To all those who will attend Christian church services tonight or tomorrow

[Kerrytravelers]

Please, let us know if the release of The Da Vinci Code has led to the complete fall of Christianity and of the church now lies in ruins.




















I don't mean to be snarky, but I'm a lapsed Catholic who loved the concepts behind the book. I think it makes for interesting discussions about the politics and the history of religion. I wasn't in love with the film, but I in no way see the end of religion... Christianity in particular. However, since we are on a "crusade" according to der prezinet, I just want to be sure all is well.

[MichiganVote]

1. Yeah and don't forget to remind people Mary M. was a whore

That's like really important to the story of christianity.

[Kerrytravelers]

6. I'm not sure where I indicated that anyone was a whore.

I simply think that all the protests other DUers have described, plus the ones I've read about in Italy and india are pure silly. They can protest all they like, but it it, in my opinion, rather silly. There are so many important things i nthe world to be upset over. I hardly think a Hollywood film is really going to lead to the fall of Christianity.

[MichiganVote]

21. Sorry Kerry, didn't mean to infer you had insulted Mary M. Rather,

I was adding, albeit lamely, to the fact that the most MSM seems to repeat over and over again is the supposed fact that Mary M. was a whore etc. etc.

I too find all of this silly inclu. the above mentioned. But...I seem to recall there was more censure from the church when it came to Deep Throat!

[Kerrytravelers]

27. Oh good. Whew!

I can not get over the MSM. I am so tired of their inability to be maure about anything.

[MichiganVote]

31. Same here. White "news" noise. I shut down more each day.

[HawkerHurricane]

25. Except she's not.

Mary M. is the madwoman (Excuse me, 'demon possessed woman') who Jesus had cured.

It's commonly assumed that she's also the 'woman caught in adultery' (with whom?), but that woman is unnamed.

[MichiganVote]

32. See my further comments to Kerry for an explanation.

[LA lady]

2. Neither does this guy

I was amazed

Crystal Cathedral's Schuller Recommends 'The Da Vinci Code'


Friday, May. 19, 2006 Posted: 9:53:37AM EST

LOS ANGELES (AP) – While some Christians have decried ''The Da Vinci Code'' as sacrilegious, one high-profile pastor is recommending the film.

The Rev. Robert A. Schuller, pastor of Southern California's Crystal Cathedral and host of TV's weekly "Hour of Power" program, said on Thursday's "Inside Edition" he planned to catch a screening of the film later in the day.

While he said he doesn't believe the movie, or the best-seller it's based on, is historically accurate, he feels the film is good fodder for discussion.

"As long as people talk about `The Da Vinci Code,' they'll discover the divinity code of who Jesus Christ is," Schuller said.

Christian leaders in China, Singapore, India, South Korea, Thailand and elsewhere have tried to get the film censored or banned. <1>

http://www.christianpost.com/article/church/2641/section/crystal.cathedrals.schuller.recommends.the.da.vinci.code/1.htm

[Kerrytravelers]

10. Whoa. No way! Schuller?!?!

Now I know all of civilization is going to crumble under the weight of this film!

I guess it's ok when the Catholic's look bad. Can you imagine if this was in regards to the Protestants? Now that would be a different case entirely!

[Ringo84]

14. Exactly

Good for Schuller. He may be on the TBN (Trinity Broadcast Network or, as I call it, Total Bullshit Network), but he's a sensible guy. It's what I've been saying all along.

He gets some points in my book for that.
Ringo

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. Do you suppose it's kind of like what happened in "Peter Pan"?

Tinker Bell nearly died because not enough children believed in fairies. So I guess now God will die if too many people see "The Da Vinci Code."

[Kerrytravelers]

8. LoL!

:rofl: You would think all of society will fall into chaos if people see this film.

Cardinal Urges Legal Action Against 'Da Vinci'
http://news.aol.com/entertainment/movies/articles/_a/cardinal-urges-legal-action-against-da/20060508072309990001

I brought this up a few days ago.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1208957

[LanternWaste]

4. A group of us

A group of us from the singles dept. and the minister of music at my church will be seeing it directly after the morning service tomorrow. If our church erupts in flame, we'll make sure you're the first to know...

[Kerrytravelers]

11. I live down the street from a few liberal churches... they'll be the first

to go down in flames. Please, be sure to give me plenty of advanced warning!

[annabanana]

5. lol.. I suspect that if my liberal little Episcopalian church

mentions it at all, it will be as an introduction into the history of the assembly of the collection that we currently know as The Bible.

[Kerrytravelers]

12. Mr kt and I have been considering attending the liberal Episcopalian

church near us. It has a great parish and everyone who attends has encouraged us. They are particularly welcoming to Catholics because, unfortunately, although we live in a very liberal area, the local catholics churches tend to be a bit full of money-grubbing types of rethugs. Not particularly religious, but they really hate to pay their fair share. How Christian-like of them. :eyes:

[annabanana]

15. It's not a tough hop.

Having split differently than the other Protestant churches, we still have the basic form of the Mass, transubstantiation, The Nicean Creed etc.
(Our Church, while made up of political liberals, has a pretty conservative liturgy - lol, We even sing parts of our Mass in Latin. Other Episcopal Churches call us "spikey" - as in "high church")

[Kerrytravelers]

17. Check your PM.

[tanyev]

7. Well if it does, I won't have to play organ for early service

tomorrow morning.

:woohoo:

[Kerrytravelers]

9. Perhaps there is divine intervention after all. Now you get to sleep in!

[wellstone dem]

13. I think to be safe I should just sleep in tomorrow. nt

[lynne]

16. Our pastor mentioned it last week -

- and the conclusion is that our faith is not dependent upon Jesus maritial status. No big deal.

[Kerrytravelers]

19. Thank you! I have the exact same feelings.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1208957#1209177

My post from the link:

You know, even if Jesus was married and was a man, what is the big deal?

Personally, I'm a Christian. Even if everything in Di Vinci Code is 100% true, that would not rock my faith one little bit. I happen to believe that perhaps there is something greater than me in the universe. I don't happen to believe that Christianity is the only true interpretation. It appears to me that all religions tend to have the same focus: the live a good life and be kind and loving to others, whether you find this through Christ, Allah, a Pagan Goddess or if you find your own path outside of religion. Anyone who is so insistent that they are the only way and they are right all the time is not only delusional, but mathematically impossible since it is impossible to always be correct! But, this is just by $.02 Take it for what it's worth.

kt

[demosincebirth]

18. I read the book and seen the movie

and I thought the movie was quite good and better than I expected. It still is fiction and people have to understand that.

[Kerrytravelers]

26. It's obvious from the comments of the protesters that they haven't read

the book. They act as if this is shelved in the non-fiction section and they act as if Dan Brown has condemned all of Christianity. Fundamentalists Christians love to be the persecuted majority. Please. I get so tired of this. My in-laws always fret about all the "non-Christians" out to destroy their country. :eyes: :crazy: If they want to protest, by all means, protest your little hearts out. But don't be surprised when I roll my eyes and laugh at the utter non-sense over a fictional book and a fictional Hollywood Studio picture.

[demosincebirth]

33. I agree,

I'm R.Catholic, too. and it upsets me to think that the hierarchy of the church doesn't give catholics credit for having any brains

[proud2BlibKansan]

20. Let's just let el pretzeldente ask God for us

[degreesofgray]

22. Churches? I thought they all crumbled

when The Last Temptation of Christ came out years ago.

[Kerrytravelers]

28. Oh that's right. I forgot about that crisis of faith.

Whew. Lucky we all survived that! There for a while, I wasn't sure... I know the Earth teetered on the balance... lucky we all made it through. Whew!

[patrice]

23. The real Church has no walls.

Alan Watts used to say the purpose of any honest church is to make itself obsolete.

[degreesofgray]

34. and if someone feels their religion is threatened

because of a book or a movie (or the sexual orientation of others), they should reassess their beliefs.

[patrice]

35. If you don't know why/how you believe as you do, everything is

threatening to it. IMO, belief shouldn't depend upon others. Though it is Good to share belief if someone else wants to, you can't share what isn't really yours in the first place and it isn't yours unless you've made it so by asking and answering all of your own questions about what you do and don't believe HONESTLY.

[patrice]

24. Does anyone remember The Last Temptation of Christ?

I honestly don't understand all of the uproar. These discussions have always been a part of "Christianity". Any mature Christian has faced the issues raised by Brown's work of fictional-facts and very possibly decided long ago that the need for concrete proof, of anything about the man called Jesus, is antithetical to believing.

[Kerrytravelers]

29. Mature is the key word.

Anyone who thinks * is a strong leader doesn't have a lick of maturity in them. They are too simplistic to understand the complexities of history and politics in regards to religion. They can't grasp that saddam has no links to 9-11, how can we possibly expect them to understand that The Da Vinci Code is a fictional book? :shrug:

[patrice]

30. They think it doesn't matter that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11.

The point is to demonstrate Power. It is worth Bush's "white lie" because our cause is "noble". And anyone who suffers or dies is a glorious martyr. Whether SH is guilty of 9/11 is a petty thing compared to our crusade for Democracy and Freedom which is fed with Power and spot-on Marketing. All we have to do is stay committed long enough and the rest of the World will respect our power and Iraq will be better off than it was.