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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:19 PM
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Stop calling it a WAR. It's not.
WE HAVE NEVER DECLARED WAR ON IRAQ.

It’s NOT a war. According to Wikipedia.org, we are participating in a “Military engagement authorized by Congress.” In reality, it’s an Occupation. Blowing up and invading an unarmed country is not “engaging in war” just because you call it that. Calling it a war is just a BushCo political trick that lends some kind of twisted validity to the senseless killing that continues in Iraq.

It has been proven that there was no centralized Iraqi plan to bring harm to America—no WMD’s and no military attack (or even resistance.) The escalating acts of hostility we are now seeing were borne of the smoke and shrapnel of the American Invasion. Our continuing presence is now the irritant that justifies our own occupation, and it’s costing us the lives of American troops.

Yet, BushCo continues to poke the hive and blame the bees.

Saddaam wasn’t allowed to surrender, even before we invaded. But with his capture and our military domination, the Iraqi government has allegedly been cleansed of evil do-ers and carefully restructured to live happily ever after in Democratic bliss. Ostensibly, Iraq now has a friendly Democratic government with no military threat and no brutal dictator. But with no more Boogey Man, who’s left to surrender? When is Mission really Accomplished?

As long as we occupy Iraq, our presence will generate enough Anti-American hostility and political instability to keep us there. The Iraq Occupation will be characterized by our troops trying to defend themselves from a nebulous, omnipresent hostility—-a no-win situation. Hard to find the Bad Guy when you don’t even know what he looks like.

Call it an Invasion. Call it an Occupation. Call it senseless. But don’t call it a war.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:22 PM
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1. I always have called it the Iraq
Massacre.
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Scribe Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:26 PM
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2. I just want to call it OFF
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Loge23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:26 PM
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3. Nor is the dictator's war on "terra"
The fool on the hill seems to relish in his self-pronounced title of "war president".
("I never actually fought in a war, but I played a commander-in-chief on TV).

There is no war - just a misbegotten misadventure by a deranged idiot that has devastated so many lives and so many families.
His "terra war" is just a hand out to his corporate friends.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:31 PM
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4. Busholini even called it an Occupation.
I heard the Silverspoon Sociopath say it on TV.
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tinfoil tiaras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:33 PM
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5. "Welcome to the occupation...."
Sorry. I'm having a moment. $5 (not really =P) to anyone who guesses who that song (the title of my post) is by...
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Loge23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:40 PM
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7. Gil Scott-Heron? (eom)
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tinfoil tiaras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 08:40 PM
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15. Nope sorry
Kay, I'll give yall a clue

-The band (not singer) that the song is by used to be really popular in the early 1990s. Also, they were on the Vote for Change Tour with Bruce Springsteen, The Dixie Chicks and more....and their drummer quit in 1997.
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tinfoil tiaras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 09:54 PM
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18. K, yall give up?
"Welcome to the Occupation" is a song by R.E.M. on their album Document. It's about Iran-Contra (i think). Go itunes it or Limewire it or whatever...
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:36 PM
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6. you are right.
iraq invaded iraq. he then proceeded to occupy it. he is still occupying it.

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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:45 PM
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8. Well, technically neither was Viet Nam...
...but tell that to the people in Iraq.
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Last Stand Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 09:38 PM
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17. I think they called it a "conflict"
tens of thousands dead and maimed in conflicts!?! WTF?

War is a euphemism for unjustified aggression.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:52 PM
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9. 9/11 was not an act of war either...
Edited on Mon Jun-26-06 07:52 PM by QuestionAll
it was a CRIME.

and so was the way the misadministration used it as a pre-text for an illegal invasion of iraq.
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misternormal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:53 PM
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10. More like "Police Action" if you ask me.... n/t
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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:59 PM
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11. I always called it the Iraq invasion.
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Freedom_Aflaim Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 08:01 PM
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12. If it walks like a Duck and Quakes like a duck
Edited on Mon Jun-26-06 08:03 PM by Freedom_Aflaim
Its a duck.

Playing word games with the war in Iraq does not change the horror or the wrongness of it. (not that you are trying to).

Its a war in all respects except for a piece of paper with the signature of a bunch white rich people who are profiting from it, irregardless of what we call it.

Its a war. Especially to those in who are in it.
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 08:39 PM
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14. I guess my point was that we shouldn't * allow the political advantage
of using the term WAR for his invasion. Many, many posters here call it war. If everyone referred to it as an invasion or occupation or something that described the atrocities without legitimizing it, then we might win the war of words.

BushCo always manipulates language to their advantage. We should too. In this case, we would simply be using a more honest, accurate term.
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Freedom_Aflaim Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 08:52 PM
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16. I know and I think you have the right idea
TO be honest with myself, I consider it a war, however your point of using language appropriately for honorable means is quite well taken.

Bushco and his handlers have tried to grab the moral highground with their language at every opportunity. While good people know that their "highground" is quite shaky, its still part of their marketing of the war.

I guess Im not quite convinced the using different terms is right path, but your heart is in the right place.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 08:02 PM
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13. I ALWAYS call it...
the Anglo-American Invasion of Iraq.

Pisses my personal freepers off!
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 02:04 AM
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19. To slightly paraphrase Will Rogers
Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 02:06 AM by Art_from_Ark
They say that there ain't no war there.

You say that there ain't no war there.

So there ain't no war...

But the guys getting shot at, say that it's the best imitation they've ever seen.
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