KOEB 10/17

[crispini]

I'm here waaaay early.... but why not!?! :loveya: :hi:



C'mere, ya'll. :evilgrin:

[Patsy Stone]

1. Happy you're here, early or not.

:loveya::loveya: KO.

Hey, post a picture, wouldja? :hi:

[crispini]

2. Just did. :D

I'm excited, I get to be here! :loveya: How are you doing?

[Patsy Stone]

3. Muuuuch better. :) Thanks! n/t

[Olney Blue]

4. Hi Crispi and Patsy and all......

:kick:

I'm ready to kick up my heels with Keith tonight!

[Patsy Stone]

6. Making popcorn?

:popcorn:

[Olney Blue]

13. How did you guess?

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

I made enough for everyone!

Did you bring the cocktails?

[Patsy Stone]

18. With little umbrellas!

Well, flowers anyway.

[Olney Blue]

22. Some of those look like Kool-aide!

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[WolverineDG]

23. great!! foo foo drinks!!

thanks pats!!

::clinkies:: bottoms up!!!

dg

[Patsy Stone]

32. Girl Drink drunks. :)

Hey, dg! He looks good tonight in his grey suit.

[WolverineDG]

80. yes, he sure does

:)

dg

[crispini]

34. Ah, delightful

:toast::toast::toast::toast:

[Gogi]

122. I'll have one of those pretty blue girlie drinkies ....

you must give me the recipe for it, the Cards are depressing me.;(

[Patsy Stone]

125. It did look good.

I'm always fascinated by blue drinks. They're up 2-1, right now, so what's wrong with that? Let's hope they hold on to play another day. :toast:

[Gogi]

127. Think I'll jinx them if I watch?

What inning is it?

[Patsy Stone]

128. Now it's the top of the 7th.

SL has a guy on first.

[Gogi]

129. Ookay, maybe I'll check 'em out.

Thanks.:o

[Patsy Stone]

135. Woo Hoo!

That was some lovely baseball! Congrats! :woohoo:

[Gogi]

139. I always chicken out and end up missing the best games.

Well, at any rate, they won! :toast: :bounce: :woohoo: :applause: :patriot:

[crispini]

7. Howdy!

Keef looks goooood, doesn't he? :loveya:

[Olney Blue]

10. Yes, and he is in his element with this political bloodsport!

:loveya:

[WolverineDG]

26. mmmmm gray

my fave.

he's enjoying this story so much, i think he's getting ready for fitzmas. :)

dg

[Patsy Stone]

5. Judy looks good for 57.

That's all I'm sayin'.

Also, if you believe Judy doesn't recall who her source was, raise your hands up high. Yep, that's what I thought, no hands.

[crispini]

8. Yup.

WHIG gets mentioned! Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet!

O o o, this is gonna be good.

[Patsy Stone]

11. Howard seems like he actually believing there's a problem.

I'm so pleased. Good for you, Howard. Welcome to our world.

[RevCheesehead]

37. LOL.

It sure took them a while, didn't it?

Hi, Pats :hi:

[bleever]

9. Top post in Latest says some has flipped in the White House!

I can hardly keep up, but I know where it's going.

:evilgrin:

[Patsy Stone]

12. Down?

I think that's the answer.

:hi: :popcorn:

[bleever]

19. There is a fly in the alphabet soup, and all the letters have got to be

thrown out: PNAC, WHIP, OSP, APIPAC.


It's all about the war. I think the election theft being uncovered will be dessert.

:hi:

[Patsy Stone]

21. It would be sweet.

I want my Blue State back. :)

[bleever]

47. "Don't it Make Your Red State Blue", sung by Crystal Gale.

:)

[Olney Blue]

28. And don't forget W!

[bleever]

36. Hey, you're right! And we could probably add GOP, since DeLay

and Frist got their own circuses going on.

[Botany]

38. Fun fact

Google PNAC and then American Enterprise Institute
look @ the address they are the same.

:bounce:

[bleever]

45. I should have included AEI too. But I didn't realize they shared an

address with PNAC!

That IS a fun fact.

[Botany]

48. they are the same ......

..... ow my dad worked for AEI teaching in the 1980s on weekends.

[RevCheesehead]

50. what did he teach?

Hi, Botany. Have a nice date last week? :hi:

[Botany]

59. Governmental Structure to federal employees

He is retired from OSU in poly science (still thinks that the election
was not stolen and Ohio was clean ..... :grr:)

Fine thank you ..... later then I thought but it was OK no cuffs. :rofl:

[RevCheesehead]

66. Oh-oh - is he a republican?

No cuffs, eh? Glad to hear you didn't get arrested. That's a killer for trying to get a second date.

[Patsy Stone]

53. FOX, RNC, HCA,

WH, POTUS...

[crispini]

14. SWEET!

Oh, I can't wait to get my grubby little paws on Fitzgerald's indictment!

Judy Judy Judy. You lie like a bad rug.

[bleever]

31. It's all gonna come apart. Even though I have a feeling that some

people involved are actually afraid of Cheney, once you've gotten the story from twenty different angles, the picture gets pretty clear.

Let the noose tighten!

[Patsy Stone]

15. Yay, Arianna!

:woohoo:

"I forgot.."

[gkhouston]

148. Why do I get the feeling...

that a well-placed indictment or two might improve her memory? :freak:

[Olney Blue]

16. Ariana says Judith was too close to her sources.

Says the administration used the NYT and Miller.

[crispini]

17. OMG, Judy "way too close to her sources!"

Referencing the "aspens" letter!!!! :rofl:

OMG, Huffington's SO laying it out!

[Patsy Stone]

20. They turn in clusters, you know...

OMG! How great was she? How good of KO to have her on! :loveya:

[crispini]

25. You know...

at the moment, my personal life really kind of stinks. But this case is most definitely making me happy. Here's hoping Fitz drags this whole stinking mess out into the sunlight for everyone to see!

[Patsy Stone]

29. Elliot Ness with a Harvard Law degree.

Let's up pray. Sorry you've been having a bad go. :hug: I poured girly drinks upthread. Help yourself. :toast:

[crispini]

42. Thanks!

:toast:

It's mostly job stuff. The usual hassles. I shouldn't let it bug me but it does. My office is :crazy: right now.

[Olney Blue]

39. I'm sorry about your personal problems-

:hug:

[crispini]

43. Thanks!

:hug: It'll get better....

[bleever]

49. It isn't Botany, is it?

:evilgrin:

[crispini]

55. LOL!

[bleever]

65. Tweety had Amy Goodman! I was amazed. And I like Arianna

too. Give it to her, girls!

[Patsy Stone]

75. Yes, I saw Amy on Tweety.

I like that Chron (Saunders) reporter too. "I read Libby's book, it didn't make sense either."

Also, some things in that article "just didn't work for me." :rofl:

[bleever]

113. Debra Saunders is on the RW talking points about 85% of the time,

but there's that other 15% where she doesn't, and where sometimes some decency shows through, that makes her not seem beyond redemption. And she's married to a liberal, just like Mary Matalin.

[Patsy Stone]

116. Had no idea, but I did enjoy what she had to say.

Is it another example of RW shills jumping ship all ovah the place? Or just, as you say, chance.

Speaking of which, Carville's been kinda silent lately. Maybe I've just been missing him on the shows, but something tells me he's trying to avoid Mary questions.

Oh, and I think Cruella Harris and Mary share the same stylist.

[WolverineDG]

24. hiya crispy!!

glad you could make it!!! :hi:

dg

[crispini]

44. Hi WolverineDG!

:hi: I'm happy to be here! :D

[Botany]

27. Was that a shoe that just dropped?

"vice presidential involvement"

:popcorn: from DU today!


Cheney, Libby & Miller - all in Jackson Hole, August 2003
Edited on Mon Oct-17-05 12:59 PM by dave29



http://www.jhzone.com/viewinfo.cfm?ObjectID=2A504341-A7... (this is the current page... to see the original do a google search for "cheney" "august 2003" "jackson hole")

The incident marks the second time in two years Blackhawks have created a stir in Jackson Hole. Helicopters transporting Cheney around the region on vacation in August 2003 landed on the Puzzleface Ranch in an area protected by a conservation easement, drawing criticism from some residents. The area is home to to nesting osprey and other waterfowl, including trumpeter swans.

http://darrelplant.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/10/16/14...

In answer, I told the grand jury about my last encounter with Mr. Libby. It came in August 2003, shortly after I attended a conference on national security issues held in Aspen, Colo. After the conference, I traveled to Jackson Hole, Wyo. At a rodeo one afternoon, a man in jeans, a cowboy hat and sunglasses approached me. He asked me how the Aspen conference had gone. I had no idea who he was.
"Judy," he said. "It's Scooter Libby." "

Amazing coinkidink

[RevCheesehead]

30. "just like New Coke - it's New Harriet"

Hi, everyone! :hi:

[Patsy Stone]

35. That was good snark.

Still Harriet Miers. The re-launch. :)

:hi:

[bleever]

56. Does this mean they'll change their minds and go back to old Harriet?

Or would that be Harriet Classic?

:hi:

[crispini]

58. Meet the new Harriet!

Same as the old Harriet!

[RevCheesehead]

60. I dunno - I drink Pepsi.

:) How are ya, Bleev? :hi:

[bleever]

73. I'm good. How are you?

I was a Cubs fan, but I'm into seeing the White Sox in the Series.

[RevCheesehead]

82. Feeling better.

Got a major project out of the way, and am slowly getting caught up to, oh - about last May. :)

I don't do baseball, but it's always nice to see someone in who hasn't been there in a while.

(Sorry, Keith. You can still love on baseball, and teach me whatever you wish. I'm a good listener.)

[Gogi]

121. I'd like to watch the Cards/Astros game tonight...

but it's just too painful! At least the ChiSox are in the World Series! Beat the Astros, pale sox!!!!!!!!!!






:yourock: KO:loveya:

[crispini]

33. The re-launch of Harriet Miers.

Like New Coke! :rofl:

[crispini]

40. Ferrets!

Where's CC! I haven't seen her around in awhile....

[RevCheesehead]

46. Yup - a Ferrettessa story.

She's got a crazy work schedule, but I think she's still able to catch the late show.

Hi, Crispi - it's a great day for Democracy, isn't it? :hi:

[crispini]

62. Hi Rev!

I think this is the week where we find out about indictments or an extension.

PLEASE let it be indictments!!!! :bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

[RevCheesehead]

67. Hey, I'm OK with an extension -

as long as it ends up in the same place.

[crispini]

83. Yes, that would be fine.

I'm all for giving Fitz the time he needs to do his work.

I just feel like a lil kid seeing all of these really exciting presents wrapped up under the tree and NOT KNOWING WHEN I'M GONNA GET TO OPEN 'EM!

Oh, it's beginning to look a lot like Fitzmas!

[RevCheesehead]

105. Yeah - the anticipation is killing me.

[crispini]

106. Exactly. Hopefully the PDF of the indictment will be posted quickly.

At which point I intend to print it out, hovering over the printer eagerly with a highlighter.

It's all SO interesting!

[CC]

133. I tape, usually a sleep

by the time the late show comes on. I would almost say the ferret story was a shout out to the Ferretessa cept Keithy didn't sound like he was too sure about the little beasties. Then again they haven't been legal in NYC that long and maybe he just hasn't met one.

[CC]

132. She has been in the dungeons.

Crazy work hours and all. My boss calls it the dungeons. I tape the show and try to watch live Friday nights. Cept last Friday my internet broke. When I am around I am running the photo contest for this month. Teach me to take pics of bluebird fledglings finding the birdbath for the first time. :rofl: At the rate work is going I may be back about Dec. 23 when winter break starts. Though the good news (I think) is my boss put me in for a $1 an hour raise. In this economy figure it is a good thing for the boss to even try. Course not planning on it since it goes through the admin and well in my state our schools are the wicked step children to Gov. Whiner and they get beat because he didn't get his slot machine. Maybe the horse racing industry here might try to back a Dem. next time.

[crispini]

142. There you are!

Glad you didn't miss the ferret reference! :hi:

[Patsy Stone]

41. OMG with the dolphins and the pregnant women.

I guess anything's worth a shot. :crazy:

[Patsy Stone]

51. We have a story by Michelle Kosinski

who KO was ripping (as was Matt Lauer, of course) for paddling in 2 ft of water. How do you think he feels about that?

[crispini]

52. Donor fatigue...

Yeah, I can kind of see why people are going to hang on to their dough. HEAT, FOOD and GAS this winter are going to be priorities for many here.

Why not get it from the freaking oil companies since they are making a 250% profit? :crazy:

[AntiFascist]

57. Exactly what I've been thinking....

and also they add to the global warming that is making the storms worse!

[crispini]

69. Exactamente, you are quite right!

Hola! :hi: Don't think we've crossed paths in the group before although I know I've run into you elsewhere on the board. :hi:

[AntiFascist]

77. Hi Crispini.....

I've been a quiet KO fan from when you used to post threads on the General forum. Seems like the rest of the MSM is following in his footsteps.

:beer: :popcorn: :hi:

[Patsy Stone]

81. Glad you came by!

The Kool-Aid is wearing off.

[crispini]

92. That's the truth!

KO is Da Man! :loveya:

[RevCheesehead]

54. Anyone else having connection problems?

Damn thing is running slow on me. :(

[AntiFascist]

61. I keep getting blocked from DU...

by my Norton Utilities or something.

[Olney Blue]

63. Yes, me too.

When the stories get hot, the DU connection gets cold.

[crispini]

64. Not me.

But I do seem to be missing some of the avatars... :shrug:

[RevCheesehead]

70. Good - then I won't take it personally.

I think DU should go to Level 2 when Keith is on. :loveya:

[WolverineDG]

100. just checked

no level alert so no clue as to why DU is acting wonky :shrug:

dg

[Patsy Stone]

84. Slow and the avatars are hit and miss.

Here's the Bark Mitzvah story. Oy.

[bleever]

68. Is that real hair on the top of Mr. Styx's head?

And from the first word he spoke, I also heard "Laaaaa-day! From the moment I fooooooouuuuuund you. Stan-ding, wo-wo-wo-wo-wo all alone..."

[crispini]

71. LOL!

Is this the ONLY White Sox fan they could dig up?



Edit: HE DID IT! HE DID THE MR. ROBATO SCHTICK! :rofl:

[Patsy Stone]

103. I asked the same question below.

LOL. Surely, there must be at least one more? Heck, if it'll help, I'll count myself. I love an underdog.

[Muffstser]

72. I kept hearing "Domo Ori Gato, Mr. Roboto!!!"

Oh, bad music flashbacks...

[Gogi]

126. "Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto"

Thank you very much, Mr. Roboto

[Patsy Stone]

78. Is he the only White Sox fan in the world?

Come Sail Away!

[Muffstser]

74. Chewie's a Yank!

Gotta love it.

[crispini]

76. I was thinking about going out there for voter registration

and seeing if I could sign Chewie up to vote -- but I couldn't take off work. :P

[RevCheesehead]

87. Keith speaks Wookie!

Who knew? :shrug:

Hi, Muffy. :hi:

[bleever]

109. A piece of KO trivia: he's actually part Wookie. It's where he gets

the eyebrows from.

:thumbsup:

[Patsy Stone]

111. Ouch.

LOL.

[crispini]

112. And the height!

:rofl:

[RevCheesehead]

124. "My father was a wookie."

Makes sense, doesn't it? :)

[gkhouston]

146. and his mother smelled of elderberries? n/t

[RevCheesehead]

155. Now THAT's funny!

[SharonRB]

79. I'm here way late

Just got back from dinner with my sister-in-law who is visiting from California. I'm taping and will watch when it's over.

How's the show been?

[crispini]

85. Howdy Sharon!

:hi: The first story was COOL! I'm sure somebody will post the video from the Ariana Huffington segment. Well worth watching.

[SharonRB]

96. I'm watching the tape now

Sounds like a great show from reading the thread.

[Patsy Stone]

86. Please take note of the owners of the dog with the Bark Mitzvah.

This is where I live. These are my people. :)

[RevCheesehead]

88. Oy.

Did they make the dog bark in Hebrew?

[Patsy Stone]

91. They knew he was Jewish because he liked brisket and matzo balls.

OMG. :)

[Olney Blue]

95. Oy! Patsy, better have another glass from above post.

[SharonRB]

97. Oy gevalt!

[WolverineDG]

89. great, sharon!

indictment-watch, judy miller, oh it's getting good.....fitzmas, fitzmas time is near.....

dg

[SharonRB]

93. I'm watching now

I saw the last few minutes before it was over -- muzzle tov -- I loved it!

[SharonRB]

98. I hear jingle bells in the distance

They're getting closer and closer, though.

[crispini]

99. Yippee!

It's almost Fitzmas!

[RevCheesehead]

90. Columbo - named for the detective or the yogurt?

These are the questions we are dying to know. :eyes:

Poodles always look like this guy: :scared:

[Patsy Stone]

94. Poor thing had to be on national TV, in a tallis...

How will he ever hold his head up at the puppy park again? Mind you, I have a feeling this dog never sets foot outside the condo. :)

[SharonRB]

101. I listened the first time around

I'll have to watch now on the tape.

[crispini]

102. Ooo! Just posted, ya'll download this before we DU'ers slam it!

Profile of Fitz:
http://www.apfn.org/movies/pbs_fitzgerald_profile.wmv

[Patsy Stone]

108. When did this air?

The guy at the end said his job was up in late September/early October, but we're almost in late October. I hope this is repackaged footage from last year. It did give me a warm fuzzy feeling, however, seeing his dedication and determmination.

Throw another stoolie on the fire. Let's roast chestnuts. :toast:

[crispini]

110. Here's the OP

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5086697

August 8th, the poster says.

[Patsy Stone]

114. Okay, I found this.

"Unlike elected officials, the end of Fitzgerald's first term as U.S. attorney does not necessarily mean he must leave office on that same day. Although Fitzgerald's term officially ends in late October, if he is not re-appointed by then he remains on the job until Bush nominates another prosecutor and the Senate confirms that nominee."

http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/special_packages/election2004/12239742.htm

Can all this then just (gulp!) stop in the middle? Hopefully this will all be concluded soon and the re-apointment will be moot. Even so, if the * Administration chooses someone else to take over :scared: then I think maybe there will be riots in the street. At least I'll be rioting.

[crispini]

115. Well, we are talking about two different jobs here.

The special prosecutor's task and the Chicago position.

So it might not be the same thing.....

[Patsy Stone]

117. I don't know what position, if any, you need to hold

to serve as a special prosecutor.

Maybe I'm on pins and needles, a bit jittery with anticipation, and I don't want any weird left hooks? Huh? Huh? Didja ever thing about that? Huh? :)

If there was a nail-biting smiley, I'd be really happy right now. Where's seito?

[crispini]

118. I don't know either.

It's just all a bit too- too- right now. I'm totally like: :bounce:!

[Patsy Stone]

119. I find I'm saving a lot on coffee. :)

[bunny planet]

104. Hello ladies.

I watched the show. I'm just too keyed up about Plamegate to even think about anything else. Great show as usual. I really enjoyed the interview with the Styx musician/ White Sox fan, and Keith did too, big smiles. Ariana was great too, huffingtonpost.com has had great coverage of the treasonous WH and Judy Miller.

I'm meeting a fellow DUer from my town on Friday because we are both Plamaholics. Hopefully by then we'll be discussing the revelations of the already handed down indictments and not still discussing our theories as to what is going to happen. I can not stand the suspense a minute longer.

[crispini]

107. HuffPo has been the best place to read the coverage.

I'm just SO stoked.

Did you see this "cast of characters"? It's great, very comprehensive.

http://www.thinkprogress.org/leak-scandal

[bunny planet]

120. Yes crispi luv, I have that little page bookmarked and practically

memorized. Ain't it a thing of beauty?

[crispini]

123. It's all so ... so....

So FREAKING COOL!

I wish there was a similar score card on all the reporters involved. Now, did Tweety testify or not? I've heard different things.

[bunny planet]

130. I think I read that he did, after all, he was the one Rove said Plame was

'fair game' to, an incriminating remark if there ever was one. Then again, it was said to Tweety after Novak had already outed her, but speaks volumes about the mean spirited excuse for doing so. Her husband crossed us, she's fair game. What a bunch of criminals, it is just mind boggling. I am a bit worried after reading a diary over at Kos about what happened to Lawrence Walsh after he brought Iran Contra indictments. However, this fiasco reminds me much more of the Nixon downfall than the Raygun scandal. I think Fitz will have learned some valuable lessons from both Watergate and Iran Contra and is prepared for whatever they'll throw at him once he indicts.

[Patsy Stone]

131. I can't find any proof he did, or didn't

http://kingubu.dailykos.com/story/2005/10/13/173452/25

This is a pretty comprehensive look at his, Russert's and Andrea Mitchell's role in the whole thing. Maybe he did, early on, and signed some waiver, but when I google it, nothing comes up. Apparently if he has, he hasn't mentioned it to anyone. Most un-Tweety-like behavior, if you ask me.

:hi::popcorn:

[bunny planet]

134. Hi Patsela.

I think I'm gonna have a parrakeet if these indictments don't come down tommorrow. Please let it be Fitzmas already.

[Patsy Stone]

136. I know

I asked for a nail-biting smiley. :)

[bunny planet]

138. oh, that would be soooooo perfect. We don't even have a praying smilie

do we?

[RevCheesehead]

140. I'd love to add this one:

And I'd like to make this one my avatar:

[bunny planet]

145. Oh Cheez, that avatar is priceless. I love it. I think there is a way to

do that, I just forget how (making that little guy an avatar I mean, haven't forgotten how to do anything else, that I know of).

[gkhouston]

147. didn't Sparky give how-to instructions on how to make an

avatar months ago? I'm thinking it was back when I had jury duty, which was before my husband had jury duty, so it would have been in the spring of this year... maybe right around the time we opened the clubhouse? Got a bad case of Can't Remember Shit today... :banghead:

on edit: I love the avatar, too, but I don't think you can have moving avatars...

[bunny planet]

149. Yes he did. That's how I finally made my custom avatar.

I haven't changed it again because I forgot how.......
Oh Sparky, where are you, we miss you, we need new avatars and cocktails. Come back, come back, wherever you are.

Actually there are several DUers(Carolab comes to mind)with moving avatars. I'm sure it's more complicated than just a still one.

[RevCheesehead]

156. Well, I tried uploading it...

but all I see is a red "x". :(

Maybe I'll try linking thru Photobucket.

[bunny planet]

157. Ask Carolab how he/she got their moving avatar?

[crispini]

141. Great diary post, Patsy!

Yes, the whole "Wilson's wife is fair game" quote is IN WILSON'S BOOK and I find it very hard to believe that Tweety has NOT testified -- but he hasn't said squat about it.

There isn't enough :popcorn: in the WORLD for all this!

[Patsy Stone]

143. No, there isn't!

And I'm gonna need more dental floss if I keep eating all that popcorn. :)

[gkhouston]

144. given Fitz's reputation for thoroughness, he must have.

It's been said that Tweety is the one who warned Wilson that his wife was considered "fair game", no? Whether or not that conversation ever took place, it's been so widely rumored that it happened that I think Fitz would have wanted to talk to Tweety based on that alone, just to see if it was true. Because if it is, I'd certainly want to know how Tweety got the impression that Plame was "fair game" and just what else Tweety might know about the Plame case.

[Patsy Stone]

150. He said it came directly from Rove.

And I think he probably did testify too, although I find it strange that he hasn't said anything about it. In that Kos diary I posted, it postulates that he's keeping it silent so he can write a book.

[WolverineDG]

151. doesn't crispy's new boyfriend host hardball

when the topic is plamegate? i thought that was the reason (what matthews said he was told) for the switch whenever they had to cover that story.

dg

[crispini]

152. No, Tweety's been covering the story himself a lot recently.

The book theory is interesting. I wouldn't be surprised!

[WolverineDG]

153. me either

everyone who can will be making big bucks off of this scandal.

dg

[Patsy Stone]

154. Nope.

Tweety's still talking about it.

I think David was hosting while Chris was away. I don't know if he was on vacation or on location (I didn't pay too much attention).

[RevCheesehead]

137. Steve Martin's 2 words?

"Excuuuuuuuuuse Me!"