over 1000 metric tons of the deadly U238-isotope

[serryjw]

I am so sick
quote.........
The Bush regime has broken virtually every one of the Geneva Conventions. They have committed crimes for which there are not yet laws written. Crimes against the earth and the environment. His father before him was the first to use depleted uranium weapons, but the son, Dubya, has far exceeded the senior Bush, by spreading over 1000 metric tons of the deadly U238-isotope, America’s nuclear waste, over Iraq and Afghanistan, making childhood leukemia and spontaneous abortions commonplace, dooming the people of both countries to endless suffering and premature death. According to a UN Sub Commission report, cancer in Iraq has increased 1000%, and deformities 600%. Depleted Uranium has rendered Iraqi lands infertile, entered the food chain, and contaminated the ground water. With a half-life of 4.5 billion years the Uranium 238 dropped on Iraq and Afganistan by Bush and his father have rendered much of the two countries permanently unfit for human habitation.
end quote.....
It gets a lot worse if you have the stomach.
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/voices.php/2006/06/21/war_crimes_and_world_domination

Read this concerning the KBR contract
http://www.alternet.org/rights/33295/

[stop the bleeding]

1. nominating for the awareness n/t

[mike_c]

2. I will not be satisfied until Bush is tried and convicted...

...for crimes against humanity. NEVER in my life has my political ire extended beyond "vote the bastard out," but Bush and the top members of his cabinet deserve nothing less than life in prison for their crimes. I am aware of the crimes committed by previous administrations, and would not diminish them, but NONE come close to the sheer scale of criminality that the convergence of post-Nixon neocons, a hapless fuckwit former fratboy deserter, and a corrupt republican party in control of both houses of Congress have brought us.

[serryjw]

5. I agree

Doubt if we will see justice for any of them. F*CK we can't even get Rove.

[ladjf]

18. Ain't gonna happen Mike. Not enough enlightened Americans.

We might go down in history as the only Country that voted in favor of the overthrow of their own government. Think what I am saying. Can a voting constituency possibly do anything dumber than that?
The effectiveness of mass mind control as hit a new high water mark in the U.S.

[mike_c]

21. I know-- I figure I will never be proud to be American again....

I feel like someone who stood by and watched a terrible crime and did nothing to stop it-- I know that's not entirely true, and there wasn't much more I could do anyway, but I still have that unclean feeling about my country. I imagine a good many germans felt this way.

[ladjf]

27. Your sad and poignant feelings are shared by more Americans

than you might think. What would it take for us to once again be proud to say "I'm from the United States"? It wasn't too many years ago that we were looked up to, admired by all the world. How the mighty have fallen.

[dysfunctional press]

34. that will NEVER happen.

sorry to be the bearer of bad news...

[Greeby]

3. Sorry, just can't

DU is the one subject I just can't cope with :scared:

[serryjw]

4. Understand

REALLY a bad article..worse than I thought

[Ghost Dog]

59. Indeed.

Expresses truths already known, but clearly and concisely enough to inspire me to devote a few hours to translating this into Spanish.

Spread the word.

[NEOBuckeye]

16. You'd better learn.

If we are ever going to muster the power to take Bush and his ilk down, this is something that we are all going to have to face up to and acknowledge, no matter how horrific the implications are.

[Maraya1969]

6. I know it is horrible but it needs to be seen. I've recommended it

I also checked out this journalist and all I can find is he has written for several online news papers. Can anyone substantiate the he is to be believed? This is REALLY bad.

[serryjw]

11. Are you sure you wanta know?

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/05/1356248

http://www.iacenter.org/depleted/du.htm
updated: 9 February, 2006
Download Information Brochure about Depleted Uranium:
ANOTHER WAR CRIME? IRAQI CITIES "HOT" WITH DEPLETED URANIUM htm version

Action Guide: Depleted Uranium/Gulf War Syndrome: pdf booklet produced by SNAFU

International Appeal to Ban DU By former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark

-------------
Depleted Uranium
How the Pentagon Radiates Soldiers & Civilians with DU Weapons
http://www.iacenter.org/depleted/mettoc.htm

[nealmhughes]

7. U 238 is the most common form of Uranium.

It is not fissile by itself, but when exposed to a neutron flux, transmutes to Plutonium, which is.
Natural Uranium is an alpha emitter, and is in fact used as a shield against gamma rays.
It is most dangerous as a heavy metal than from its radioactive properties.
The extremely long half life indicates stability.
While I would not want to drink Uranium 238 in my water or in my crops, due to the heavy metal content, it can be safely handled (and is) by just a pair of cotton gloves.
It would only be a health hazard if powdered/pulverized, not in a solid form -- as long as one had a sheet of paper or cotton gloves between themselves and the U 238.
Its name "Uranium" make it sound scary, but it is about the same danger level as lead...
You would not want a lead pipe carrying your water or to breathe Uranium dust!

[Egalitariat]

8. You mean I don't get a "Whoa is us" moment out of this?

It looked so promising.

[serryjw]

9. You nailed the problem

DU is ALL powdered used in our munitions. There is a ton of other articles about Bushit-41 use in Gulf 1 and Bushit's continued use in Gulf 2

[immoderate]

10. The problem is it aerosolizes when used in weapons or burnt.

It is used in bullets and larger ordinance. Out soldiers are breathing it. Not to mention the Iraquis. There will be many deaths.

Edit to add, some of it has made it over here on atmospheric currents.

--IMM

[nealmhughes]

12. I didn't know they powdered it to make the ord..

that is the same as putting powdered lead on the soil and in the water and in the air. I had assumed that it was a solid projectile, since it is touted as ord for its hardness.
When a nuclear reactor is refueled, the raw fuel rods are handled by cotton gloves only before being lowered into the water (I know, I've done it many times). It is very slightly enriched for commercial purposes. In naval reactors, it is highly enriched.
I don't know squat about U 238 as ord, but a lot as fuel.
Since most U is 238, I just assumed that they took natural U and made shells out of it as a metal.

[serryjw]

13. Us is very creative on how to destroy humanity

quote.....
DU emits alpha, beta, and gamma radiation, which can damage many parts of the body and cause cancer and genetic mutations. Tiny dust-like DU particles – formed when shells impact and burn – can be inhaled and lodge in the lungs, bones, and kidneys, where they damage cells and organs through radiation or toxic effects. Human and animal studies have linked DU exposure and damage to the kidneys, immune, nervous, respiratory, and reproductive systems, and to cancer and genetic mutation
snip....
Exposure to "depleted" uranium can occur by inhalation of DU dust; ingestion of DU directly or in contaminated food, soil, and water; embedding of DU fragments in the body; contamination of open wounds with DU dust; and absorption through contact with the skin. Injection of fragments and inhalation of DU dust are considered to be the routes of exposure most likely to cause health effects. However, there is a lack of data on DU exposure during and after conflict, and post-conflict civilian ingestion of DU is also considered a significant risk. External exposure to DU is not considered a significant health hazard unless a DU shell or fragment is kept next to the skin for many days.

When a "depleted" uranium shell hits a hard target – such as a tank or building – the DU burns and about 20% vaporizes into a fine dust that can be inhaled by those in the immediate vicinity (up to 400 meters) or by personnel who work in, on, or around the impact site at a later date. DU particles can travel at least twenty-five miles on air currents, and can re-suspend into the air years later when disturbed by wind, people, or machinery.

end quote.....

http://www.miltoxproj.org/DU%20Fact%20Sheet.htm

[alfredo]

14. It's not just the hardness, it is the mass.

That extra weight gives a round more knock down potential.

[dysfunctional press]

36. i don't think they powderize it to make the ordinance...

it's when the weapons are USED, that the u238 gets "aerosolized"- especially in anti-tank rounds.

[Toots]

37. How does it become depleted?

If it lasts for over a million years how do we deplete it and if we can why is there any concern about storage of such materials in the USA?

[serryjw]

38. Read the links I posted

it explains the process.

[NNadir]

48. Sigh. Uranium is as common on the earth as tin.

There are three to five billion tons in the ocean.

One hears this crap about uranium regularly, usually with the mention of the scientific illiterate Helen Caldicott, a woman who makes her living by being a complete idiot.

Let's get this straight: War is wrong because it's war. The purpose of war is to kill people.

When we look for desperate and silly reasons to oppose war, like all of this "deadly uranium-238" stuff, we make ourselves look trivial and foolish.

The war is not wrong because of "deadly" uranium-238. The subject of exactly how "deadly" U-238 is covered (once a month I post this reference) in Chem Rev 2003, 103, 4207-4882. How "deadly" is "deadly" U-238? Not very.

Thousands of metric tons of "deadly" uranium-238 was used up until recently to make pottery glaze. It was so used for centuries. In fact, Roman pottery and colored glass made from uranium is known.

Here is a picture of some such pottery:



http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~emartz/martzpots/gallery/uranium.htm

They had to stop making certain kinds of Fiesta ware during world war II because the US government was scarfing up all of the uranium for the Manhattan Project.

Many orange glazes, and many yellow stained glass windows in churches ooze with uranium.

It is so depressing to realize how many thousands of times this crap is going to float around.

Let me try this one more time: War is wrong because it's war. We don't need silly reasons to oppose war. We should oppose war because it's war.

[skids]

50. It's aerosolized Uranium.

Like mercury, this is an environmental catastrophe.

While we all appreciate the reminder that it's a chemical catastrophy, not a radiological one, this isn't "crap" that's just floating around -- it's a real problem.

Your point on war should be well taken, but I think what we have here is the choir on that point.

[NNadir]

54. So the claim is that this case is extra special super incredible important

I would imagine that there is aerosol uranium associated with being around a lot of sea spray.

This possibility would account for the observation described in the review article I previously mentioned:

Recent studies done in Germany, using a small group of normal healthy volunteers who do not work with or around uranium, have determined that, while adolescents appear to have very little naturally occurring uranium (measured as 238U) and thorium (measured as 232Th) present in their excretions, older subjects had increased concentrations of uranium and thorium in their excretions, and these increased significantly with age. These findings support the view that uranium is a common trace element in the environment, and that some uranium intake and accumulation is natural.

The internal references in this review article are these:

(430) Wrenn, M. E.; Durbin, P. W.; Howard, B.; Lipsztein, J.; Rundo,
J.; Still, E. T.; Willis, D. L. Health Phys. 1985, 48, 608.

(431) Werner, E.; Roth, P.; Wendler, I.; Schramel, P. Fortsch. Strahlenschutz
1998, 182.

Of course, we have the matter of dust storms in areas, possibly from desertified land, with high amounts of uranium in its soils. Here, where I live, we have quite a bit of uranium in our soil since the main geological formation under the land around here is the Reading Prong. In fact, I an almost all of my neighbors have significant detectable radon in our basements. Does this mean that if we have a drought, and the dust kicks up, we should all run indoors and hide because it will be just like the Iraq war.

I field about one or two threads like this a month since I've been writing on websites since the installation of the national weener in the White House. I have always felt exactly the same about all of them: They make us look ridiculous, since among the elements associated with war, uranium is certainly not the most toxic. I note that I have yet to see an entire thread devoted to the widely understood fact that bullets are made out of lead. I have yet to see a single thread that considers that war crimes trials should be held because the Bush administration is using dangerous lead weapons in Iraq.

(This has no bearing on the question of whether war is always a crime: It is.)

Come to think of it, I have yet to see a single thread - though I'd love to see one actually - that makes the point that crude oil should be banned because crude oil is used to make napalm. That's also true.

The elegant position on war is to oppose war because it's war. This, in fact, was exactly the position held by some of the finest minds in the last century, including Albert Einstein and Bertrand Russell. One doesn't need to invent ever more dubious reasons, especially reasons that are obviously untrue to anyone who looks into the matter.

[Ghost Dog]

60. No. You're right, NNadir, but this is many orders of magnitude

larger, coldly deliberate, and therefore very different to what is natural.

[Mnemosyne]

15. K and R!

Will read link in a.m. serryjw, not a subject conducive to sleep.

[NEOBuckeye]

17. Given that the Sun is expected to "live" about another 5 Billion Years...

...Before becoming a Red Giant and either severely toasting the Earth, or else expanding to engulf and destroy it, Depleted Uranium, with a half-life of 4.5 Billion Years effectively lasts FOREVER. Even if the Earth were to outlive the Sun somehow, in whatever charred and/or frosted state it may remain, it will still take 20 Billion years for DU's radioactivity to decay to nominal levels!

But, I fear that I'm overstating the obvious. A mere hundred thousand years' worth of time -- longer than the length of humanity's recorded history -- is a rather difficult concept for the humand mind to grasp. A million years is even more difficult. Try imagining a billion years time.

Does this help you to understand any better that Depleted Uranium will remain insidiously radioactive for the entire remaining life of our planet?

[ladjf]

19. Point well made. That depleted uranium will continue it's

lethal influences far beyond the existence of life on Earth. And for what purpose? To kill a few extra Iraqis? Such barbaric acts could only have been perpetrated by the extremely ignorant.

[Heywood J]

42. Uh, radioactive yes,

Lethally so? Not really. If it were, we'd all be dead right now - it's in the rocks around us. The danger is more heavy-metal poisoning and getting it inside you through dust and shrapnel, rather than being exposed to radiation.

The fact that the half-life is so long indicates that it's comparatively stable. The longer the half-life, the less radiation emitted, and vice-versa. Think of it like a gas tank, in that the longer it takes to empty it, the lower the rate of consumption (radiation emission).

Substances with an extremely long half-life are comparatively safe to handle (thin barriers like a sheet of paper will stop emissions), while substances with the extremely short half-lives are the most dangerous. I'd be more worried about some bastard getting his hands on plutonium and some conventional explosives, or someone wrecking a nuclear navy ship.

Is it it something I'd want to breathe, day in and day out? No. Is it something I'd want under my skin? No. Is it something I'd want to drink? No. But do I think I'm going to die from being near it? Not if I'm wearing clothing, and in the quantities used in munitions.

[poverlay]

45. You may want to research a little further into U238. I could be mistaken,

but I've been studying the stuff for years, and we're absolutely not talking about the naturally occurring uranium. The stuff we're worried about is the highly enriched stuff that is no longer suitable for weapons or energy production. It will still cause massive damage in human DNA, whether it's outside or inside. The worst worry is that it will get inhaled(or otherwise introduced to the interior of the body),because the body has no mechanism for expelling it, it will just sit there for the rest of eternity, and constantly "radiate" causing thousands, millions of tiny holes in your body which leads to visible effects such as cancer, autoimmune diseases, birth defects, etc. etc.. It would take a very, very small amount~something on the order of of a few grains~to cause adverse effects.

That's what I've learned, and without a great deal more information proving the safety of the stuff, I think I'll avoid it. Why should my government be allowed to deal with our safety, or the safety of our international friends, any differently?

[me b zola]

20. Damn, this makes me recall...

Remember the Iraqi baby with congenital defects, spina bifida, that the military brought back to the US to recieve health care? As glad as I was that ONE child was able to travel to the US for health care, I was SO pissed that in all likelyhood the baby's congenital defect was caused by the DU that the pentagon had inflicted upon this and many other children---and then the military propped up the story as though the Pentagon was an agent of good will.

There are so many atrocities happening, it is overwhelming :cry:

[Sad4world]

22. Bush Legacy

[Hekate]

23. And it comes home to us with our sick soldiers, their spouses, & unborn...

Gulf War soldiers were (and are) sickened and killed by DU as well -- and a new generation of US troops will be as well. Democracy Now and others (too few others) have covered this.

edited to add links from my files:

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/6078
Published on AfterDowningStreet.org (http://www.afterdowningstreet.org)

Heads roll at Veterans Administration
By davidswanson
Created 2005/12/28 - 14:13

Mushrooming depleted uranium (DU) scandal blamed
By Bob Nichols, Project Censored Award Winner

Preventive Psychiatry E-Newsletter charged Monday that the reason Veterans Affairs Secretary Anthony Principi stepped down earlier this month was the growing scandal surrounding the use of uranium munitions in the Iraq War.

Writing in Preventive Psychiatry E-Newsletter No. 169, Arthur N. Bernklau, executive director of Veterans for Constitutional Law in New York, stated, "The real reason for Mr. Principi’s departure was really never given, however a special report published by eminent scientist Leuren Moret naming depleted uranium as the definitive cause of the ‘Gulf War Syndrome’ has fed a growing scandal about the continued use of uranium munitions by the US Military." ..............

He added, "Out of the 580,400 soldiers who served in GW1 (the first Gulf War), of them, 11,000 are now dead! By the year 2000, there were 325,000 on Permanent Medical Disability. This astounding number of ‘Disabled Vets’ means that a decade later, 56% of those soldiers who served have some form of permanent medical problems!" The disability rate for the wars of the last century was 5 percent; it was higher, 10 percent, in Viet Nam. ..............
"The long-term effects have revealed that DU (uranium oxide) is a virtual death sentence," stated Berklau.
>more<


http://www.sfbayview.com/081804/Depleteduranium081804.shtml
SFBayView.com
August 25, 2004

Depleted uranium: Dirty bombs, dirty missiles, dirty bullets
A death sentence here and abroad
by Leuren Moret

Vietnam was a chemical war for oil, permanently
contaminating large regions and countries downriver with
Agent Orange, and environmentally the most devastating
war in world history. But since 1991, the U.S. has staged
four nuclear wars using depleted uranium weaponry, which,
like Agent Orange, meets the U.S. government definition
of Weapons of Mass Destruction. Vast regions in the
Middle East and Central Asia have been permanently
contaminated with radiation.

And what about our soldiers? Terry Jemison of the
Department of Veterans Affairs reported this week to
the American Free Press that "Gulf-era veterans" now on
medical disability since 1991 number 518,739, with only
7,035 reported wounded in Iraq in that same 14-year
period.

This week the American Free Press dropped a "dirty bomb"
on the Pentagon by reporting that eight out of 20 men who
served in one unit in the 2003 U.S. military offensive in
Iraq now have malignancies. That means that 40 percent
of the soldiers in that unit have developed malignancies in
just 16 months.
>more<


Hekate

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

24. It's commonly referred to as - - - - DU! Vanity Fair had a good article

a while back. Jaw dropping then, jaw dropping now. If we want to find weapons of mass destruction, we don't have to look far. We are using them, we are leaving the remnants everywhere. It will kill masses, just slowly - and some of those masses will be our own soldiers. How does this "support the troops"?

I think this should really stay at the forefront of ANY discussion about Iraq. The next time a talking head general is in front of the cameras, I want someone, ANYONE, to ask him about exposing our troops to this deadly stuff and do we have any regrets about killing off large parts of an ancient land permanently. DU is really just a lot of "dirty" nuclear weapons put into many many little pieces. Shouldn't we recognize that we are in fact fighting a nuclear war? Can we stop this madness? Do our own troops have any knowledge at all that they themselves are being poisoned by our government?

[unhappycamper]

25. My VFP chapter (eastern MA) has put together a two-hour

show and tell on the subject. We've given the presentation twice in the last few months.

DU (the bad one) is seriously bad shit.

[formercia]

26. The sooner the Administration can depopulate Iraq

the easier it will be to control the oil fields. People are leaving in droves. Many of the educated people who are needed to run the country have left, or been assassinated. When there are few people qualified to run the infrastructure, the country cannot make progress.

[Karenina]

29. It's called GENOCIDE.

[malaise]

32. Bingo

Does anyone have data on medical problems of Gulf War 1 soldiers? One of my friends is married to a soldier from that war and their baby was born with severe medical problems. He was in and out of hospital for the three short years of his life. They were convinced that his exposure to depleted uranium created those problems.

[serryjw]

40. Medical problems

quote.........
The military is aware of DU's harmful effects on the human genetic code. A 2001 study of DU's effect on DNA done by Dr. Alexandra C. Miller for the Armed Forces Radiobiology Research Institute in Bethesda, Md., indicates that DU's chemical instability causes 1 million times more genetic damage than would be expected from its radiation effect alone
end quote......
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20060503&articleId=2374
-------------

Since all our troops are treated at VA hospital, and just like Agent Orange from VietNam, they are denying it, it's tough to get true numbers.
quote.......
75% of the 696,841 military personnel who served in the Gulf from August 2, 1990 to end of July, 1991 have filed claims for or have been reported by the Veteran's Administration (VA) to be on some form of disability in 2004. It's likely the true number is closer to the lower percentage, but I've chosen to report the range in case later on we learn things were far worse than we now can imagine. We do know an additional 11,910 vets have died as of early this year.
end quote.......
snip.....
So what can we make from all this. From the Gulf war in 1991, at a minimum many tens of thousands of the US military forces sent there for a short period of time have had health problems or are now on some form of disability. But the worst is yet to come. In the Afghanistan war beginning in late 2001 and the Iraq war from March, 2003, about 1.3 million US military forces have served in combat and occupation in these countries. They were all assigned long tours of duty and most of them have served two or three deployments to what are beyond question the most dangerous and toxic environments on earth. Somewhere between 30 -
75% of Operation Desert Shield and Desert Storm are now on some kind of disability or have died. If those percentages are applied to the 1.3 million of our military now serving or having served in Iraq and Afghanistan since 2001, between 390,000 - to 975,000 vets may end up on disability or die from exposure to the far more toxic DU munitions used in these wars, the many other poisonous pollutants they've been exposed to, and the much longer and multiple tours of duty they've had to undergo.
end quote........

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13433.htm
---------------------

When you read shit like this, you know. they can keep telling themselves thay are NOT killing our troops but obviously, not so
quote.......
Depleted uranium is approximately 40 percent less radioactive than natural uranium.
end quote......
http://deploymentlink.osd.mil/faq/du_faq.shtml

[malaise]

43. Thanks

Genocide of others is one thing, but this is genocide relating to US citizens. What a shameless group of men.

[Karenina]

51. "Genocide of *others* is one thing,

but this is genocide relating to US citizens.

Would you please say more?

[malaise]

53. The victims of Depleted Uranium

and their offspring. They knowingly exposed their own military to these chemicals.

[serryjw]

57. There is NO 'other'

This is against the Geneva Conference for a reason. Killing would be a pleasant alternative to this.

[Ghost Dog]

61. Yeah, I'd rather turn that over on its head:

Genocide by (non-originally-native) US citizens (or their erstwhile slaves) of (non-originally-native) US citizens is one thing; genocide against the rest of the world is something else...

...US unthinking self-centeredness is sometimes, uh, wonderful to behold.

[Blue Velvet]

31. "The Bush Family Evil Empire - covertly and overtly taking over the world

both home and abroad since 1929"

But it seems the "overtly" gets more overt with each passing day.

Gah. :puke:

[OneBlueSky]

28. links to more information on depleted uranium . . .

and its use in weaponry . . . not only a war crime, but a crime against humanity of monumental proportions . . .

and it's still happening! . ..

http://www.betterworldlinks.org/book107a.htm

[snappyturtle]

30. Thanks for doing the homework serryjw!

This is another horrible chapter of the neo-cons' regime year book. We are so coooked. Even if they are stopped they have done so much irreparable damage that we'll never recover. These acts of * make Saddam look like a choir boy.

[Javaman]

33. When our lands are salted and our airs poisoned...

who will be the meek that will still want it?

we are going to pay dearly for this.

[serryjw]

39. You forgot the water

EVERYTIME someone drinks or eats from the cataminated soil there are killing themselves.

[lonestarnot]

35. I had the stomach.

KBR and bushitler will pay for their destruction of our earth.

[Gregorian]

41. Helen Coldicott hardly got any notice when she shouted this in 2002

I have posted on this in it's own thread once upon a time. And it also got little attention.

One day I was working in a field with my truck radio on. And I heard Dr. Coldicott giving a talk. I wandered over and listened. And I could not walk away. This was around 2002. She wasn't talking about our soldiers. She was talking about the after affects of Bush's war in Iraq. The first Bush, not the sequel Bush. Not that it matters. These children were being born to horrific birth defects. Oh, and they have no medical facilities to speak of because of sanctions. And then came Bush the sequel. Can you imagine? I can't. Being ill without help.

And that's pretty much the story. What else is there to say? We can continue, or we can stop and clean up the mess and help the poor sick people. There is no doubt it is the DU that has caused this. And now we have our own coming back sick.

We love you Bush family. Cheney. Rumsfelt. Et al.

[serryjw]

44. Bush the sequel

Goes to prove that sequels should never be made!

BTW...It's Dr Helen CALDICOTT...Sign up for her news letter. The more that talk about this, the better off our troops will be in the long run. AMERICANS can not bury their head in the sand. WE share in the responsibility and horror we are inflicting on the world community.Dems leadership share in the responsibility...This has been going on for a long time and NO ONE cares. Think of Agent Orange's cover-up.

http://www.nuclearpolicy.org/

[Gregorian]

47. Thanks.

I appreciat that link.

I had a feeling I was spelling her name wrong. She is an amazing person. I love what she has done.

[zestfolly]

46. Bush Family Values Photo Album

For more than a half century, members of the Bush family have been setting policy and making decisions for all Americans. Let's look at the family that has had such an impact on the lives of human beings worldwide

It all started with Prescott Bush, George W. Bush's grandfather. In 1918 it is said that he robbed the grave and stole the skull of the Native American warrior Geronimo as part of an initiation into Yale's Skull and Bones Society. The Skull and Bones society has long been important to the Bush Family. George Bush Sr. and George W. Bush were also members of this secret society.

Prescott Bush had a bit of trouble back in the 1940s. While American soldiers were fighting the Nazis in WWII, a few of the companies Prescott managed were seized under the Trading with the Enemy Act because they were fronts for Nazi Industrialist Fritz Thyssen, a financier of Hitler's Third Reich.

Here are more pictures of Bush family and friends

http://www.hereinreality.com/familyvalues.html

[JNelson6563]

49. I am stunned and horrified

I've often wondered how the oligarchy will remain in place with all things seemingly crumbling around us. Now it all makes sense. Slave nation. Regression.

amazing!

[Rex]

52. K&R

This is something I've always been amazed by. Repukes love railing against WMD, yet that is exactly what depleted uranium is *surprise*. I can't wait to see the war crimes trials for the BFEE.

[Ghost Dog]

62. Sorry. No can do.

Your people are carrying too many guns.

Capisco: Gun Law.

ed: You have to at least try to save yourselves. Then, maybe, eventually, we'll see what we can attempt to do for you.

[Nothing Without Hope]

55. A ***GRAPHIC PRESENTATION of U238's DECAY PATHWAY*** - deadly stuff

For those who keep saying "U238 only emits alpha particles" - that's true but it ignores the far more deadly breakdown products and THEIR decay. Here is a chart showing the path and the half-lives and emissions at each step. It's from this site:
http://www.ccnr.org/decay_U238.html

[Nothing Without Hope]

56. I have never even heard a Bushie party line explaining WHY they dumped

this terrible poison onto the land. It's just ignored. Anybody here heard an "explanation" from the bushies for doing this?

[lovuian]

58. And you know the Irony of it is we are losing the war

with all the uranium its killing us more than them... thats the irony...

Karma Karma Karma