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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 03:22 PM
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Nurse sues over ticket for anti-Bush bumper sticker
ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) -- A woman who was ticketed for having an obscene anti-Bush bumper sticker filed a lawsuit in federal court Monday against a county in the state of Georgia and its officials.

Denise Grier, 47, of Athens, Georgia, got a $100 ticket in March after a DeKalb County police officer spotted the bumper sticker, which read "I'm Tired Of All The BUSH**."

A DeKalb judge threw out the ticket in April because the state's lewd decal law that formed the basis for the ticket was ruled unconstitutional in 1990.

Grier is seeking damages from the county for "emotional distress," according to the lawsuit.

Grier also seeks a declaration in federal court that her bumper sticker is considered constitutionally protected speech because she is "uncertain and insecure regarding her right to display her bumper sticker in DeKalb County," the lawsuit said.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/10/16/sticker.suit.ap/index.html
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 03:27 PM
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1. You go Girl
If republicans were honest they'd tell you our kids are dying in Iraq to protect your rights to display that bumper sticker.

Imagine. A republican being honest.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 03:28 PM
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2. Good. That case was so blatant that the cop
should have been fired for abusing his position and for harassment.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:19 PM
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16. Un-american pinko queer
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:36 PM
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18. And damned proud of it, Freeper!
:)
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:37 PM
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20. Freeper TROLL, dammit!
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:38 PM
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21. Oh, exCUSE me. Freeper Troll!
:eyes:







:)
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:41 PM
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23. Way better, thanks
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Donkeykick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 03:28 PM
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3. The ACLU...
is doing a fantastic job as usual. Good Luck to yah Grier!;-) :headbang:
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 03:45 PM
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7. Yup. Makes me proud that I just signed up.
Way to go!!!
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:40 PM
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22. Everyone who can afford it should donate to the ACLU!
They are a great organization. The US would be in far worse shape than it is if not for them. Can you imagine how bad that might have been?
:scared:
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swimboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 01:29 PM
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43. I've got my card!
I'm proud to carry it!
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:26 AM
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37. You bet--I just renewed my membership
Long live the ACLU!
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 03:31 PM
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4. Damn right she should sue- that law was thrown out SIXTEEN YEARS ago!
Given that, this seems like a pretty clear case
of her being singled out for opinion-based mistreatment,
issued a ticket for LEGALLY expressing her opinion.
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Red Right and BLUE Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 03:38 PM
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5. Go Denise!!!! nt
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SCantiGOP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 03:39 PM
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6. SC still has the law on the books
and they have one for 'family friendly' Myrtle Beach that you can ticket people for obscene t-shirts. Neither would stand up to a court challenge, but most people don't have what it takes to stand up to the system.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 01:40 PM
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44. RUSTY, er, Strom Jr!!!
:hi:

I live in DeKalb County.

think I should take my "Democratic Underground" bumpersticker off my truck?

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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 04:02 PM
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8. When did bushit become a dirty word?
There was absolutely nothing right about this case. Is "mishit" banned from stickers too? How about pissant? How about this is beyond stupid?
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 04:31 PM
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9. Don't...I repeat...don't
piss the Nurses off. We just don't give a shit anymore. (or as we like to say-We're here to save your ass, not kiss it).
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 04:32 PM
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10. Emotional distress my eye...someone's lawyer is looking to buy a car
i'm a lawyer, i can say that. "insecure regarding her right to display a bumper sticker in DeKalb County"...that's stretching.
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 04:46 PM
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12. That ticket loses on all counts though.
Willful

malicious

Damages incurred. She had to appear in court.

Her state of mind will be up to the judge to decide. Punitive damages should not be out of the question. The cop didn't even know the law. And the sticker didn't even spell any known form of profanity.

Ten to one, the cop was a puke.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 04:47 PM
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13. How do you know whether or not she had emotional distress?
The comment about the attorney is pure conjecture and Red Herring to the issue. I think her case has merit, concerning free speech and her right to travel on public roads without impediment.

AND, you don't have to be a lawyer to make jaded and cynical comments. I make them all the time. :D

AND, on the other hand, you might be right about the attorney's modus operandi. ;)

I think the arresting officer should be fined $100.00, pay for court costs, suspended without pay for two weeks in order to take an 80 hour seminar on the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and then be required to teach a few civics classes at local elementary/middle schools throughout the semester.



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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 04:51 PM
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14. She won the meritorious case...the ticket was dismissed.
The ED claim (and this is only based on the article, i have no first-hand knowledge of this) sounds like total B.S.
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 08:24 PM
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32. You don't think someone would feel emotional distress..............
Edited on Mon Oct-16-06 08:35 PM by Kingshakabobo
......from being stopped, questioned and dragged in to court for their constitutionally protected free speech?....and charged with violation of a law that didn't even exist????

Wow. Authoritarian personality much?

Your f--king right I would be pissed. Yes, that counts too.

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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:10 AM
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39. I have to disagree.
I was party to a civil suit that was frivolous and ultimately dropped. Yet I went through six months of sheer hell losing sleep over the damned nuisance. I cannot imagine how I would have felt in a criminal proceeding, no matter how small.

It also is irrelevant the matter was dropped or ruled in her favor. The idea of being stopped, harrassed and ticketed because of one of my bumper stickers is chilling, and I didn't even experience it directly! I think she makes a good point and it's an issue that needs to be publicized. Not just for Dekalb County, but all over our country.

I don't think the woman needs to win a multi-million dollar settlement by any means, but no one will ever convince me she did not experience emotional distress. I can't imagine people who respect our civil liberties reading the story and not feeling their own twinges. Especially when we consider what may be on the bumpers of our own cars.
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 04:39 PM
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11. So proud of her!
:)
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:36 PM
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19. So am I. These right-wing Georgia cops do anything
to harass you if they know you are a Democrat. I live in a totally red county in North Georgia. During the Presidential election, I had Kerry/Edwards and MoveOn.org bumper stickers on my car. One day, a Cherokee County policeman got behind my car and followed me almost to my house. I know he was just trying to intimidate me.
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:26 AM
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40. Wow. I thought they just did that out in Newton County.
I've had more things shouted at me than I can recall. I've had obscene finger gestures and trash thrown at my car - just because of my bumper stickers.

Real "compassionate conservatives" we've got here.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:16 PM
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15. awesome
do it while you still can in the land of the free
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 05:21 PM
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17. that (assuming here) GOP cop who gave her the ticket must not have
had anything better to do that day.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:53 PM
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24. If they are coming after nurses then this story might make sense.
My husband is an R.N. and was on his way home at 1:00 in the morning. He had a Bryan Kennedy sticker on it. He is running against Sennsenbrenner. Cops gave him three breath test, and had a drug specialist test him. You will think this is crazy but the specialist for drug testing told my husband that his tongue looked green and it was a sign that he smoked pot. Then they took blood work from him because they couldn't determine what drug they could claim he was OWI with. They booked him for over three hours. I asked the chief what his rights were. The chief said he had none. I they searched his car after they arrested him, and seized his prescription drugs. I couldn't find him, and went outside,and saw his car at the end of a very long drive way. I thought the worst,and called the police to report a missing person. That is when the dispatcher gave me to her sergent who told me they had arrested my husband. I asked for what and he said he couldn't tell me. I had a friend who is an attorney call the dept. and that is when the police came out and talked to me in the lobby. Very distressing.

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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:56 PM
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25. where is wisco was this?
and what was their reason for pulling him over in the first place?

that sounds like fucking insanity...maybe you guys should have a lawsuit brewing too
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 08:08 PM
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27. Waukesha. Home of Homeland Security.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 08:12 PM
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30. Forgot to answer your question as to why they pulled him over.
He was driving a car with a dent in it. Police wanted to know if he was in a accident. He said he wasn't. It went from there. Before it was over he was issued two tickets. Reckless driving,and OWI. I asked police chief what assurance I had that the blood work would not be tampered with, and he assured me that they sealed it in front of my husband.
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 08:14 PM
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31. ahh waukesha...now it makes more sense
but that's still batshit insane.

i hope those officers are held accountable
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:57 PM
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26. Fighting the good fight! Rawk-on Denise Grier!
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 08:09 PM
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28. CNN is being ridiculous by not writng "Bushit."
Like visitors to CNN.com would clutch their pearls in horror at the sight of the word "Bushit."
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:50 PM
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33. I agree. Perhaps they're afraid
of getting a ticket... :)
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 11:34 PM
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34. I thought it said BULLSHIT!!
:rofl:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 08:12 PM
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29. Thread on my trip to Atlanta this weekend and response to my stickers >>>>
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 11:44 PM
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35. BUSH**? I think you mean BUSHIT?
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jarnocan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:52 AM
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38. No BU**SH** Zone is the name of my blog and I use BU**SH**
on signs all the time.
He's coming to GREENSBORO tomorrow, and I'm passing out these post cards and other info.
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followthemoney Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 11:48 PM
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36. Time to call in the army...I hear they always protect our freedom...NOT.
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brg5001 Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 12:46 PM
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41. DeKalb is a blue county in a red state: Glad the judge tossed the ticket
Very surprised that she would be cited in DeKalb, Georgia's most diverse county and one of two counties housing the City of Atlanta. As a former DeKalb resident, I'm floored that she was ticketed in the first place but I guess it shows that the DeKalb County Police are as capable of f*&%ed priorities as police anywhere. I have no doubt that a DeKalb County jury will find in her favor.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 01:07 PM
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42. Maybe (( *ushit )) would be less offensive. Bush is a 4 letter word.


:spank:


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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 08:02 AM
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45. Standing up for freedom of speech and police state tactics goes
to the heart of what being a Democrat is all about. Make them pay and they will not do it again or try to harass other law-abiding citizens that are not breaking any laws, real or imagined. Fuck this cop who should have far more important duties than being concerned about a bumper sticker,isn't this yahoo a first responder in our dire war on terror? Who or what would have been harmed if the cop had used some common sense and ignored an offensive bummer sticker just like we all do every day, more authiorty than brains to administer it. This kind of nit-wit behavior wastes far more tax dollars every day in tying up courts and disrupting people's lives than this law-suit besides chipping away at our increasingly restricted freedoms.
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