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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 06:03 PM
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Tucker Carlson was just smoked by a guy from the SPLC
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 06:11 PM by joemurphy
That's the Southern Poverty Law Center. They just issued a report about growing problems with Right Wing hate groups in the U.S. Military. Naturally, Tucker Carlson invited one of their spokesmen on and tried to attack the SPLC as having no evidence for its conclusions. The guy then just blew him away with fact after fact.

Tucker then attacked the SPLC for trying to unfairly smear the U.S. Military, which the guy from the SPLC adroitly denied, making Tucker look very bad in the process.

Tucker then claimed that Militant Islam was a problem in the U.S. Military (citing a fragging incident and the sniper John Muhammed as examples) and demanded to know why the SPLC wasn't reporting on this. The guy responded that the SPLC had, in fact, issued a report on it and had turned it over to the military. Tucker looked bad again.

If this is Carlson in action in his new timeslot, MSNBC ought to rethink bigtime.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 06:06 PM
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1. 6 weeks
I posted in another thread I give him 6 weeks and he will be gone.

He is truly a one trick pony whose time is fading fast.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 06:07 PM
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2. one-trick pony? That implies that he had at least one trick
no-trick pony is more like it
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 06:52 PM
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15. no no, the bow tie
got to give him credit. Far as I know he is the last guy who isn't a black muslim to wear a bow tie so that's one trick at least. :-)
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unda cova brutha Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 06:23 PM
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6. yeah, hes so gone
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 06:08 PM
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3. Don't mess with the SPLC.
That place truly knows how bad the right can be.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 06:12 PM
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4. Jaysus--you'd think MSRNC could afford some fact checkers
who would at least find out what the SPLC has been up to lately & give Schmucker a somewhat larger grasp on the person he's about to confront.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 08:50 PM
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18. They pay the pundits too much to pay for fact checkers. After
the body wrap, the facial peal, the manicure, the wardrobe, the bionic eyebrows and the make-up job, the pundits only have enough time to pick up the RNC talking points from the fax machine before "SHOW TIME."
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 06:19 PM
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5. I couldn't bring myself to watch him, so I turned to Lou and he
was talking about the horrible voting machine problems. Tucker makes me sick.
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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 06:34 PM
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11. I'm no fan of Lou Dobbs, but if this is what Carlson's show's.
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 07:31 PM by joemurphy
going to be like, Carlson isn't going to be around very long. Dobbs will kill him. Here's what I saw:

1. First a "debate" with an inarticulate Mexican in which Tucker took the position that illegal aliens sponge by getting free medical care. Tucker brightly suggested that we send the bills for this to Vicente Fox (This from the always erudite, original, and never pandering Carlson, who is now reduced to emulating Lou Dobbs and stealing Lou's standard immigrant bashing material)

2. Then an attack by Carlson on Fox News for allegedly running 7 or 8 Bulletins on an apartment explosion in NYC in the same hour. (Tucker accused Fox of pandering to a newsie need for big breaking stories)

3. Then a segue from Tucker about Larry King covering the exploding building story on CNN (With Tucker belatedly commending King for doing a pretty good job on the report after first slapping King by claiming that "people at CNN talk about him negatively behind his back" -- something Tucker said he "knows" to be true. Thanks for the info, Tucker!)

4. Then a follow-up rant by Tucker coming from nowhere that attacked Anderson Cooper for hypocrisy due to his supposedly first "posing as Edward R. Murrow during Hurricane Katrina" and now engaging in trivial reporting by asking a black comedian if the comic was going to watch "lost episodes" of his television program. Tucker likes to chuckle about interviews with black people. He likes to mention Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson whenever possible as if by invoking their names, "liberalism" (Tucker's big bugaboo) will be somehow cheapened and denegrated owing to their being a part of it.

5. Then followed Tucker's sad encounter with the guy from the SPLC.

So, once again we get to see what passes for big-time Cable-TV "journalism" is all about today.

Tucker's new thingie seems to be "Attack, Attack, Attack". He's doffed his bow-tie and donned a new image as a hard-hitting, pull no punches MSNBC would-be newsie pit bull.

Sadly, what he's really become is a pitiful hypocrite; a pathetic shill for some nameless network executive's latest idea to reinvigorate MSNBC's telejournalism. He should really just be axed and consigned to a special purgatory for failed newsies -- the sort of place where the Ashley Banfields of the world wind up -- like Court TV.

Unfortunately for us, Carlson seems to always rise anew from his previous failures -- like a strange type of TV phoenix-- remorphing every 6 months or so after abandoning old memes and supposedly adopting some "hot", "new",
and "controversial" newsie format. Invariably a new show rolls out and Carlson is touted now being in his element, pulling no punches, hitting hard, and swimming in a new milieu more in keeping with his always sparkling wit and his ever-incisive political commentary.

As viewers, we have to put up with Carlson's ever-reappearing efforts to package his putrescence night-in and night-out. It's either watch him or Lou Dobbs, I guess. Not much of a choice there to my mind.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 06:40 PM
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14. I'm no big fan of Lou either but lately he has been hammering
the voting machine thing and it was comforting to see him doing it tonight. Thanks for talking to me as not many here do.
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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 07:42 PM
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16. I'm all for a non-erasable paper trail.
Why don't people talk to you?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 06:26 PM
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7. SPLC....they have a dual role, I guess
They're also known as the Society for the Prevention of Lunatic Claims...!!

Gotta wonder which lunatics are doing Fucker's research for him. He might wanna sit down and do a little himself...!
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 06:29 PM
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8. Tucker is a legend in his own mind.
This guy has no credentials to expound on anything. Let me rephrase, he may expound, but there is no reason to think we will care.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 06:29 PM
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9. Bowtie-boy is an idiot. I hope he gets promoted to Floor 500...
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 06:37 PM by IanDB1
where the walls are made of gold.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Long_Game


And I'm going to donate to The SPLC again right NOW!

Make an Online Donation

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I think maybe I'll buy Tucker Carlson a gift membership, since I already have one of my own.


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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 06:30 PM
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10. He's really sucked since he lost the bowtie
nawwwww.. he's always sucked
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 06:35 PM
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12. He's not only an idiot, but he's also a pussy
He gets steamrollered by the most meek of guests.

I saw him once interviewing a teacher about a tolerance program. He'd ask stupid questions like, "But what if a student was a Christian and they blah blah blah," and the teacher said, "Of course."

And Tucker went, "Well, that's good. Okay, then." It was like he was confronted with someone who believed in fairness and he had nothing to attack!

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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 06:35 PM
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13. I guess the SPLC
won't be invited back by Tucker again.

Just so many ass whippin's Tucker can take.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 08:19 PM
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17. Who watches this show.??..and how did he get this timeslot??
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 08:53 PM
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19. they were my mom's favorite charity
when she passed away, we told people to donate to them in her honor. They are a great organization.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 08:55 PM
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20. None of those right-wingers EVER prepare for interviews.
Well, I should say- they never read up on the facts surrounding any of the issues they "cover". They prepare a few predictable attacks, but that's it.

It's the same reason they fall apart when a panel discussion isn't comprised of 2-4 conservatives attacking 1 liberal. They've simply never had to defend any of their positions with actual facts. It's always been stacked in their favor.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 09:09 PM
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21. K&R for the SPLC n/
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 09:59 PM
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22. When I tuned in right at the end
he was just trash-talking Alaska, something about the bridges to nowhere (which refuse to die) and the dog named Brinkley who's running for governor. :shrug:
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