A very interesting interview with Hillary.

[DURHAM D]

I forget where/how I found out about this just recently but last summer (July) Hillary did a 30 minute interview about her faith. It is very interesting and candid - in fact it is the most intimate and personal interview I have ever heard with her. If you ask yourself how she keeps going in the face of all of the hate that is thrown at her and if you wonder how she keeps getting up every morning and moving forward - this interview will shed some light.

The interview was with David Brody. If you go to cbn.com and then click on Brody - down at the bottom of the screen is a reference for Hillary: I Have Felt the Presence. Sadly, it is just audio - no video. Give it a listen.

I mentioned it to a friend this morning (a recovering Southern Baptist) who is a Hillary fan and he gave it a listen and called me back to thank me for the tip. He posts in several religious forums (he is a student of the bible and comparative religions) and plans to use it with several women he knows that are Christians, anti-Hillary and anti-Methodist. Frankly, I think he sees it as a way to call them on their christian hypocrisy - one of his passions.

One of the things I thought about as I was listening to the tape - How would Obama respond to these questions? How would Bush respond to these questions?

In the interest of full disclosure I am ethnic Methodist and agnostic.

Hillary will be okay.

[zabet]

1. I read that transcript recently...

I just cannot for the life of
me remember what site I read it
on.
I was raised Methodist too. ;)

It is a great interview. :thumbsup:

[DURHAM D]

2. The audio is better. Its there at cbn.

What is also interesting is all the bitch Christian comments that say "I don't believe her. She really isn't a Christian." You can't fake that kind of interview.

[zabet]

3. I only have dial-up

on an old hard-wired
rotary phone line. I
will start it tonite before
I go to sleep and it will
be loaded in the am.
It takes like an hour to
get 10 mins of a Youtube
video loaded. x(

[flordehinojos]

4. i know what you mean ... same here.

so, ususally i skip the videos. would love to see a transcript of the interview though.
i'll google it see if i come up with anything, if i do. i'll post it here if i still have edit time. otherwise, i'll reply again to your post and post it in the new reply.

[zabet]

5. Thanks!

Dial-up sucks. x(

I know I miss some great
videos because I have to
pick and choose which ones
to let load due to time.

[flordehinojos]

8. okay !!... here are a couple of links ... they have a partial transcrip of the interview

(i don't think they are a transcript of the complete interview but it gives a good idea)

this quote is in response to something David Brody asked Clinton about forgiveness ... i thought her answer was just so on target:

"Forgiveness is just a word, unless you're really confronted with the necessity of having to exercise it," Clinton said. "And then it is the hardest work you are ever called upon to do."




http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/327583.aspx

http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/328257.aspx

happy reading!

[zabet]

9. Thank you!!!

:hug: :loveya:

:yourock:


"Forgiveness is just a word, unless you're really confronted with the necessity of having to exercise it," Clinton said. "And then it is the hardest work you are ever called upon to do."

Boy does she nail that one on the head,
and I am sure she knows what she is talking
about when it comes to foregiveness.

[libbygurl]

13. She sure knows a lot about that subject from very painful experience, and I found that to be a...

...rather touching part of the interview. When she came to the US Senate, some erstwhile enemies of hers who participated in vile attacks upon her person actually approached her and asked her forgiveness for what they'd done! That was quite shocking (in a good way) to learn. In fact, I have read a few stories about how a lot of her Senate colleagues across the aisle really like and respect her, are surprised to find her personable and charming when they got to know her - which is why she's able to genuinely work with them on legislation. (Unlike some people from her own party, who have behaved worse than her purported enemies at the Senate!)

I really felt, while listening to her, that she spoke from a genuine source of faith. I appreciated her answer to the question about salvation being tied to being a Christian - I'm so glad she holds an open mind about that - saying something to the effect that, 'who are we to know God's plan in such a weighty question.' I like that humility in her.

I tell you, the more I learn about Hillary, the greater my admiration for her, the more solid my support for her becomes!

[flordehinojos]

22. libbygurl, thanks for adding these lines to the two links i was able to get...

it really brings more light into the person of hillary clinton and who she really is. i think that because she is probably somewhere on a wavelength that many of us are not ... then many come to hate her ... other of us (like those of us here in the hillary clinton support group) simply just really like her.

[libbygurl]

25. You're welcome. Yes, I know that I really like her now, having observed her...

...more closely in this primary season. My admiration for her just keeps growing. May she truly gain the party's nomination for president! This afternoon, I was just visualising that possibility becoming a reality - and I was really thrilled at the thought of it! I'm supremely confident that Hillary would truly be a fine president!

[flordehinojos]

26. interesting.

i like the thing about visualization a lot ... it is almost like a prayer, or perhaps it is a prayer.
(i too visualized her {or saw her} as the winner of the last set of primaries in which she took texas and the other two states ... i was real glad when the results came in and in saw that in fact she had won three of the four states in contention that day).

Here is a continued prayer for her success!

[flordehinojos]

24. you are welcome.

:-)

[BlackVelvet04]

16. Forgiveness like unity has to be

exercised to mean anything. That's one of the problems I have with the Obama supporters....it's all rhetoric and no actions behind it.

Forgiveness IS one of the hardest things a person can do.

[flordehinojos]

23. yes ... absolutely right

and as far as unity goes (when it comes from the obama people the only unity they are seeking is the one that they can call a "victory" for BO... nothing else will do. He is a very divisive person. And just like we got to know a lot about Prescott Bush ... i would like to know more about BO's father, his ancestry, and whether or not it is true that BO Senior had ties to, or sympathized with, the Mau Maus in Africa... that could be a significant piece of history as far as understanding BO goes, and also as far as understanding some of his penchant for manipulating facts.)

[libbygurl]

6. Oh, I wish I could share broadband with you!

Well, there aren't many worthwhile videos up on DU these days, anyway, so it's not like you're missing anything.

[zabet]

10. ....

:hug:

[libbygurl]

12. Ah, yes - those claiming she wasn't a true Christian because...

...of her support of gay rights, choice, etc. These so-called Christians who practice the most narrow-minded and petty form of the faith are beyond help. Fortunately, there were a few others who countered with more liberal (! on CBN!) comments, wondering why they kept focusing on gay and choice issues to the exclusion of all else in their Christian faith.

[DURHAM D]

15. If he has not yet -

I am certain that my friend will soon be in there gently tearing some people a new one. He is well versed in the lingo and knows what buttons to push. He is from several generations of preachers and actually preached as a child. He says that for him it was just show biz - he liked the attention.

[libbygurl]

7. Will check out the interview later when I get home.

Thanks for the heads up. I'm excited to hear what she has to say.

Am a lapsed Catholic myself, now more of an agnostic. I'm glad to hear Hill's got most of the Catholic votes, though.

[xmas74]

11. The anti-Methodist thing is a newer thing, I think.

I've noticed it in my own town recently. My daughter was informed by another child that they couldn't play with her since she attends a Methodist church. (The other child is Baptist.)

I never knew it was like that until recently.

[DURHAM D]

14. My friend (the ex S. Baptist) had made me aware

over the years of the anti-Methodist sentiment among fundamentalists and evangelicals. We have been friends for 35 years and have often discussed his former church. When I tried to explain my church upbringing I often lacked the specificity he was looking for and he generally thought I had not paid enough attention to the church dogma. I often told him the thing I remember the most was being constantly reminded that we were allowed to ask questions and challenge teachings. I don't think he believed me. He also seemed not to understand my lack of anger.

After listening to the tape this am he told me if he had been raised Methodist he would likely still have a faith based life. I laughed and said - She isn't a minister, she is trying to become the President. He said that he seriously thinks if everyone who self-identifies as Christian listened to the interview she would be elected President. He was very emotional because Hillary takes from her faith the same thing my friend's mother took from her faith. His mother left the church when the Southern Baptists began a civil war back in the 60s-70s and died not long after. My friend is gay and his older brother was gay and his mother never dodged the issue of having two gay children. This was back in the 60s in a small town in the southwest. In fact, I first met her in 1972 when she was speaking at a pride event.

Funny the way Hillary touches peoples lives.

[xmas74]

17. I was raised Pentecostal

so converting as an adult did receive more than a few raised eyebrows. (Actually, it received quite a number of dirty looks and some less than charitable responses.) I never did understand what was supposedly "wrong" with the faith and I'm still not quite sure. (At least we don't have men dressed in Santa costumes with Satan masks on at Christmas time!)

When I had my daughter I began looking into different churches. I tried what I grew up with-Pentecostalism, Assembly of God and their cousins-but I didn't feel comfortable anymore. (I'm a single mother by choice.) I tried Baptist and a few others but didn't care for them. Finally, an elderly woman invited me and my young daughter to her church. After one sermon I decided it was a good fit. (The perfect fit was actually a liberal Quaker group that I sat in on a few times. The main problem was that it was an hour and a half drive and I wanted my daughter to be able to connect with others in her community.) We've been at the same place ever since.

It's not perfect but we do like it. My daughter is now very involved-she attends a youth group, she's in the youth choir and she plays in the bell choir. She's very excited about the day when she will finally be able to travel with the teen group on mission and do "good works"-both local and abroad.

The only other church in my community that is as involved in the community itself is the Catholic Church.

[DURHAM D]

19. I am sorry about what happened to your daughter.

Hard to imagine that this sort of predjudice has gotten worse instead of better over the past 50 years in this country.

I am glad you have a church family.

[xmas74]

21. I'm glad that she has one too.

They are a fantastic group of people and they seem more concerned with offering service to the community instead of lining the coffers.

(edit-the reason it all happened was because of an engagement. The local paper published a picture of a gay couple, stating that they wanted to spend the rest of their lives' together. The pastor of the main Baptist church in my town, along with about 20 members of his congregation, wrote LTTEs stating that they would cancel their subscriptions if they ever saw that again and then gave everyone a lecture. My pastor wrote a LTTE stating that she didn't know what the fuss was about and that, as a town, we had many more things to worry about. Then it became war-Baptists, AoG, Nazarenes, etc against the Methodists and the Episcopalians, with the children in the middle.)

[libbygurl]

18. Oh, forgot to thank you for this enlightening interview!

I am really feeling more and more affection for Hillary, the more I get to know her. Also feel more protective of her. What an amazing woman. How can so many continue with such appalling cruelty towards her? It just astounds me, this over-the-top hatred of a woman who has done nothing but forge ahead against so many obstacles to accomplish tasks she's set for herself, in service to others. She is no saint, she's not perfect, I have a few issues with some things she's done, but by God, what has she actually done to these people to merit such unhinged attacks? You'd think she was worse than Bush II, the way she's unrelentingly vilified by these creatures - even on the so-called left.

[DURHAM D]

20. You are welcome.

What I liked about it was that it was not political - she was just speaking from her heart. It is not often we hear an unedited conversation with such a well-known person. I too have great affection for Hil.

I first met Hil back in the mid-70s but I had already been hearing about her for years. My X was, like Hillary, one of the early women making a mark in the legal/academic field in the 60s. There were so few of them back then and they all knew each other, networked, served on the same boards, reviewed each others articles and supported each other.

I feel protective of her also. The thugs who beat up on her seem completely bereft of judgment and humanity. That includes members of the media. The people who drive our national discourse act more like bad prison guards then decent human beings.