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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:00 PM
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An open letter from an Israeli citizen
This letter was written by Julia Chaitan, a former visiting professor at Nova State University in Broward County. She lives in a Kibbutz in the Negev desert in southern Israel near Gaza and has 2 children currently serving in the IDF.


Dear all

How to put into words what this war is doing to us?

The things that I have dreaded most are happening. The war goes on but its purpose becomes more and more unclear. The war is demanding too much of us, leaving us full of anxiety, and yet with such a feeling of emptiness and loss. It is taking away our lives and our children's lives. It is physically destroying our homes and our communities. It has turned approximately half a million Lebanese and 300,000 Israelis into refugees as they do what they can to escape the bombs and look for safer ground.

In 20 days, it has managed to build massive walls of hate that will take generations to bring down.

Does anyone remember how THIS war began? Two soldiers - Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev - were abducted from within Israel, under a barrage of katushot fired by the Hizbollah in Lebanon. Nasrallah announced that the Hizbollah had kidnapped them in order to negotiate a prisoner exchange with Israel. We were told that the war began in order to get these soldiers back. Then we were told that we were at war in order to push the Hizbollah out of southern Lebanon for once and for all. And then we were told that we need to bomb civilian areas in Beirut and, yesterday, in Kfar Qana, because that is how the Hizbollah operates - they hide themselves within civilian populations and wage their war against us from there. We are told that the IAF is sorry for the loss of innocent lives in Kfar Qana. We are told that Olmert expresses "deep regret" for the loss of innocent lives. We are told that it was a mistake, but that in a day or two people will forget since the media will be showing us new pictures of horror, to take our minds off the 'old' ones.

Yesterday, 140 rockets were shelled into northern Israel. Every day, between 60 - 150 rockets fall in the north - on Kiryat Shmona, on Acco, on Haifa, on Tiberias, on Nazreth, etc etc. On Friday, one rocket hit the hospital in Nahariya and on Saturday one of the rockets hit the hospital in Haifa. Israelis who haven't fled from the north are living in bomb shelters and safe rooms. Israelis who haven't left are, for the most part, the elderly and the poor, those who do not have anywhere to go, or any money or way to get there, if they had somewhere to go.

On Saturday evening, I participated in a demonstration against the war and for negotiations in Tel Aviv, that had been organized by Women against War. I went, though I wasn't completely comfortable with my decision to go. On the one hand, we have every right to defend ourselves. When someone is out to kill you, you have the right and the responsibility to protect yourself. So, this is a just war. On the other hand, I cannot understand how the displacing of so many Lebanese people and the destruction of so much of Lebanon and the killing of so many Lebanese innocent people accomplishes this. And so, so much of this war is unjust. Killing their innocents in order to protect our innocents doesn't make sense. It is neither moral nor logical. As I walked with the other demonstrators and called out the slogans: "In Beirut and in the North, children want to live (this rhymes in Hebrew); :War - no! Peace - yes!"; "War is not the solution - leave Lebanon immediately" (another slogan that rhymes in Hebrew), I felt both guilty and not guilty about my participation. I felt right about demonstrating since this killing has got to stop; I felt guilty about demonstrating since our children - Daniel, Eyahl Omer, Amir, Yoav, Yaniv, Nadav, and others - are putting themselves in danger in order to protect us.

I am told that there is no other way to fight the Hizbollah. That there is no other way to fight a terrorist organization that strikes from within civilian populations. I am also told that we need to continue on with this war since this is the only way we will be able to get to a meaningful ceasefire. But where do we draw the line between justly fighting a terrorist organization and using terrorist tactics yourself? How can we say - it is wrong of you to kill our citizens but it is understandable and acceptable that we kill yours?

I wish I knew how to convince the decision makers - in Lebanon, in Syria, in Palestine and in Israel - that this war will only become another war in the long series if we do not sit down together at the negotiations table and work out a comprehensive peace agreement. I wonder how to get through to them that withdrawals - unilateral or bi-lateral - or ceasefires are useless if not accompanied by comprehensive negotiations that end in signed peace agreements. We withdrew from Lebanon 6 years ago and we withdrew from Gaza one year ago, but we know no peace since we did not sit down afterward to talk with our enemies. And it is with our enemies we must talk, with all the difficulties that this entails, for it is with them that we are at war and with them that we must find the way to peace.

I do not believe that we can negotiate with Hizbollah. They want our destruction and are not a partner for peace or even some kind of co-existence. But we can negotiate with Lebanon (if we leave anything left in that country) and we can negotiate with Syria, and we can negotiate with the Palestinians, just as we saw in the past that we could negotiate with Jordan and Egypt. We can do this with the help of the international community. We must believe that it is within our power to arrive at a workable plan that allows us all to live our lives without having to take the lives of the other. We need to believe that such agreements are not only important for the peace that they would bring with our neighbors, but also because they would ultimately ostracize organizations that preach and carry out terror.

There is extremely wide consensus for this war in Israel. People - some very close to me - are angry with me for speaking out against military actions taken in this war. They say my actions are stupid and that I am betraying my country. They call into question my love for my country and say that by publicly protesting I am supporting Nasrallah and making his job easier. They say this is not the time to demonstrate and protest, and that protests must wait until this war has ended. I only know how to express my love of my country by living here and speaking out against injustices by saying - I know we can do better. I know that we can.

For those who may be wondering - Gilad Shalit, the soldier who was kidnapped from within Israel near the border with Gaza, is still being held in captivity. And the war in Gaza is continuing. They shoot kassam rockets at us - today one hit a dining room in one of the kibbutzim, thankfully no one was harmed - and we fire our shells into them, and bomb them from the air. Every day we hear how many Palestinians were killed, how many wounded, if some of our soldiers were hurt, if some of our citizens were hurt when a kassam rocket hit. Our war in the north is making the international headlines, but the war in the south is no less silent.

Today I remembered an old peace saying - What if they held a war and nobody came?

Halevi - Oh that! - we could turn this vision into our reality.

Yours

Julia
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:05 PM
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1. More evidence that women worldwide need to be serious about a
"Lysistrata" moment -- women will have to take over, "by any means necessary," from the men, I think, if the violence and madness is to stop...
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:16 PM
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10. I agree
It's in the hands of the women, but not the ones like Condi Rice.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:46 PM
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23. I completely agree.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:07 PM
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2. it is painfully ironic, isn't it?
all the able bodied have left Haifa and Qan, and now an army and a terrorist group are trading blows at the weak, poor, aged and infirm. This is what war has come to, once again, killing those least able to defend themselves, on both sides.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:08 PM
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4. "But we told them to leave!"
But Nagin wouldn't use the busses.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:07 PM
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3. Sound familiar
We were told that the war began in order to get these soldiers back. Then we were told that we were at war in order to push the Hizbollah out of southern Lebanon for once and for all. And then we were told that we need to bomb civilian areas in Beirut and, yesterday, in Kfar Qana, because that is how the Hizbollah operates -

We were told Iraq had WMDs and the ability to deliver them.
Then, we were told they participated in 9/11.
Then, we were told that they WMD programs.
Then, we were told that they plans to have WMD programs.
Then, we were told we were bringing democracy to the middle east.
Then, we were told "he gassed his own people." Iraqis are better off without him.
Then, we were told we couldn't "cut and run."
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The Deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:11 PM
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6. I Was Just Going to Comment
That with a few different words this could easily be an American writing about Iraq.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:12 PM
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7. agreed.
the world is a messed up place right now, and I blame the neocons above all, because they are behind everyone, pulling their tawdry strings of hate and bloodshed.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:14 PM
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8. Eerily familiar
There is extremely wide consensus for this war in Israel. People - some very close to me - are angry with me for speaking out against military actions taken in this war. They say my actions are stupid and that I am betraying my country. They call into question my love for my country and say that by publicly protesting I am supporting Nasrallah and making his job easier. They say this is not the time to demonstrate and protest, and that protests must wait until this war has ended. I only know how to express my love of my country by living here and speaking out against injustices by saying - I know we can do better. I know that we can.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:20 PM
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11. I know
as I was reading that paragraph I was thinking, "Welcome to my world, Julia. Your neocons are just as bad as ours." :-(
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:15 PM
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9. And could easily leave one with the impression
that Israel doesn't really want to end Hezbollah. 'We have always been at war with Eurasia'
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:09 PM
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5. The Reality is a bit different than the propaganda.
For starters, Israel isn't defending itself.......it's engaging in a war of aggression, and has managed to take most of the water basins in the region. Israel is profligate with water, and tends to raze orchards in the process of building a wall that is twice the length of its actual border.

Secondly, the two soldiers abducted were on LEBANESE soil. Hizbollah didn't cross the border to get them at all......they came to Hizbollah, and they captured them. Quelle surprise. Of course, Israel makes no mention of the people they have abducted as bargaining chips either.

Sigh.

Never mind. It's not worth the argument.
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:23 PM
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12. I'll sigh along with you.
The complete divorce from reality that some cling to is quite disheartening.

One person at a time, though...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:29 PM
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13. Thanks for the reality check, PDJane.
:)
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daydreamer Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:51 PM
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14. Do you have a source? I like to have that.
Because we were told again and again that Hisb Allah crossed the border.
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breakaleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:05 PM
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16. You took the words out of my mouth.
It's difficult to debate this issue when it's clouded by half-truths, and slant and doesn't relay the facts accurately.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 05:20 PM
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25. I thought a Palestinian family got killed at the beach
and that started things.

But ultimately, I don't care who started it. I just care that it stops.
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ProgressiveCritic Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:04 PM
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15. There *is* another choice.
Israel could always opt to:

Withdraw from all territories occuped after 1967
Divide Jerusalem
Recognize and compensate refugees
Exchange all prisoners
Abandon dreams of "Greater Israel"

Israeli apologists frequently present their situation as though it arose in a vacuum... "why do they hate us"... "They want our destruction..." presenting Arab resistance as though it's mindless anti-semitism.

The issues that the Palestinians have are REAL, as are the issues of Hezbollah.

No matter how much angst the author suffers, if she doesn't believe that Israel can negotiate (really negotiate, not just mouth all the proper phrases on one hand, while simultaneously creating facts to the contrary on the ground...) with Hezbollah, then it really is hopeless isn't it?

Both sides have an awesome capacity for suffering. I wonder who will be the last left standing?
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breakaleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:10 PM
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17. This is the only answer to this conflict.
Now we just need someone to convice Israel of this. They have the ability to get the peace they claim to want.
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winter999 Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:44 PM
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22. Israel? What about Hezbollah? Hamas?
It takes two to tango.
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ProgressiveCritic Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:29 PM
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24. Did you read Haniyeh's Op-Ed in the WaPo?
I think there is a clear openness to negotiating on the part of Hamas.

The key is that recognition of Israel will not be step one, but that which Hamas will "give" as part of negotiations.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/10/AR2006071001108.html

...But there is a remedy, and while it is not easy it is consistent with our long-held beliefs. Palestinian priorities include recognition of the core dispute over the land of historical Palestine and the rights of all its people; resolution of the refugee issue from 1948; reclaiming all lands occupied in 1967; and stopping Israeli attacks, assassinations and military expansion. Contrary to popular depictions of the crisis in the American media, the dispute is not only about Gaza and the West Bank; it is a wider national conflict that can be resolved only by addressing the full dimensions of Palestinian national rights in an integrated manner. This means statehood for the West Bank and Gaza, a capital in Arab East Jerusalem, and resolving the 1948 Palestinian refugee issue fairly, on the basis of international legitimacy and established law. Meaningful negotiations with a non-expansionist, law-abiding Israel can proceed only after this tremendous labor has begun....

Of course Israel-apologists will come up with a million reasons why recognition must come first, but is that really reasonable? Isn't recognizing Israel really the only bargaining chip the Palestinians have?

Recognizing Israel at the outset was the mistake the PLO made in the 90's. They'd be fools to do it again.

And doesn't it make most sense for Israel to negotiate with the party that has power to make or break the peace process?

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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:14 PM
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20. ProgressiveCritic...what you said!!! Welcome to DU!
Thanks for joining the debate here. Sounds as though yours is a fair and informed voice of reason.

:hi:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:21 PM
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21. At some point they will negotiate. Even if it's over who owns the rubble.
But, as you said, both sides have an awesome capacity for suffering, and the "leaders" on both sides seem to have an even greater capacity for indifference to it.
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 09:02 PM
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26. What are the issues of Hezbollah which are 'real' as you say?
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:10 PM
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18. I admire Julia's courage and wisdom. K&R
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:11 PM
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19. I'm grateful to you, RIM
for posting this. :cry::cry::cry:
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