Wow....who started this group? / Roll call thread

[TroubleMan]

And I get the first post.

I'm a white male married to a black woman. We've been married for about 2-1/2 years, and have a 6 year old son. Also, her other son (my stepson) is 13.

I never try to see people as part of a racial or ethic group, so this has led me to date many women of about any color you could think of (not anymore, because I'm married, of course). I never had a preference as far as race goes when it comes to relationships.

Anyway, we've never had any problems with anybody not accepting our marriage - my family is very open minded.

[patdem]

1. bliss eternal suggested and created this group...and I am so thankful

in fact I PM'd bliss to let him/her? know it was on line to give him/her a chance to be the first to post, but many people are traveling this time of year.

I am a 55 year old white female whose SO for the last 14 years is a black male. I spent the years from the late 60's till I met him thinking that racism was all but gone from this country...boy was I wrong! I lived in Rhode Island in the 80's and they were certainly far more progressive than here in VA...

Hope to see you around here in this group!

PS, don't forget to add it to your Personal Favorite list!

[GOPFighter]

2. I'm a white male married to an African American

This is my second marriage, her first. We've been married for seven years but dated for a number of years before getting married. We live in suburban Washington DC where interracial couples are a dime a dozen. Just a few years ago we had 4 black/white interracial couples just in our block alone!

We've had virtually no negative reactions to our relationship. The funnest part of our relationship was learning about our prejudices and the preconceived notions we both had about our opposite races.

[patdem]

3. Really, I know I have learned how very subtle prejudice is...

He and I went to a book store, he was looking for a specific book, he was watched,and I was asked if I could be helped. He was NEVER asked if he could be helped. Sometimes it might be a man/woman thing, but it is hard to devine?

[GOPFighter]

13. Absolutely!

We went into a souvenir shop in Montreal (of all places) and the clerks followed my wife everywhere she went, and ignored all the white customers alone (and my wife was probably the best dressed and classiest looking person in the store). She left the store fuming.

[MarianJack]

65. When We were engaged,...

...we went to a department store to pay our bills. They took my check and made her pay cash.

I gave them a VERY hard time about that! Then they made me start to pay cash, too. We cancelled our accounts.

Unfortunately, there have been times when my in-laws have had to ask me to handle things for them. I refer to it as "invoking my caucausianhood", and it REALLY pisses me off when I have to do it!

BTW, what pisses me off is the racism of others! I love my in-laws and would happily do anything for them.

[TroubleMan]

7. Yep DC, Northern Virginia, and suburban Maryland have a lot of interracial

couples.

I was in Quanitco for a long time, and that's where I met my wife. Also, in that area, I almost exclusively dated interracially. Not by design....it just happened that way. I've dated hispanic, black, white, and oriental women in that area, and it's pretty much the norm. With a few exceptions there are no suprised or dirty looks.

[kwassa]

33. Another from the DC Suburbs ...

Yes, another white male married to a black woman, here in Maryland!.

Married 6 years, together almost 10 years.

[Chovexani]

4. Hi everyone

I'm a black female dating a white male for going on six years now (he posts on DU as happyasaclam so say hi if you see him:)). The cultural differences have another dimension to them due to the fact that I'm American and he is Australian. My dating history has spanned all genders and races so my family is not really fazed by it (my Mom loves him), and his family is cool with it with the exception of his mom who kind of has freeper-like tendencies. The "M" word has been discussed lightly but nothing very serious. I'm wondering just how cool everyone involved will be if it comes to that. Should be interesting. :P

Anyways glad to see this group is up and looking forward to some nice discussion... :hi:

[Swamp Rat]

5. Way'at y'all!

My life is all about interracial, though I personally believe race is just a construct.

:hi:

[knowbody0]

6. hey all

good to be here.

[judaspriestess]

8. Hi ya everyone

we are going to have fun in here.
I'm Hispanic and my man is a cutie country white boy.
I have so been into other ethnicities since high school.
I don't think I would ever date another Hispanic guy again.

[knowbody0]

12. may i ask why?

im indian irish with three biological kids. 9 years ago i adopted 3 hispanic siblings agedd 4,4&5. my son is 13 now and amazing.

[judaspriestess]

68. I am just not attracted to Hispanic men

for the most part. Hey the ones on the novelas are hot, hot, hot but I think its just a case of opposites attract for me....

[bliss_eternal]

9. Hi Everyone!

:hi:

So sorry I am late to the party! I'm just so happy to see all of you and to know we are a group now! Whoo hooooo!
Bliss

[bigwillq]

15. Thanks for all the hard work you did

to get this group going!

[Lisa0825]

10. Hi! here's my beautiful 3 year old niece....

Happy to see the group up and running!:-)



My brother has three white children from his first marriage, his wife has three black children from her first marriage, and lil Camryn is their first together. Total modern day Brady Bunch!LOL!

I am another one who tends to date outside my race/culture/nationality. I just find people of different backgrounds more interesting... I like to learn about other people's cultures.

[bigwillq]

18. Awww..she's so cute!

:)

[Chovexani]

24. Wow what a cutie!

Such pinchable little cheeks! What a little ham too, LOL

[cmf]

11. Hi everybody!

I'm a Black woman married to a White man (who is also a DUer, but infrequently posts). We've been married a little over 4 years. We haven't had many issues - our families are cool and we live in an accepting part of the country (Washington state).

:hi:

[bigwillq]

14. What's up everybody?!

So glad that the powers that be (and some wonderful DUers) were able to get this group started!


A bit about me:


I'm Will. I'm 26 years old. Italian-American. I live in Connecticut. I am a sports writer for a newspaper.


I'm been in an interracial relationship with my b/f for 3 1/2 years.
He is Puerto Rican. His is also a tad older than me, he's 37. He has a daughter, who is 9 and he also has custody of his nephew, who is 6. They both live with him.

He and I owe a condo together and split my time between there and at my folks house. It's easier for me that way with my work commute.

I've always been attracted to people of different races and cultures. I enjoy living about the different ways people live and the way they've been brought up.

I have yet to have any problems with being in an interracial relationship and a gay interracial relationship on top of that!



Hope to chat to all off you again soon!

Peace
-Will

[knowbody0]

16. hey will

sounds like a life full of good energies

[bigwillq]

17. Hello! Life is very good!

I try to look on the positive side of things. This year has been rough in a lot of ways but life is what you make of it.:hi:

[livinginphotographs]

19. White male dating black woman.

Going on 2 1/2 years (our anniversary is in June, I'll get smacked if I don't remember that).

Also in VA, like a lot of the posters on here. Never had many problems, except when the Sons of the Confederate Veterans decided to march in front of my house in Richmond one day. The problem was more with me wanting to kick their asses than with her. ;)

[Champ]

20. Well I did spend 5 months with a black woman recently

I'm white, skin color was definately not an issue in our relationship at all. Though she disappeared recently :shrug:

[Champ]

21. Nevermind - she reappeared

:loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

[patdem]

22. LOL, had an extended stay at the Department Store, did she???

That is too funny! You must not be so insecure!! :loveya:

[Champ]

23. Not exactly

She stayed at a transitional living community from the last week of November to mid-December. Thing is from the 7th to the 20th I did not see or talk to her(we tried calling each other a few times but no luck). I didn't see her alot at the place because it was all female with tight visiting hours. The rent was high so she worked several jobs throughout the week, from early in the morning to the evening, visiting time ended at 7pm. The 18th rolls along, I try calling, one of the girls say she no longer stayed there. I have no idea how to get a hold of her because I don't know where she moved to, that is what I mean when I said she disappeared. Anyways yesturday, I hear a light knock at the door at night. I knew it was her because my friends pound on the door. :crazy: I was so happy to see her, that night and practically the entire day Tuesday has been wonderful, just like old times. :)

on edit: I learned she found a place to stay with a couple friends, I need to find something better then a temp or 2-4 hour a week job so I can eliminate the distance we live away from each other SOON!

[patdem]

25. WOW, sorry I made light of the situation!

I have no idea what a 'transitional living community' is, and why IS the rent so high?

And good luck to you finding better work in the bush** economy! I hope you can outdo the majoritory out there searching for work!

P.S. I am glad you have finally gotten together and hope it lasts!

[Champ]

26. It's ok, I wasn't bothered by the comment

Thanks for the good luck, I hope I can find a solid job with decent pay. It will make things so much easier and I hope it lasts as well. Good luck in your relationship, seeing couples who are happy makes me happy as well.

[anonymousdemocrat]

27. Hi Champ!

:hi:

[anonymousdemocrat]

28. I'm a white girl in love with a Japanese-American guy.

And we've had some interesting conversations about what it means to be a minority, and the assumptions people make about someone based on his/her appearance.

Also, to what extent he identifies with being Japanese, when he's never actually lived in the country; and how, often he doesn't like being identified with things that are Japanese by others, because often, in that case, they aren't seeing him as an individual, but a stereotype.

a.d.

[shanti]

29. greetings!

had to regain my star to post here....:)

let me introduce myself: i'm a 49 yr old divorced ww who is singlehandedly raising a black biracial teen son. i'm not currently involved in an ir, but have been dating interracially since 1987. i live in california where there are MANY people like me and my son, and i like it this way. our community also has lots of biracial kids too; i would never raise my son in an all-white community.

my extended family is/has been involved ir/interculturally too. sis is married to a mexican american guy, her son is married to a korean woman, and my own son is married to a lovely armenian girl.

i'm glad to be here!

[xultar]

30. I'm glad to here that you took the plunge. So many are afraid to

take the plunge!

Hopefully time will ease the conflicts others feel when it comes to interracial and interfaith dating.

I'm the UN of love. I think I've dated just about every kind on the map.

[bliss_eternal]

39. I love the way you phrased it xultar--

the UN of love! That's so cool! :)

[legally blonde]

31. Hi everyone

I'm a white woman dating a middle eastern man (with the added challenge of different religions). We met in college and have been together for 2 1/2 years. We're planning on getting married in 2007 (after we both have graduated from professional school). For the most part, our families have been accepting of our relationship.

Big thanks to Bliss-eternal for starting this group! :hi:

[patdem]

32. Yours is a very difficult road...for many reasons.

I would say that 20 years ago a Middle Eastern relationship would not have been difficult, except for the religion. Now you have the double whammy...9/11 AND the religious difference. I know I have looked differently at Middle Easterners...not because I suspect them, but because I notice them and WANT to say "I know people in America look at you with suspicion, I want you to know I respect you and will fight for your rights as I would ANY American"...of course I would never say that, but I still look, and I know they know I am looking, and they have NO idea what is in my mind. I am JUST SO FRUSTRATED what America has done to the Middle Eastern community in America...It really could mirror what happened to the Jews in Germany...maybe not yet..and hopefully never...but I fear for our Middle Eastern countrymen!

After all that gloom and doom...I want to say :hi:

[legally blonde]

37. Hi patdem

I know how you feel--I feel the same way when I see other Middle Easterners. My boyfriend's parents have endured some mean comments and looks from their neighbors, especially after 9/11. It's very disheartening sometimes.

[bliss_eternal]

40. Welcome, legally blonde!

So glad to have you here!
:hi:

[southlandshari]

48. sorry I'm late!

Southlandshari here, married 11 years to a man I had to travel halfway around the world to find and once I did I knew there way no way I'd ever let him go! He's a Palestinian, raised in Jersualem, and we met there when I was working for an international NGO. We have one child, a five-year-old daughter, and are contemplating having one more, but the jury is still out!

Our relationship works for a lot of reasons. One of the biggest factors in our success - I believe - is the fact that I lived in his country, spoke his language and knew his family and friends very well before we got married. There were no surprises for me later on in our life together. I know not everyone can go and live abroad for a while just to have a litmus test for marraige, but anything you can do to get to know who a potential spouse is and where they come from is incredibly important when considering a marraige that will cross national, cultural, racial and/or religious boundaries.

Before I met my husband, I dated both black and white men. I am very excited about this forum and learning and sharing with all of you! I'm also happy to engage in private discussions with anyone involved with a Middle Eastern and/or Muslim man - it is not for the faint of heart!

[grace0418]

34. I am a white female married to an Asian-American

we've been together since 1988, married since 1997. We live in Chicago so I never have any problems. Although we've gotten stares in the suburbs and on vacation. Whatever.

[DeposeTheBoyKing]

35. I'm a white female married to a Pakistani man

He became a US citizen in 1999. We've been together for 11 years, having been married for 9 1/2. I've embraced his culture very thoroughly, converting to Islam (my choice), wearing shalwar kameez at the appropriate times and learning to coddle guests. He, in turn, is pretty "westernized." He's been in the US since late 1990. He's a psychiatrist, and I'm a law student. He has assiduously encouraged me to pursue my education and supports me 100%.

He has generally been treated pretty well while we're together, but sometimes I feel that when we're in stores salespersons speak only to me, as though he doesn't speak English, when he speaks better English than most Americans.

[legally blonde]

36. Hi DeposeTheBoyKing

my boyfriend and I have experienced similar situations while in restaurants, stores, banks, etc., although he speaks perfect English (he has lived in the US since he was 10).
I am also in law school (2L) and my boyfriend is in dental school. PM me if you ever need to gripe about classes, professors, etc. :hi:

[bliss_eternal]

42. Hi DeposetheBoyking and welcome!

:hi:

So happy that you've decided to join us!

I am very sorry to hear that your husband is sometimes treated differently by salespeople than you. I recall a report on television dealing with this issue to a degree.

I don't recall if it was Dateline or 20/20. Anyway, they conducted an experiment to see how much subjective racism still exists, particularly focusing on salespeople in retail environments.

They had a white man and a black man go into several stores to see how long it would take each to be greeted and assisted. With all but ONE store, everytime the white man was greeted immediately or w/in three minutes. The black man didn't fare nearly as well. Several stores never even spoke to the black man! It was insane!

When they took their findings back to the store managers or corporate reps, only ONE store was even interested in the information. The one store actually viewed the footage, and went about showing it to the store sales reps, apologized, and stated they would be following up with the staff, etc.

It's amazing to me how different some things still are in this country when you have brown skin.

[bliss_eternal]

41. Hi grace0418--I briefly lived in Chicago

I wasn't married at the time, or even involved w/the man that is now my husband. I miss some aspects of Chicago a lot! I never would have thought of Chicago as a IR friendly city--but I am pleased to hear that it is for you!

I worked downtown in Chicago. One jerk actually threw a plate at me in a restaurant I worked in. Apparently he told my manager I tried to speak to him like I was intelligent. I guess it pissed him off, can't have an intelligent waitress of color now can we? LOL! Jack ass!

The funny thing is that while I was there I was ONLY asked out by caucasion men! Well there was one man of my ethnicity, but he was married so I don't count him at all. LOL!

Anyway, I just wanted to welcome you to our little forum! :hi: Sorry to go on and on...

Hope we will see more of you here!

[grace0418]

44. Hi bliss_eternal

Man, he threw a plate at you?! What a fucking asshole! Chicago certainly has it's share, but my husband and I have never had a problem, thank goodness. Definitely no plates thrown at us!

It is weird though because my husband grew up in the south suburbs and it was very racist there. I'm not sure why his parents chose to move the family there. When we go there to visit, I have noticed the stares if we stop at Jewel to pick up something. But then, to be fair, I have trouble not staring back at them because they are all sporting Members Only jackets and mullets. LOL

[davidinalameda]

38. recently left an relationship

my ex is half Filipino and half Irish but he looks Latino

I thought he was Latino when we met

I'm about as white as they come

in the SF bay area--interracial couples are a dime a dozen as well

and we do have a lot of interracial gay couples

[bliss_eternal]

43. Welcome dwickham!

I am very sorry to hear about your break-up!

Glad to see you here, and hope you will allow us to get to know you better!

I would LOVE the Bay Area (SF). Southern California isn't quite as evolved sadly. Things are changing, but I don't know if the attitudes of the Bay Area will ever permeate the people down here. :(

[davidinalameda]

45. thanks but don't be sorry

it was a long time coming

[tamtam]

46. Hi everyone

I'm a black female married to a white male. We have been married for four years and we have two beautiful little girls.

We live in San Diego and my husband is in the military. Depending on what area of San Diego we are in we don't get too many stares. Our families are very accepting of our relationship.

I would honestly have to say we get more stares when we go to military get functions than when we are just out as a family.

[Hand]

47. Hi, all

I'm biracial (Jewish dad, Nisei mom) married to a white woman.

Mixed types like me are not particularly unusual these days; however, I was born in 1949. My parents were married in 1941 in Chicago--they actually met in Berkeley six years before, but couldn't marry in California because of the anti-miscegenation laws that prohibited mixed Asian/white marriage. William Randolph Hearst was behind those laws, which were intended mainly to prevent biracial kids--e.g., ME!

So I'm the old bastard's worst nightmare! :evilgrin:

[Withywindle]

49. Hi all!

I'm not in an IR relationship, I am the product of one. :hi: Dad is Caucasian, Mom is Latina (but not Hispanic - Brazilians don't speak Spanish. :) Well, actually Mom does; it's her third language.) I grew up in rural Virginia, because Dad was a National Park Ranger, so we always lived in scenic, isolated places.

As a kid I didn't know anyone else who had a parent of a different color or from another country, but the only people I remember actually treating us badly per se were some of my Dad's racist freeper relatives from Baltimore. The local people in VA, I think they embarrassed my mom sometimes because she was very exotic to them and they knew nothing about her culture, but I don't recall much real hostility. So it was sort of idyllic in some ways, but I know Mom felt very isolated.

It was a big trip the first time I went back to Bahia with my mom and met her side of the family as someone old enough to remember, in 1987 when I was 18. It's a large family, and range pretty wide across the board in wealth, skin color, and ages (Mom's brothers range in age from forty-something to around 70).

You know what did upset me? Some people in Salvador thinking my Mom was my hired tourist guide! (I'm much paler and have very insufficient Portuguese; she's clearly a native.)

Anyway, chatty posts notwithstanding I'm here to listen and learn and maybe understand some more about my parents and their experiences.

[grace0418]

50. Hi Withywindle

Thanks, that's an interesting perspective. I often wonder about that because my husband is getting sick of living in the city and I am loathe to move to the burbs. One reason is definitely the sea of white faces you see out there. If we decide to have kids, I want them to have a range of friends and experiences, and I don't want them to feel isolated. Actually, that's how I felt growing up, even though I am white.

[Withywindle]

52. Hi Grace!

I definitely wish I had grown up in a more multicultural sort of place - even though the isolation wasn't caused maliciously (not for that reason anyway; our lefty politics and my dad's very open atheism were a much bigger trouble spot), it was still there. I definitely think it's very good for kids to be able to develop sense of normalcy about people who look different, have different food, music, etc., languages, all that, as early in life as possible. Kids in multiethnic families get some of that at home of course, but it can be rough sometimes when you're the only person you know who has that experience....they want to fit in and find people like them in some way.

Are the suburbs all white where you live? Some of the burbs around here (Chicago), especially the older, inner ones are fairly diverse and getting more so.

[Brewman_Jax]

51. Of mixed ancestry

Being interracial in ancestry, I've been told that I look "kinda" black. Been accused of being Mexican/Hispanic more than a few times--by black people, and even by Hispanics, who speak to me in Spanish. (I get a kick out of that. :D ) White folks want to know "what are you?" so they can put me in the box--or they don't care, I'm just "not-white" and leave it there.

Dating is interesting. Because my interests are so eclectic, most of my girlfriends (the rare occasions I have gone beyond 2 dates ) have been white. I don't ask and quit accepting solicitations (Oh, I know someone you should meet, because it's usually from someone white, and the first/only qualification is that you're black. :eyes: They don't ask your preferences, always guess wrong, and this should be its own post. :think: ) Personal ads, well that's another thread. Leave it to say that the ones who show up in my search aren't usually looking for me. :( Single and just into my 40's, I didn't want to repeat my parents' mistake, that is, picking a companion because we match, not because it's the thing to do.

Good topic, gave me a good outlet. Thanks. :hi:

[yorkiemommie1]

53. i'm hawaiian born

but chinese ancestry married to a stubborn white guy who was born in iowa but raised in SoCal where we live now.

both his and my parents were totally cool w/ our marriage ( he was married before to a puerto rican woman ).

our main difference is a BIG one. it's not cultural. it's political. you guessed it: HE LOVES *!!!

[AspenRose]

54. Thanks for starting this

Black biracial, born in Germany, raised in San Antonio, now in New Mexico, married to white New Englander. Our new son is just beautiful :-)

My husband's dad married us (he's a UMC minister)...no problems with either side of the family, which is a blessing.

I see lots of interracial stuff both in Santa Fe and Albuquerque.

[Mutley]

55. Hello!

I'm Mutley! I am a white female and my SO is Vietnamese. We've been together 7 years on June 22, and we actually decided to get married on June 22, 2006 - our 8 year anniversary.

[yorkiemommie1]

56. hi!

nice to have you here!

[Mutley]

57. thanks!

[alarcojon]

58. Latino, married to an Asian Indian woman

I'm US born, she was born and raised in India. Our parents are extremely supportive. The main stereotypes we have come across are:

1) was your marriage arranged? (it wasn't)
2) Is yours a green card marriage (it isn't - she was sponsored by her employer)

We love each other's culture. I have been to India twice and she has been to Ecuador twice. I cook some Indian food and she cooks some Ecuadorean food.

Funny thing is, when we're in a Latino neighborhood, everyone assumes she is Mexican, and when we're in an Indian neighborhood, everyone assumes I'm Indian.

Myself, I'm Ecuadorean-American but have been taken for Mexican, Palestinian, Lakota, Ho-Chunk, Iraqui, North Indian, Italian, Greek, Filipino, Afghani, and probably others I can't remember right now. Usually it is a person of that nationality who misidentifies me!

[RFKHumphreyObama]

59. I’m not actually in an interracial relationship per se

But I’m half Asian and half western –my mother is from South East Asia and my dad is from the UK. My sister further enchanced the cultural diversity in our immediate family when she married a South African Indian. At least three members of my mum’s family have British or American husbands or wives and, since I’m presently living in a very multicultural part of the world, a considerable number of my friends are involved in multi-ethnic relationships. And the likelihood is that I will be too because I tend to be attracted to Anglo-Saxon women

[jeffrey_X]

60. Just discoverd this thread!! Awesome!!

I'm a white male (37) and my wife is african american (37). We've been married for almost 4 years (been together for 8. We live in Chicago, have no kids and love to travel.

[bliss_eternal]

61. Hi jeffrey_X--Welcome!

We're happy to have you here! We have a lot in common. You're my husband's age, we are also IR, love to travel and no kids.

:hi:

[Ecumenist]

62. I LOVE this thread.....

I am african american woman with VERY strong doses of Seminole(father's side grandmother grew up on a reservation), Blackfoot, Creek, mikosukee and Cherokee, and Scotch Irish Greatgrandfather,French Creole Greatgrandmother,another greatgrandmother who hailed from a VERY old family from Andalusia Spain but were a mix of ethnically north African, Arab and Spanish, (Moorish, I think it's called), A great-greatgrandfather who was Chinese and another who was pilipino, a Dutch and african Greatgrandfather and without getting too involved, English, Welsh, Niloctic african, west African, east African and German great-great-greats. I am married for almost 5 years, (May 6, 2001) to a texan of Bohemian-Czech descent. Once I finally stopped trying to fix him up with other women and figured out that he was the best thing since sliced bread, we dated for 3 years and finally married after we'd known one another 10 years. We live here in northen California and as a rule, there aren't any problems. There have been some sidelong looks from a few people in northeastern california, (rather conservative and insular) and Crescent city, as well as Western Placer county,(has a large Del Webb development there) but it doesn't bother us too much. Not only did my family accept the marriage, they were wondering what was taking so long. My younger brother is married to a Bosnian, with a new baby. My favourite cousin is married to a Scandiavian girl and my Michigan cousins married Greeks. I have always been attracted men who are different from me and seemed to attract Eastern Europeans like flies. I was raised to respect and understand all people and have never understood people who have problems with others who look or live differently than they do.

[Swamp Rat]

63. "Crescent City?"

You're not talkin'bout New Orleans, right? :D

You sound like me, the average New Orleanian. ;)

[MarianJack]

64. Hi! Been away for quite awhile...

...but I'm back!

I'm a white man married to a Puerto Rican woman and we are the delighted parents of a wonderful African American boy who's goint to be 6 this Friday, 3/31/06.

[IronLionZion]

66. Asian Indian Catholic, not in an inter-racial relationship...yet

but here's hoping ;)

People think it's strange but I'm specifically looking for girls who are of a different culture than me for some reason. And somehow I'm drawn towards multi-cultural girls. Maybe it's because I'm deeply interested in other cultures/religions.

I'm glad this group is here. :toast:

[bliss_eternal]

67. Well, I don't think it's strange at all--

welcome to our group! :hi: Hope that you will like it here, and help us get things a bit more active. ;)

Oh, and I believe you honestly can't pick who you love--you are attracted to who you are attracted to. You just can't help it. So those that think you're strange, just don't understand that there is nothing logical in love and relationships in some ways.