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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 10:29 AM
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IRAQI DEATH SQUADS were trained by NEGROPONTE's advisors
Edited on Tue Oct-24-06 10:34 AM by Julius Civitatus
(edited for typos)

I suspected this long ago; now there's a trail that starts to show some solid evidence of that suspicion.

Since the notorious John Negroponte served as ambassador to Iraq, death squads appeared in Baghdad using methods very similar to those used by paramilitary guerrillas in Central America... which took place while Honduras was under Negroponte's supervision.
Same guy, same methods.

Today I read there is more reason to suspect Negroponte's "advise" in the creation of the Iraqi death squads:


http://alternet.org/waroniraq/43335

Government Death Squads Ravaging Baghdad


Death squads from the Ministry of Interior posing as Iraqi police are killing more people than ever in the capital, emerging evidence shows.

The death toll is high -- in all 1,536 bodies were brought to the Baghdad morgue in September. The health ministry announced last month that it will build two new morgues in Baghdad to take their capacity to 250 bodies a day
.

Many fear a government hand in more killings to come. The U.S. military has revealed that the 8th Iraqi Police Unit was responsible for the Oct. 1 kidnapping of 26 Sunni food factory workers in the Amil quarter in southwest Baghdad. The bodies of ten of them were later found in Abu Chir neighborhood in the capital.

...

The force is led by Mehdi al-Gharrawi, who also led similar security units during the U.S.-led attack on Fallujah in November 2004.

"All criminals who survived the Fallujah crisis after committing genocide and other war crimes were granted higher ranks," Major Amir Jassim from the ministry of defence said. "I and many of my colleagues were not rewarded because we disobeyed orders to set fire to people's houses (in Fallujah) after others looted them."

Jassim said the looting and burning of homes in Fallujah during the November siege was ordered from the ministries of interior and defence.

"Now they want to do the same things they did in Fallujah in all Sunni areas so that they ignite a civil war in Iraq," said Jassim, referring to the Shia-dominated ministries. "A civil war is the only guarantee for them to stay in power, looting such incredible amounts of money."

...

A UN human rights report released September last year held interior ministry forces responsible for an organised campaign of detentions, torture and killings. It reported that special police commando units accused of carrying out the killings were recruited from Shia Badr and Mehdi militias, and trained by U.S. forces.

Retired Col. James Steele, who served as advisor on Iraqi security forces to then U.S. Ambassador John Negroponte supervised the training of these forces.

Steele was commander of the U.S. military advisor group in El Salvador 1984-86, while Negroponte was U.S. ambassador to nearby Honduras 1981-85. Negroponte was accused of widespread human rights violations by the Honduras Commission on Human Rights in 1994. The Commission reported the torture and disappearance of at least 184 political workers.

The violations Negroponte oversaw in Honduras were carried out by operatives trained by the CIA, according to a CIA working group set up in 1996 to look into the U.S. role in Honduras.

The CIA records document that his "special intelligence units," better known as "death squads," comprised CIA-trained Honduran armed units which kidnapped, tortured and killed thousands of people suspected of supporting leftist guerrillas.

.....


Your tax dollars at work, supporting the creation, training and supervision of death squads in third-world countries.

:puke:
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 10:37 AM
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1. kick
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 10:39 AM
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2. Like El Salvador before them
Death squad terrorism is Negroponte's specialty.

K&R
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 10:45 AM
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3. Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Panama...
Negroponte and his buddies left a trail of death and destruction in Central America all through the 1980s.
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 11:15 AM
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8. indeed n/t
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jarnocan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 10:53 AM
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4. so much sick and twisted BU**SH** nt
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 10:53 AM
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5. God knows what he plans for the U.S.
He's been "Director of National Intelligence" for over a year,
I have no doubt death squads will show up here.
It's what he does.

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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 10:55 AM
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6. Yes, I forgot: he is now the intelligence czar in the USA
He is the guy on top of the NSA.

Frightening.

:scared:
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 10:02 PM
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24. DItto.
:hide:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 10:56 AM
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7. I have only one response
Duh!!!
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 11:25 AM
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9. like Stalin and Hitler before him. Negroponte rounds up and kills leftists.
...and anyone else critical of the regime.

And now he too is Czar.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 11:40 AM
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10. Well of course.
Was there ever any question? It is his stock and trade and something we are very very good at.

Too bad so many people I spoke with when he was selected and sent over said "Negroponte who?" They were my age, plenty old enough to remember him if they only paid one tiny bit of attention.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 11:44 AM
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11. Why shouldn't * make Iraq like 80's Central America...
He's trying to make the US into 70's South America.

All part of his master "outdo Poppy" wet dream.
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 02:34 PM
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12. Kick! n/t
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turbo_satan Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 02:37 PM
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13. Know what would close the loop perfectly?
If Halliburton got the contract for building the new morgues. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

<sigh>
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 03:00 PM
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14. The A team from Hell...John Negroponte/Gen. "Jerry" Boykin
MOVING TARGETS

by SEYMOUR M. HERSH

The Bush Administration has authorized a major escalation of the Special Forces covert war in Iraq. In interviews over the past month, American officials and former officials said that the main target was a hard-core group of Baathists who are believed to be behind much of the underground insurgency against the soldiers of the United States and its allies. A new Special Forces group, designated Task Force 121, has been assembled from Army Delta Force members, Navy seals, and C.I.A. paramilitary operatives, with many additional personnel ordered to report by January. Its highest priority is the neutralization of the Baathist insurgents, by capture or assassination.

The revitalized Special Forces mission is a policy victory for Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, who has struggled for two years to get the military leadership to accept the strategy of what he calls “Manhunts”—a phrase that he has used both publicly and in internal Pentagon communications. Rumsfeld has had to change much of the Pentagon’s leadership to get his way. “Knocking off two regimes allows us to do extraordinary things,” a Pentagon adviser told me, referring to Afghanistan and Iraq.

One step the Pentagon took was to seek active and secret help in the war against the Iraqi insurgency from Israel, America’s closest ally in the Middle East. According to American and Israeli military and intelligence officials, Israeli commandos and intelligence units have been working closely with their American counterparts at the Special Forces training base at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, and in Israel to help them prepare for operations in Iraq. Israeli commandos are expected to serve as ad-hoc advisers—again, in secret—when full-field operations begin. (Neither the Pentagon nor Israeli diplomats would comment. “No one wants to talk about this,” an Israeli official told me. “It’s incendiary. Both governments have decided at the highest level that it is in their interests to keep a low profile on U.S.-Israeli coöperation” on Iraq.) The critical issue, American and Israeli officials agree, is intelligence. There is much debate about whether targeting a large number of individuals is a practical—or politically effective—way to bring about stability in Iraq, especially given the frequent failure of American forces to obtain consistent and reliable information there.

Americans in the field are trying to solve that problem by developing a new source of information: they plan to assemble teams drawn from the upper ranks of the old Iraqi intelligence services and train them to penetrate the insurgency. The idea is for the infiltrators to provide information about individual insurgents for the Americans to act on. A former C.I.A. station chief described the strategy in simple terms: “U.S. shooters and Iraqi intelligence.” He added, “There are Iraqis in the intelligence business who have a better idea, and we’re tapping into them. We have to resuscitate Iraqi intelligence, holding our nose, and have Delta and agency shooters break down doors and take them”—the insurgents—“out.” more...

http://www.newyorker.com/printables/fact/031215fa_fact


Israel trains US assassination squads in Iraq


Julian Borger in Washington
Tuesday December 9, 2003
The Guardian


Israeli advisers are helping train US special forces in aggressive counter-insurgency operations in Iraq, including the use of assassination squads against guerrilla leaders, US intelligence and military sources said yesterday.
The Israeli Defence Force (IDF) has sent urban warfare specialists to Fort Bragg in North Carolina, the home of US special forces, and according to two sources, Israeli military "consultants" have also visited Iraq.

US forces in Iraq's Sunni triangle have already begun to use tactics that echo Israeli operations in the occupied territories, sealing off centres of resistance with razor wire and razing buildings from where attacks have been launched against US troops.

But the secret war in Iraq is about to get much tougher, in the hope of suppressing the Ba'athist-led insurgency ahead of next November's presidential elections. More...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1102940,00.html

Four Characters in Search of a Prosecutor: Miller, Boykin, Cambone and Feith
The Gitmo Documents
By LILA RAJIVA

A year of stonewalling a Freedom of Information lawsuit by the Associated Press and now the Pentagon releases documents (Friday, March 3, 2006) with the names of hundreds of detainees held at Guantanamo.

The more than five thousand pages give us a flavor of the eclectic--ragtag, might be a better word--mix of prisoners in the Cuban camp and the equally varied treatment they received. The British Guardian-- from a keen sense of fair play, one supposes--devotes a column to telling us that after all, yes, there were two young boys who actually had a good time of it-- said good time running to movies, books, and soccer games. That wipes the slate clean on Abu Ghraib, see?

It would be interesting to know more about those two .... and about the many more boys who didn't exactly get such Eagle Scout treatment, but what we'd really like to know is why we get a breathless column devoted to this reassuring anomaly but no one sees fit to give equal time to any of the three hundred other prisoners who testify to goings on a tad less pleasant.

The hitherto nameless three hundred turn into recognizable characters in these new documents. There are goat herds and shopkeepers; there is the Taliban cook carrying a radio and hand grenades, the Iraqi millionaire who worked for MI5--only they deny it--and the Afghan farmer clinging to his rifle and his frontier freedom like a Montana militiaman cornered by the Feds. There are the metals cages made from discarded shipping containers --six by six, exposed to sun and rain--in which the prisoners were caged 24/7 and let out, shackled, only to use the toilet. There were the regular and severe punishments doled out for infractions as senseless as having an extra cup in the cage. MORE...

http://www.counterpunch.org/rajiva03102006.html


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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 03:03 PM
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15. Its a Civil War!
Oh, wait a minute. Actually it sounds more like Bush and his goons are committing genocide in Iraq.

Don
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 03:08 PM
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16. I suspected the "Salvador option" playing a part
in the early stages of this thing, and I still think Negroponte and the others were involved, but it's gone far beyond them by now.

They certainly did not intend this. They quite clearly have no clue how to handle it.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 03:15 PM
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17. They certainly did not intend this...
:rofl:
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 03:18 PM
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18. They are in retreat mode.
Edited on Tue Oct-24-06 03:20 PM by Unvanguard
And have been for a while now.

Note Bush's recent renunciation of "stay the course" - for a man as arrogant and unapologetic as him, that is an indicator of desperation, not of success.

The war has devastated them politically, has humiliated them before the world, and will not accomplish its objective of bringing Iraq under US control.

Edit: Which is not to mitigate their responsibility for this disaster, nor the atrociousness of the tactics they have used.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 03:20 PM
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19. Didn't Bush and his minions all get wealthier off this fiasco?
Of course they did. And that is all that counts to scum like that.

Don
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 03:39 PM
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20. Yep. No surprise from the guy that also vetted the Dubai ports
deal, he's BFEE's version of Beria/Heydrich imo. Kill, torture, disappear anyone on a "list", no habeas corpus needed, no international laws, no Geneva Conventions, no Nuremberg findings, etc.-it's up to the decider and his loyalist crew.




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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 08:53 PM
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21. Kick!
:kick:
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 09:01 PM
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22. BTW, Negroponte's guard were involved in the shooting of Italian journalist
last year? Remember that sad episode?


http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000836000

U.S. Troops Who Fired on Freed Italian Journalist Were Security for Negroponte

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) U.S. troops who mistakenly killed an Italian intelligence agent last week on the road to Baghdad's international airport were part of extra security provided by the U.S. Army to protect U.S. Ambassador John Negroponte, a U.S. official said Thursday.

Italian intelligence agent Nicola Calipari was killed Friday when U.S. troops opened fire on a car carrying him and Italian journalist Giuliana Sgrena, who had just been freed from insurgents.

"The mobile patrol was there to enhance security because Ambassador Negroponte was expected through," U.S. Embassy spokesman Robert Callahan said, confirming reports in Italian media. The newspaper La Repubblica reported Wednesday that the checkpoint had been "set up to protect the passage of Ambassador Negroponte."

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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 09:36 PM
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23. *gasp* no! you mean he's still a one-trick pony war criminal?
oh, and here i thought he changed... :cry:
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:54 AM
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25. Kick! n/t
:kick:
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