Boy wanted to beat feet so badly and

install another Chief of Staff ASAP, figuring he'd be indicted at some point before the next election.

[IdesOfOctober]

57. The true story of Andy Boy Card's resignation...

... will - WILL - come out in the wash.

Ides

[IdesOfOctober]

58. Off to see the lizard ...

... a wee bit o' celebratin' is going on in DC tonight (trick or treat comes early this year). I'll check back later.

Ides

[CorpGovActivist]

59. One More Interview (on Background) This Evening...

... and then I'll be at the party.

- Dave

[alfredo]

60. It's going to be fun watching bush cheney sweat as their criminal

empire crumbles before their eyes.

[CorpGovActivist]

61. To Pardon, Or Not To Pardon...

... that will be the question for Bush, as he - like his father before him - must decide whether blind loyalty to BushCo. is sufficient to warrant the pardon pen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush#Pardons

- Dave

P.S. One key difference this time, though (unlike Weinberger's pardon): with the advent of e-mail and the Internet, the recipients of the damning communications can still produce them - so any attempt to cover up what Andy Card did will amount to nothing.

[alfredo]

62. If there is a Republican president come 2009, bush and

his crime family will probably get pardoned. Can he pardon himself?

[Buttercup McToots]

63. Good Nicht My Dears...

Sleep Well

[alfredo]

64. This shot of bourbon will put me asleep soon.

[IdesOfOctober]

70. The self-pardon question came up...

... during the Clinton impeachment, and was hotly debated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Two_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Clause_1:_Command_of_military.3B_Opinions_of_cabinet_secretaries.3B_Pardons

"...and he shall have power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment."

The pardon given to Nixon by Ford was permissible, technically, since articles of impeachment had not yet been voted out of the House, and Nixon was no longer "impeachable" once he resigned: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nixon#Watergate

Ides

[alfredo]

76. I was thinking more of pardoning himself for any war crimes

he committed during his presidency so US courts won't be able to touch him.

[IdesOfOctober]

79. It depends...

... on whether those are impeachable offenses, and actually become the subject of drafted articles of impeachment.

Ides

[alfredo]

114. Bringing him to justice might do a lot to rehabilitate our

name world wide.

[IdesOfOctober]

119. Agreed...

... impeachment is good for the soul (of the nation).

Ides

[alfredo]

121. Impeachment and removal doesn't really address the seriousness

of his crimes. Only a war crime tribunal either in the US or the Hague will satisfy his victims.

We must remove this stain or we will lose what friends we have left.

[IdesOfOctober]

122. The two are not...

... mutually exclusive.

Ides

[alfredo]

123. Think long range. Impeachment is politically risky. We don't have

the votes to remove him in the senate. The republicans are more loyal to the party than to the constitution. They will not vote for removal. They will then attack the Dems for wasting our money and time in a failed attempt to overthrow their president. Even if we are successful, we run the risk of putting cheney in as president, and the RNC's pick for 2008 as Veep. If we try to remove both, it will be seen as a power grab.

It is better to have bush in cheney in office but powerless. With them there we can manage the release of evidence against them. If we find enough and are good at presenting it, a prosecutor could pick up the case when they leave office. It is much better politically to have them as punching bags for the next two years. bush and cheney are the posterboys of how bad the republicans really are.

If we play our cards right, bush, cheney, and the rest of the junta will be facing war crime charges. Impeachment may short circuit that effort by satisfying the need to punish him, or in the worse case, give the republicans an issue.

[IdesOfOctober]

124. I would bet on...

"If we find enough and are good at presenting it, a prosecutor could pick up the case when they leave office."

1. It's already been found, catalogued, indexed, and stored in redundant locations.

2. It's already been presented to one or more grand juries.

3. A prosecutorial team is already on it.

I'd bet hard money on it. You should too.

Ides

[alfredo]

125. Some prosecutors in the Hague mentioned that bush

had committed war crimes, so I guess someone has built up quite a dossier on him.

If I had my choice, I'll take the war crime tribunal. He would get a fairer trial than he is willing to give to others.

[IdesOfOctober]

126. How in the world...

... would the extradition on that work?

Ides

[alfredo]

127. That's why we need to investigate and expose the full extent

of his crimes against humanity. If the people knew the full extent of his crimes, they may not put up much resistance to him being tried at the Hague. Still it would be better if US courts took on the case.

[IdesOfOctober]

128. Impeachment doesn't preclude subsequent...

... prosecution, here and/or abroad.

Ides

[alfredo]

129. Right, but if the public perceives impeachment to be suitable

punishment, it might make it more difficult to prosecute him here at home, or to accept extradition to the Hague. So, keep him in office and build a case for war crime charges. That would be the way to go.

[CorpGovActivist]

130. Impeachment, Then Conviction in Multiple Forums?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_States

- Dave

[IdesOfOctober]

131. Sounds like a plan...

... to me.

What better way to restore America's image abroad, than to submit our very own Pinochet to a global trial?

Ides

[Canuckistanian]

65. Great stuff, Ides

But one thing I'd like to know - What went on between Kenny-Boy and Donald Evans at that first (pre-Enron meltdown) meeting?

[Buttercup McToots]

67. Good Morning Everyone

What will the day bring us?:)

[DemReadingDU]

68. Good Morning Buttercup!

Hope you are feeling better.

I'm hoping when the news conference is scheduled, that Ides or CGA will give us a heads-up so we can tune in and watch it.

[Buttercup McToots]

69. Good Morning Dem

Thank you, I am better...still stuffy but I had my toddy last night so I slept better.
Yes, I too am waiting.I'm sure Ides and David will pop in for updates.


:)

[IdesOfOctober]

74. For my part...

... I plan to sky write it!

: )

Buttercup, I add my well wishes. Did the whisky at least make the germs dizzy?

; )

Ides

[IdesOfOctober]

73. Early trick or treaters...

... dressed up like U.S. Marshals, handing out treats?

; )

Ides

[CorpGovActivist]

75. The EOP Halloween Memo

Date: October 30, 2006
From: Joshua B. Bolten, Chief of Staff
To: All Staff
Re: Halloween
*******************************************
It has come to our attention that some of
you may still participate in the quaint
ritual known as trick-or-treating.

However, it has also come to our attention
that adult "chaperones" may be used this
year to serve process on unsuspecting White
House staffers.

Accordingly, POTUS has ordered that no
member of the White House Staff is to
participate in Halloween trick-or-treating
in their neighborhood this year.

Depending on the expected indictments,
Christmas may be canceled as well.

JBB

[IdesOfOctober]

71. GOP Commerce Secretaries...

... have, in recent years, been almost like a "minister without a portfolio" - the post has almost become a gimmee to each GOPresident's campaign politicos. The job naturally requires lots of domestic and oversees travel, making it an "under the radar" back channel to the GOPresident for foreign leaders and domestic special interests (read: Corporate America): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commerce_Secretary

Certainly, there can be little doubt that Donny Boy Evans had the GOPresident's ear - and Kenny Boy Lay would have known that, given their history together on the campaign: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Evans

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[Buttercup McToots]

77. Interesting...

Secretary Evans currently serves as CEO of the Financial Services Forum, a trade association representing the CEOs of financial services firms dedicated to promoting policies that encourage an open and competitive global marketplace.

Finacial Services Forum....mmmmm

Financial Services Forum Leadership
Donald L. Evans, CEO
Robert S. Nichols, President & COO

Other Forum Staff

Member Institutions
Chairman
Charles Prince, Citigroup, Inc.
Vice Chairman
G. Kennedy Thompson, Wachovia Corporation,.

AIG, Martin J. Sullivan
Allstate Insurance Company, Edward M. Liddy
American Express Company, Kenneth I. Chenault
Bank of New York, Thomas Renyi
Citigroup Inc., Charles Prince
Deutsche Bank AG, Dr. Josef Ackermann
Edward Jones, James D. (Jim) Weddle
Fidelity Investments, Robert L. Reynolds
GE Commercial Finance, Michael A. Neal
Goldman Sachs, Lloyd C. Blankfein
HSBC, Stephen K. Green
JP Morgan Chase & Co., James Dimon
Lehman Brothers, Richard S. Fuld, Jr.
Merrill Lynch, Stan O'Neal
MetLife, C. Robert (Rob) Henrikson
Morgan Stanley, John J. Mack
Prudential Financial, Arthur F. Ryan
State Street Corporation, Ronald E. Logue
UBS AG, Peter A. Wuffli
Wachovia Corporation, G. Kennedy Thompson.

[Buttercup McToots]

78. Up ye go...

Bump!

[IdesOfOctober]

80. Now you're cooking with gas...

... on the front burner.

I'd hate to see you at full capacity, sans "bad cold"!

; )

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[Buttercup McToots]

81. Yepee

I'm playin` Nancy Drew...

[IdesOfOctober]

82. You should meet the real life...

... Hardy Boys.

; )

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[Buttercup McToots]

85. I Think I have...

;-)

[IdesOfOctober]

87. You know what they say...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientia_potentia_est

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Bacon

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=freemasonry+francis+bacon

Knowledge about the true machinations of Andy Card and the other cabal members in the Executive Office of the President - in the hands of the electorate this year - translates into power at the ballot box.

Ides

[IdesOfOctober]

83. P.S. Happy Ides...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2476912&mesg_id=2476912

[Buttercup McToots]

84. WOW

I'm ashamed of myself...
I didn't know this...

Designated survivor
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A designated survivor is a member of the United States Cabinet who stays at a physically distant, secure, undisclosed location when the country's top leaders, including the president are gathered at a single location in order to maintain continuity of government with regard to presidential succession in the remote possibility of a catastrophic event which could wipe out large portions of the United States' federal government.

During State of the Union Addresses and presidential inaugurations (which almost all top-ranked federal officials attend) one member of the Cabinet, the designated survivor, is kept in a separate, secure, and undisclosed location apart from the rest of the Cabinet should a catastrophic event occur. It is a practice which originated in the darkest days of the Cold War amid fears of a nuclear attack.

Since the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, one Representative and one Senator of each political party have also served as designated survivors concurrently with the Cabinet member, so they can ascend to the office of Speaker of the House of Representatives or President Pro Tempore of the Senate (the offices which are first and second in the line of succession to the Presidency, respectively, after the Vice President).


2005 State of the Union: Donald Evans**, Secretary of Commerce
Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK), President Pro Tempore of the Senate
Sen. Kent Conrad (D-ND), Ranking Democrat, Senate Budget Committee
Rep. John Doolittle (R-CA), House Republican Conference Secretary
Rep. George Miller (D-CA), Ranking Democrat, House Education and the Workforce Committee
2006 State of the Union: Jim Nicholson**, Secretary of Veterans Affairs
Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK), President Pro Tempore of the Senate
Sen. Byron Dorgan (D-ND)
Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA)
Rep. George Miller (D-CA)

[IdesOfOctober]

86. If you listen to Tim Russert's pre-game commentary...

... each State of the Union, he usually notes who sat out.

Also of interest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greenbrier#Secret_Emergency_Relocation_Center

; )

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[IdesOfOctober]

88. Logue and the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=federal+reserve+bank+boston+logue

Beginning to get the picture?

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[Buttercup McToots]

93. Holy Shyte

The Federal Reserve?

Everything? Cancer everywhere?

[IdesOfOctober]

94. Nothing that RICO chemo can't cure...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=marshall+n.+carter+%22state+street%22+stock+exchange

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22state+street%22+boston+stock+exchange+lopardo

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22state+street%22+boston+stock+exchange+bonn

And to think that you'd never even heard of this Bushy Bank a month ago!

; )

Ides

[IdesOfOctober]

95. Rule #1 of GOP scandals?

Follow the money. After all, even the Third Reich needed bankers to carry out its evildoings:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=bush+nazi+gold+harriman

Ides

[IdesOfOctober]

96. Iran-Contra? Follow the money...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=iran+contra+arms+hostages

Ides

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97. Watergate? Follow the money...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watergate_scandal

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=watergate+%22follow+the+money%22

Ides

[IdesOfOctober]

98. S&L bailout for Bush brothers? Follow the money...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=resolution+trust+%22state+street%22

(and note that State Street was the trusted fixer in that scandal, too)

Ides

[Buttercup McToots]

99. IdesofOctober...

I really feel sick.
People have to know this. If they did
they would hang these criminals.
It seems so deep...so embeded...
Can it be fixed/cleaned?
I was excited about following the mystery
having no idea of the scope of this.
Indeed, I do feel sick...
You and David are to be commended.
Thank You
Buttercup

[IdesOfOctober]

100. This, too, shall pass...

... as the saying goes, "All tyrannies crumble."

"I really feel sick."

Trust me. It passes.

"People have to know this. If they did
they would hang these criminals."

The jig is up. Shrubya finally succeeded in pissing off the wrong people, who aren't one bit afraid to choose the Constitution over the Caligulites.

"It seems so deep...so embeded...
Can it be fixed/cleaned?"

Yes, and yes.

"I was excited about following the mystery
having no idea of the scope of this."

The downside of knowledge: is ignorance bliss? Would Einstein unknow how to split the atom?

"Indeed, I do feel sick..."

Whisky and bitters.

; )

"You and David are to be commended."

Thanks. David's family has been put through pure hell - and they're as resilient and upbeat as ever.

Ides

[Buttercup McToots]

101. Celtic Blood

is potent.

Weel, I'm sure the fireworks
will make me feel better.

Everyone should be reading
this thread though.
Is Andy hiding?

And Kerry knows about this?
Will he speak up?

[IdesOfOctober]

102. You wrote "potent," but I read...

... "muleheaded," and David has more than his fair share from both sides.

; )

"Weel, I'm sure the fireworks
will make me feel better."

I wish I could say for certain when they'll go off. Last-minute witness flips and other small delays caution against saying, "This date certain will be *the* day."

But I feel confident that I'll at least be able to give a quick heads-up.

"Everyone should be reading
this thread though."

And checking their pension plans - and the plans of those they care about - for an infestation.

"Is Andy hiding?"

I chortled when I saw him recently, giving an interview. He's nowhere near being out of the woods, and should be avoiding the business end of news cameras like the plague. Same goes for James Baker.

"And Kerry knows about this?"

Aye.

"Will he speak up?"

Aye. But the timing is important, as history teaches: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_the_bruce

; )

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[DemReadingDU]

103. Didn't Bush Senior invite A.Card to boat christening?

I heard somewher Bush Jr & Laura were not too happy seeing him.

[IdesOfOctober]

104. Andy Card sank their...

... battleship!

:p

I couldn't resist.

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[IdesOfOctober]

113. A few others on that list...

... are shady: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all&q=john+mack+pequot+SEC+attorney+gary+aguirre

Friends in high places...and the SEC staff attorney leading that investigation has gone public with allegations that the Bush Administration politicos interfered.

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[Blackhatjack]

105. I'd like your opinion on this question(following up on a suspicion)

This Congress passed a little noticed amendment of the tax code which allowed corporations to 'bring back into the country income they earned overseas but never reported' with the privisio that there would be no penalties, no interest, and the effective tax rate on the funds brought back to the US would be less than 10%.

Of course, all a corporation had to do was declare the income, pay the tax and deposit the funds in their accounts.

The question: Why was this not a massive money laundering operation?

Any corporation could 'declare' the income, with no obligation to provide any documentation of how the money came into their possession, and wash the money clean.

If you had massive amounts of cash 'offshore' that had been earned through drug dealing, arms smuggling, etc. why would this not be right down your alley.

Is this what happened to the 'missing' Enron assets?

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106. I think you'll find it was called...

... wait for it: "the American Jobs Creation Act of 2004," yet another of the Orwellian name games that KKKarl Rove plays with BushCo. legislation:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=american+jobs+creation+act+repatriation

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P.S. Yes, this was amnesty for corporations, and should be one of the first pieces of GOP giveaways to be re-visited by the new Congressional leaders.

[Blackhatjack]

107. It was supposed to be a 'one-shot' deal....

.... and it cropped up at just the right time for Enron $$$ to come back into the country with the help of other 'legitimate' corporations.

So you would have to know which 'legitimate' corporations to investigate to find the Enron offshore money coming back into the US. The IRS is not going to investigate a corporation for reporting too much income, so they are relatively safe from being discovered.

That is why you need to go higher on the chain to a character like Grover Norquist, a known money launderer, and work backward to trace the money trail knowing that 'legitimate' corporations are not all that innocent.

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109. The more "respectable" and "venerable" any...

... corporation or institution is, the more prone it is to having its good name used by unscrupulous actors who had nothing to do with building it.

We're wise to "legitimate" and "respectable" businesses' practices.

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[KoKo]

115. And, wasn't that money that was "re-patriated" last year supposed to

go for investment in jobs? Yet, the jobs haven't materialized and CNBC carries on daily about how much "cash & liquidity" that companies are sitting on. There have been a few questions about why "R&D" and job growth haven't followed. And, we all know the "unemployment numbers" are not reported accurately and tht the Mergers and Acquistions and Spin Offs are still going on...while the companies sit on their "re-patriated," money.

Awful lot of shopping center and office park construction going on in the Southeastern US, though. We wonder where the money comes from to build all this. And, who is planning on all these extra shoppers for the chain stores filling the centers or where the business will come from to fill the
large office parks as our economy winds down from the Housing Bubble.

There are many strange things going on out there. If one has been around a few decades to notice the sudden spike in the last couple of years.

[DemReadingDU]

117. Lots of gorgeous shopping centers & office parks

going on in SW Ohio too. Many of us wonder who is going to be able to shop in those luxury new stores when most of the people are only making minimum wage jobs.

And we can't figure out why new office buildings are going up when so many of the other office buildings are sitting near empty.

Also new houses are being constructed costing over $500,000! Who are the people that can afford buying that kind of house!

Indeed, some strange things going on.

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120. Repatriated earnings and the recent stock market climb...

... haven't you wondered why all of a sudden the Dow is breaking new records?

Simulated wealth effect, largely created by repatriated earnings being plowed in to prop up stock prices (e.g., through stock repurchase programs), and a desperate ploy at that.

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[Blackhatjack]

108. So What Has Andy Card Been Up To Since He Resigned????

That might give you a clue as to the defensive moves being contemplated by the WH inhabitants.

I know a common technique for law enforcement is to just sit back and watch once the 'target' has an idea that he may be in trouble. Is that what is going on with Card since his resignation??

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110. Andy Boy Card...

... isn't that bright. Shrewd, yes. Bright, no.

"So What Has Andy Card Been Up To Since He Resigned????"

LOL. Sending away to Condi for the State Department pamphlet listing non-extradition treaty countries?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extradition

; )

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[Blackhatjack]

111. If Indictments Are in His Future, He Must Be Feeling The Heat....

...I was wondering whether he was in a position to make documents and records disappear.

If he were a President, he could wrap them in shrink wrap, put them on a pallet and have them flown to George H.W. Bush's Presidential Library, like George W. did.

[IdesOfOctober]

112. It's the stray communications...

... they have to worry about.

The stuff that happens "in-house" is harder to get. But the stuff that gets sent outside the confines of the White House - well, you never know who might hang onto a copy as a souvenir.

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[Buttercup McToots]

116. Good Morning

:)

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118. Bump

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