What is your opinion of a Hillary/Obama ticket?

[Herman Munster]

Would it shake things up and excite the millions and millions of non-voter women and minorities to the polls in droves or be a complete unmitigated disaster?

Because for what it is worth, I believe that if Hillary wins the primary she will have to pick a minority VP to get the critical black record turnout she will need to win.

[mmonk]

1. Put Obama first and I'll think about it.

Hillary has been made into some sort of bogeyman whereby I don' think the sheep in America will go for a ticket headed by her.

[Jim Sagle]

2. DLC Heaven!!!!! Let's hear a big corporate moooooo for the supercentrist

twooooooo.

[LWolf]

41. Just what I was thinking. N/t

[Buzz Clik]

3. ... in another 6 years. Too early for Obama.

[Yupster]

35. I agree

I don't see Hillary taking a chance with a newcomer.

My prediction is Hillary/ Bill Richardson.

[truebrit71]

4. ..it will mean another Rethuglican pretzeldent...

..short and simple...

[Robbien]

5. no

not hilary
not obama

[darkism]

6. Well let's see...

Dems don't like Hillary because she's a torture-supporting conservative
Pubs don't like Hillary because she's a woman AND a CLINTON

Dems would have reservations about voting for Obama because he's relatively inexperienced
Pubs just hate black people.

...and senators don't win.


It would be a wonderful ticket to have, but they'd never win.

[Webster Green]

7. Ralph

:puke:

[jackbourassa]

8. The Clintonistas are out in full force today!

Give it up will ya! Hillary won't win the nomination!

Remember Lieberman led by similar numbers at this point in the 2004 cycle. He ignored the fact that us progressives didn't like him. The media did too. Howard Dean was at 2% (with a 3% MOE) during this same period.

Look how that turned out.

Hillary won't win. She has too many strikes against her.

[Warren DeMontague]

9. More appealing than a Hillary/Leiberman ticket.

But that's about the only positive I can come up with.

[Subdivisions]

10. One thumb down, one thumb up.

I prefer to see Gore as the headliner.

[Nite Owl]

11. By the end of this*

term we will have had twenty years of a Bush or a Clinton. We need someone new, new blood, new ideas for '08.

[LeahD]

12. No. I like the sound of Kerry/Obama much better. n/t

[countmyvote4real]

13. Hilary is a turn off. n/t

[varkam]

14. Even though Obama has said some things...

that I'm fairly leery of, he still won me over with his speech at the DNC in 2004. I'd vote for Obama, for sure.

I'm much more hesitant when it comes to Hillary. It seems to me she has been moving further to the right, which alienates many liberals (myself included).

[snacker]

25. I feel the same way.

Obama certainly has a charisma that I haven't seen in a politician for a long time.

[Synnical]

15. Stop it, HRC isn't going to run, nor is Obama. n/t

[Lydia Leftcoast]

16. Geeze, we could almost have a GD Post Generator

Column A (list of Dem politicians)

Column B (list of Dem politicians)

Take one from Column A and one from Column B

"How about A and B in 2008?"

You're all focused on PR and personalities. What would these candidates accomplish? What do they believe in? Do you even know?

[Ninja Jordan]

17. My hope is that neither run

[Rowdyboy]

18. I'd vote for them, but neither will be on the ticket in the end...

Neither will run. But the Republicans are gambling everything counting on a Hillary campaign.

[sueh]

19. No.

Gore/Clark instead. Hillary is too much in the center and too repub like. I voted for Obama, but I had no idea the DLC would turn him into a rock star for the Democratic Party. This country is in need of fixing and healing and I believe Gore and Clark can do that.

[Crunchy Frog]

20. Unelectable.

Sorry, but it's what I think. The only people who will be going out to the polls in droves will be the ones who have been conditioned to see Hillary as next to Satan.

[zulchzulu]

21. It would ruin Obama's chances to be prez in 2016

Let it be known that there is NO WAY Hillary will make it past Super Tuesday in the 2008 Primaries in the first place. Secondly, if she did somehow get the nomination, the Repugs (and others) would come out in droves to vote against her. And she would lose...

Obama agreeing to be VP candidate and second fiddle to Hillary would be a very bad career move on a couple levels. He would denigrate his future as a frontrunner after the next President serves out his two terms and retires in Massachusetts. And being tagged with Hillary would pretty much send him into political oblivion...

[NoSheep]

22. I can get behind Obama for pres. Can someone tell me why Hillary is

so popular? I live in a very liberal environment and no one here can stand her. We are stymied that her candidacy is even discussed. Are we missing something here? I know this sounds a bit "duh", but we just don't get it.

[rwenos]

23. How Do You Spell

President McCain?

Hillary is poison. I love her, but she's poison. Do we Dem's have a death wish? Or is all that rw funding putting Hillary where she is.

[NoSheep]

26. Ditto. I don't get it. Hillary really turns a lot of people off. She's not

"one of us" in my view. She seems a player and I don't want another player. I want a genius with a spine and a clear sense of their own vision.

[mitchum]

24. I see...Green

[lcordero2]

27. Nope

After so many years of being taken for granted; why will Blacks turn out?

Threatening to put a Sports Complex and displacing approximately 1,000 Black People in Brooklyn is not going to make friends.

The "Yassky" gambit made a lot of enemies.

It seems like a lot of Alton Maddox's predictions are becoming reality. I know now not to dismiss him as a "radical".

[pinto]

28. (OT) What's going on with your state's mid term election?

Any races going on? Any candidates of note?

[New Earth]

29. I do my very best not to. Yuck. eom

[New Earth]

32. hey you quit posting in my name

log out! lol

[immoderate]

30. Neither deserves it.

Hillary is not going to win. She has no integerity.

Obama? What has he ever said or done that would make him presidential? I'm willing to keep my mind open for him in the future. For now, he has no more credentials than any male model.

I'm OK with these people where they are. I'd happily vote for Gore or Kerry.

--IMM

[Norwood]

31. No thanks

I'm not a big Hillary fan and I think Obama needs a little more time. Then again the same could have been said about Edwards.

I'm still hoping for a Clark/Feingold ticket

[Sensitivity]

33. Clinton can't get the Black Vote? Are you crazy?

"Because for what it is worth, I believe that if Hillary wins the primary she will have to pick a minority VP to get the critical black record turnout she will need to win."

Now where did you get this from? A Clinton not able to get the black vote?
You have not heard that Clinton was the first Black president?

[niyad]

34. how about we get through THIS election cycle first?

[tkmorris]

36. Hillary thinks torture is ok in some cases

That did it for me.

Obama doesn't have enough of a record for me to back him at this time. Get back to me in 6 years or so.

[Vidar]

37. Who to vote for, Greens or Socialists?

[magellan]

38. I'll never vote for Hillary, I don't care if she runs with Jesus (nt)

[Tactical Progressive]

39. Hillary yes, Obama not at all

Hillary has it all, from temperment to experience to ability. She is so ready and so right at this time for a lot of reasons.

Obama needs at least another decade of experience before he even deserves consideration. He's a lightweight and it surprises me any time his name gets mentioned for a presidential ticket.

And as far as both of them together, that's just a lousy idea. Americans, sneering, mindless Neanderthals that they are, will have a hard enough time voting for a woman or a minority alone, let alone both at once.

[Skidmore]

40. I would consider Clark/Obama, Edwards/Obama; Clark/Edwards,

Edwards/Clark, Clark/Feingold, Feingold/Clark,Gore/Clark, or Clark/Gore. I do not support Hillary. As much as I want a woman to be President, I will not support her. In all of America, we have no people beyond the * or Clinton families able to hold the high offices of the land? We do not need our own dynasty. Let's get some fresh ideas and new faces out there.