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133724 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 09:24 PM
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What a POS: AP Exclusive: Reid Got $1M in Land Sale
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=2555635

According to this article Harry Reid "sold" property to a partnership. and reaped a "windfall".

In 2001, Reid sold the land for the same price to a limited liability corporation created by Brown. The senator didn't disclose the sale on his annual public ethics report or tell Congress he had any stake in Brown's company. He continued to report to Congress that he personally owned the land.

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After getting local officials to rezone the property for a shopping center, Brown's company sold the land in 2004 to other developers and Reid took $1.1 million of the proceeds, nearly tripling the senator's investment. Reid reported it to Congress as a personal land sale.

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The senator's aides said no money changed hands in 2001 and that Reid instead got an ownership stake in Brown's company equal to the value of his land. Reid continued to pay taxes on the land and didn't disclose the deal because he considered it a "technical transfer," they said.

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1)There is no such thing as a "technical transfer" this is an ABC opinion and not a fact.

2)According to Title 26 of the US Code (the part dealing with Income taxes). A transfer of property to a partnership (or in the case an LLC) for a partnership interest is a non-taxable event. No gain or loss is recognized on the transfer, and, there is no tax consequence; until the partnership sells it. Any one can transfer money, property, intellectual property etc to a partnership for a partnership interest with no tax consequences.

3)Also according the the US Code if that same property is sold with in 7 years all of the income would go to Reid. He would be taxed on the entire income from the sale of the property. This is not an option on his part, nor on the part of the partnership this is a legal requirement by the US Tax Code. This is done to avoid a scenario where an individual transfers property which paid $400000 for 5 years ago and is now worth $1100000 to a partnership of 7 people. in that situation the gain on the sale of the property would be $1100000-$400000 or $700000 each partner would be taxed on $100000 of income. The partner who contributed the property however could walk off with the $700000 in cash (like the republicans do)

4)If harry Reid said he paid his taxes on the sale then he would have paid the taxes on the entire $700000.

On first blush this is an entirely legitimate transaction....

If you want cites to the code I can provide the but it is a bit "technical" in trying to understand them.

As an aside I am a CPA and have been doing this stuff for some time. I do not know however if any disclosure requirements were violated with respect to campaign laws related to pols.

But this shouldn't be a problem except for RW Liars.....






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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 09:26 PM
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1. Okay so it's unethical for a Democrat to sell property at a profit?
At the same time, Republicans can sell our soldiers lives and limbs for billions to KB&R. Okay....makes sense to me.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 09:27 PM
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2. thank you very much
This will help us understand and refute the attacks on Reid. Of course we all remember how much the GOP made of a previous land sale. It ended up costing the taxpayers millions of dollars to find NOTHING wrong.
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133724 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 09:30 PM
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4. You are welcome.
Reid was required By Law to be assigned all profits from the sale by the partnership...
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 09:29 PM
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3. They brought up the Ted Kennedy thing again.
Is there no low for these people?
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 09:34 PM
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5. DIFFERENCE IS
The whole transaction was reported to the Ethics Committee in the Congress. I don't understand, the ins and outs, but I do know that it was above board, because Reid had it all laid out to the Committee. He did not hide anything. So the republican dirt digging didn't dig the right dirt. But that makes no difference to the republicans if they can lie about something all the better for them.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 09:36 PM
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6. Isn't Solomon the AP hack who tried to make hay over boxing tickets?
Everyone's running with this -it's on the CBS site, too. :grr:
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133724 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 10:23 PM
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7. Since this may be getting some small legs....
Internal Revenue Code

Code Sec. 721. Nonrecognition of gain or loss on contribution

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(a) GENERAL RULE

No gain or loss shall be recognized to a partnership or to any of its
partners in the case of a contribution of property to the partnership in
exchange for an interest in the partnership.



Code Sec. 704. Partner's distributive share

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c) CONTRIBUTED PROPERTY

(1) IN GENERAL

Under regulations prescribed by the Secretary--

(A) income, gain, loss, and deduction with respect to property
contributed to the partnership by a partner shall be shared
among the partners so as to take account of the variation
between the basis of the property to the partnership and its
fair market value at the time of contribution,

(B) if any property so contributed is distributed (directly or
indirectly) by the partnership (other than to the contributing
partner) within 7 years of being contributed --

(i) the contributing partner shall be treated as
recognizing gain or loss
(as the case may be) from the sale
of such property in an amount equal to the gain or loss
which would have been allocated to such partner under
subparagraph (A) by reason of the variation described in
subparagraph (A) if the property had been sold at its fair
market value at the time of the distribution,

(ii) the character of such gain or loss shall be determined
by reference to the character of the gain or loss which
would have resulted if such property had been sold by the
partnership to the distributee, and

(iii) appropriate adjustments shall be made to the adjusted
basis of the contributing partner's interest in the
partnership and to the adjusted basis of the property
distributed to reflect any gain or loss recognized under
this subparagraph,

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As I posted earlier. Since the property was sold within 7 years all of the gain on the sale is Harrys by act of law

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