After W's admissions yesterday, why isn't the White House in flames?

[Philosoraptor]

Just a rhetorical question about yesterday's bizarre bush press conference in which he admits we went to war based on his lies about WMD's and suggestions that Iraq attacked us on nine eleven.

Why exactly is this not even registering on the radar or causing riots in the streets across the land? The man who claims to be president, said Iraq had nothing to do with nine eleven and acted as if it was no big deal, and seemed to be o.k. with the fact that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

He seemed to just agree that yes, it was all lies and it was all for nothing and all those people died for nothing and that seersucker suit you're wearing is just too too tacky eh eh eh eh eh.

WHAT THE FUCK AMERICA? Are you all on crack or what the fuck? Did you hear the president say that shit yesterday? My God, wake the fuck up out there!

[hatrack]

1. Ever see the movie "Seven"? There's a very appropriate quote in it.

To paraphrase Morgan Freeman's line, "People don't want democracy. People want to eat cheeseburgers, play the Lotto and watch television."

[acmavm]

3. Yes, I love that movie. And why are people that way? Because

democracy takes 'work'.

America today is taking for granted something that people have been fighting and dying over, first to get and then to preserve, for over 230 years. (Unfortunately, somewhere around the turn of the 19th century it turned into an oligarchy, but the facade of a democracy was still there.)

[Xenotime]

34. Exactly. People are too worried about the next American Idol...

or who is having the Best Week Ever. They just want the shit to wash over them while they sit on their couches watching their new big screen TVs.

[Brian Stevens]

40. Hey! What's wrong with eating cheeseburgers?

:rofl:

[jedicord]

2. Because all they heard was the war was bad for their psyche.

So they went out to check on their bicycle to see if it was OK.

[hippiechick]

4. Because, as one local idiot put it in an op ed ...

"You'd vote for Clinton again over Bush because you're mad about the war and gas prices ? Ever hear of ADULTERY IN THE OVAL OFFICE?"


:wtf: Some people are just too fixated on other people's sex lives to be able to see REAL problems when they slap 'em in the face.

[peekaloo]

7. reality is

too much for them to swallow. :evilgrin:

[hippiechick]

8. Heh. You said swallow.

Heh. :evilgrin: :rofl:

[Ravenseye]

25. You could

come to that conclusion. :evilgrin:

[conflictgirl]

41. OMG, that level of idiocy is astounding!

Don't have sex, just kill!

:wtf:

[peekaloo]

5. I guess only the 50% who knew that are the only ones listening.

did the corporate media comment about this on last night's broadcasts?

[AlinPA]

9. I sense that people have tuned out the Iraq "war".

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[The2ndWheel]

10. America is too big a place

You want that kind of democracy, break this thing up. Other than that, people have their own things to do. We're a specialized society, elect our selected options, and stick them thousands of miles away to deal with problems like this. People have enough problems getting through the day, let alone to worry about this. This is what the think tanks are for.

The reason "the people" don't wake up is specialization. Yeah, polls here and there show a lack of support for the war, and for whatever else comes along. But what is there to do about it? They can't walk into Congress and change it. They can call their representative, but it's just one of an average of hundreds of thousands of voices. Yes, if they all voiced their exact same opinion, maybe someone would listen. Again, people have things to do. This is what organizations far away from you such as MoveOn are for. Hell, your average Joe can barely run for office without looking and sounding like a dumbass. I know, Bush is a dumbass, and look at him. You know what I mean, the money is takes to run.

This isn't 1776. These aren't 13 colonies where only a few people had any rights. This is a global superpower with 50 states(some of which have larger economies than other nations) and 300 million people, all being trained in one specific are of life, leaving other parts to someone else to look after.

[leesa]

19. Americans are self-absorbed and lazy, far as I can tell. They got

shopping to do, and, by God, that soccer game is more important than anything on earth.

[xchrom]

11. i thought the same after the 00 election.

the public might return the democratic party to power -- which means a good number of genuine liberals and progressives gain a great deal of influence.

but when i think of who they have to govern....

[Philosoraptor]

12. they'd have burned it down 5 times had it been a Dem president

With all the shit that's gone down in the last 6 years, but yesterday's confession to war crimes in public as if he were announcing dinner and the crickets chirping afterwards just sent me over the edge of reality.

am i dreaming all this?

[xchrom]

15. you're not dreaming -- and the reality of the character of

the american people is breath taking to say the least.

i will always maintain bush is a direct reflection of the people we live with on a day to day basis -- and it's time to really THINK about that.

see this thread -- while there is good news here -- there is still support for bush that just stuns me.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2792597

[FormerDem06]

17. The bad thing is...

that as soon as the progressives finally do get back in power, K-Street will get after them, and they will forget about all of us too (although not as blatantly or as much as the other side of the aisle has over the past six years).

[xchrom]

20. oh yes -- k-street will be all over what ever program they cook up

to subvert them.

[DemonFighterLives]

13. 911 is just a code word now to instill revenge

Ossie doesn't matter any more; dubbie has his new war on terror that covers all.
Anything that comes up, he plays the "terror" card and everybody looks for their poly and duct tape and throws away their liquids. Kind of an hypnotic state.
:argh:

[DemReadingDU]

14. People are doing their own thing

They are too busy to pay attention. They rely on others for their news who listen to Rush Limbaugh to tell them.

[elehhhhna]

16. The still-Reeps I know are all DRUNK by the time the news comes on.

[redqueen]

18. Because he didn't admit to lies about WMD's.

Not really a bombshell, was it?

[quiet.american]

21. Because the headlines read, "Bush Says Leaving Iraq Would Be 'Disaster' "

Predictably, there was nary an MSM headline peep along the lines of "Bush Admits Iraq Had 'Nothing' To Do with 9/11"; "Bush Casually Says Iraq Had 'Nothing' To Do With 9/11," etc.

You know, I work for an extremely (non-political) progressive organization, and even here, no one even knows there was a press conference, no one knows he said that, no one has a clue. People just don't feel like paying attention.

[bdamomma]

22. peoples' ignorance is bliss in the country.

makes me want to :puke:

[formercia]

23. Stage 4 presidency.

Nothing like a deathbed redemption.

[meganmonkey]

24. What are you doing about it...

aside from posting on a discussion board?

I mean this as a sincere question, not a snark. And I address it not just to the OP, but all the people who think the rest of America is clueless or apathetic - what are you REALLY doing about it? We all need to ask ourselves this question.

[malaise]

26. Apparently what Karr had

for breakfast is way more important.

[tblue37]

27. Is there a link to a transcript of his comments?

I am visiting relatives in September who believe that WMDs were found in Iraq and that Saddam was connected to 9/11. They don't believe me when I say that even Bush has admitted that is not true.

But I am nearly deaf, so I don't watch much TV at all. I didn't see his news conference--or whatever it was--where he said those things yesterday.

I would love to print off a transcript of his words to prove to them that he admits there were no WMDs in Iraq and that Saddam wasn't invovled in 9/11.

[grasswire]

28. go to the White House web site

http://www.whitehouse.gov

You'll find an official transcript there.

[tblue37]

32. Thanks. (eom)

[nashville_brook]

31. link to Democracy Now ---

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/22/1421212

AMY GOODMAN: On Monday, Present Bush admitted the Iraq war is "straining the psyche of our country," but he vowed to stay the course. A reporter questioned him about why he opposed withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq.

REPORTER: A lot of the consequences you mentioned for pulling out seem like maybe they never would have been there if we hadn't gone in. How do you square all of that?

PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH: I square it, because -- imagine a world in which you had Saddam Hussein who had the capacity to make a weapon of mass destruction, who was paying suiciders to kill innocent life, who would -- who had relations with Zarqawi. Imagine what the world would be like with him in power. The idea is to try to help change the Middle East.

Now, look, I didn’t -- part of the reason we went into Iraq was -- the main reason we went into Iraq at the time was we thought he had weapons of mass destruction. It turns out he didn't, but he had the capacity to make weapons of mass destruction. But I also talked about the human suffering in Iraq, and I also talked the need to advance a freedom agenda. And so my question -- my answer to your question is, is that -- imagine a world in which Saddam Hussein was there, stirring up even more trouble in a part of the world that had so much resentment and so much hatred that people came and killed 3,000 of our citizens.

You know, I've heard this theory about, you know, everything was just fine until we arrived, and then, you know, kind of that we're going to stir up the hornet's nest theory. It just -- just doesn't hold water, as far as I'm concerned. The terrorists attacked us and killed 3,000 of our citizens before we started the freedom agenda in the Middle East.

REPORTER: What did Iraq have to do with that?

PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH: What did Iraq have to do with what?

REPORTER: The attack on the World Trade Center?

PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH: Nothing, except for it's part of -- and nobody has ever suggested in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered the attack. Iraq was a -- Iraq -- the lesson of September the 11th is, take threats before they fully materialize, Ken. Nobody has ever suggested that the attacks of September the 11th were ordered by Iraq.

AMY GOODMAN: President Bush at his news conference yesterday.

[mascale]

35. See! Anyone Has To Conclude That He Thinks He Won!

Where before there was a Socialist, Baathist, Sunni buffer between the Shia of Hezbollah and the Shia of Iran: Now they can unite and raise hell with anyhone they want to, and possibly drag Saudi Arabia and the Kuwatis along with them. Then all the oil will go to China and both America and Israel will be more secure(?): And apparently all thanks to North Korea(?).

Anyone has to give Bush a break. It was his news conference. Not only does President USA think he won, Iran itself doesn't see that it's coming off the loser either: Just like the now famous Senator Joe Lieberman.

August 31, UN deadlline day for Iran. Just another day in Iran, just like in New Haven, and clearly just like in Washington, D. C.

[nashville_brook]

36. and welcome to DU... giver of breaks to *

[gatorboy]

29. Oh, that's EASY!

[nashville_brook]

30. i JUST heard his words on DemocracyNow -- thought it was

an actor doing a REAL good imitation of him. not only did he meltdown -- he melted-down by way of spewing forth some "truth." not much -- just enough to convey that "he don't need to stinkin' truth."

bizarre.

and hey! i'm unemployed. LETS BREAK SHIT!

[Tesha]

33. As long as the beer's cold and the TV's on...

As long as the beer's cold and the TV's on, America will
*NEVER* rise up off their couches to do anything.

Tesha

[earth mom]

37. People are way too comfy, that's why they're so self absorbed.

Give em a Great Depression Part 2 or another Draft and you will see all of em wake up and go berserk . Until then, chimpy will push everything to the limit including finding a way to become King George. :puke:

[wishlist]

38. He emphasized that oil profits would fall into the wrong hands if we leave

For once he showed some honesty by expressing concern that control of oil profits would be lost if U.S. pulls out of Iraq, but of course media never picks up on any of his incriminating admissions. I have no doubt that a huge motivation for his decision to invade was that he couldn't stand Saddam's control over Iraqi oil profits.

[mascale]

43. What The Media Missed Bigger Is Who Has Oil Profits Now

Shia Iran is Oil producer number 2, even now. Iran is allied with increasingly more popular and world prestigious Hezbollah, increasingly influential in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia and in oil producing nations planet-wide. Bush has installed Shia democracy on the oil reserves of Iraq. Venezuela with oil is more likely to be friendly with anti-US nations sending oil off to Asia than it is with any nation sending oil off to the United States.

By comparison, China is a planet unto itself. By comparison, China and North Korea can provide the oil-rich nations the "technology" they so very recently crave even in definance of the United Nations.

Even General Motors wanted at one time to sell 200 mil. cars to the mainland Chinese.

What exactly do the oil-producing nations have to gain by doing business all the time with the United States.

What they have learned from the Republicans is, "Absolutely Nothing." In fact America intends to invade them and kill their babies.

And so far mainly Hezbollah has scored the most apparent victory in warding the murderers certain of the children of the world: Away from their nation, and under the protection of the assembled United Nations.

[Nikki Stone 1]

39. It's beyond most people's mental abilities. Oral sex is easier to grasp

than being lied into a war.

[indepat]

42. Amerikans are on ideological crack and eaten up with religiosity