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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 11:51 AM
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How to get out of Iraq? Set a date and go. It HAS been done before.
As the politicians jabber and try to figure out some "honorable" way of leaving, other politicians solved their problems with the slaughter in Iraq by simply announcing a date they were leaving, and left. All our politicians are doing is playing politics and trying to save face.

As the ad says, "Just DO it!"

http://www.cfr.org/publication/9340/update.html

The debate over when the United States should exit Iraq has focused more on the size of U.S. forces than on the size of the overall coalition. Advocates on both sides of the issue should probably start to look at the coalition more closely. Over the past year, the size of the multinational contribution in Iraq has fallen by half, and most of the major remaining contributors are on record as planning to leave in 2006. Currently, in addition to the United States, there are twenty-seven members of the "coalition of the willing" that contribute some 24,000 mostly non-combat forces. That figure—down from the immediate aftermath of the March 2003 invasion of Iraq, when thirty-eight countries provided roughly 50,000 forces—is expected to drop in the months ahead.

Two of Washington's staunchest partners in the war, Ukraine and Bulgaria, announced they would withdraw their 876 and 380 troops respectively by January. Netherlands, which had a force of 1,400 in Iraq earlier this year, has pulled out nearly all of its troops. Italy, Australia, and South Korea are expected to follow suit in early 2006. Even Britain, the United States' strongest ally, has hinted it may draw down its troops by next year. "It seems likely the US will be virtually alone in Iraq as a foreign military power by mid-2006," predicts Juan Cole, a Middle East expert at the University of Michigan, in his blog on Middle Eastern politics.

Why are countries pulling out?

As casualties mount, the publics of many of the coalition nations are asking, Was it worth the effort? Many of these nations committed troops in exchange for some form of U.S. assistance, experts say. During a recent visit to Mongolia, for example, President Bush pledged $11 million for its 120 "fearless warriors" in Iraq as part of the White House's "solidarity initiative." Poland's presence in Iraq was motivated in part by the prospect of securing lucrative post-war reconstruction or oil contracts. Many Poles, however, were disappointed that Washington still refused to consider granting Poles the same preferences for U.S. visas enjoyed by longtime European allies like Germany and France.

Some experts say opposition to the war, always strong overseas, is building to an even higher pitch. Others say the escalating violence in Iraq is more to blame. "Their troops are probably seeing more than what we're seeing in the newspapers about corpses showing up and they're maybe saying to their leaders, 'It's only a matter of time before one of these things happen under our nose, and we're going to have to look the other way,'" Posen says. "Remember what happened to that hapless Dutch battalion at Srebrenica?" In 1995, overmatched Dutch peacekeepers looked on as Bosnian Muslims were massacred by Serbian troops at Srebrenica
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 11:53 AM
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1. Basically as in VN, the Congress has to pull the plug
they tell the Emperor Murderer Terrorist-In-Chief NO MORE MONEY FOR YOUR WAR
then after a good freakout he declares victory and leaves.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 12:02 PM
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4. I agree. Alas, such courage is not in evidence to date.
It will come, but only after much more blood is shed needlessly in a hopeless attempt to salvage what is already lost.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 11:58 AM
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2. Very shrewd people have framed up an excuse so that we will NEVER
leave Iraq: "war on terror". Some congressman said it this morning, "it isn't about Iraq, it never was
about Iraq, it's the global war on terror".

The only way that they will end this is if the occupation causes a economic collapse, as it did for the Soviets.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 12:00 PM
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3. of course, there's no evidence that we can defeat terrorism there
more evidence that we're creating more terrorists with our occupation.

It's about the preservation of the republican party. The Iraq War Party.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 12:03 PM
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5. THe very proof of this is the almost immediate announcement today
of the successor to Zarqawi. Never mind that it was never clear who or what Zarqawi was in the first place.
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