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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:21 AM
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JK coming up on MSNBC soon--about the election. n/t
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:41 AM
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1. Joe and Mica gave him a good ten minutes
Answered questions on Obama's experience, the IWR, other current issues. He says he'd like to come back on tomorrow and discuss and said that he often watches them in the morning.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:45 PM
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2. Rumor has it, these are scheduled for later today (3/4/08)
6:10p LIVE with Wolf Blitzer, CNN

6:40p LIVE Interview with Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, MSNBC
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:05 PM
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3. Yaaay !!...
...my favorite people! (except for everyone here, of course). :)
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europegirl4jfk Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:15 PM
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5. Watching the Situation Room now
Blitzer just announced that his interview with Kerry will be up next.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:16 PM
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4. Oh, thanks everyone for the advance notice! Yeah, JK! n/t
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:02 PM
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6. Kerry was incredible on MSNBC
Asked if HRC's comment that HRC has a life time of experience, McCain has the life time of experience, and Obama has a speech - whether that could hurt HRC if she were the ge candidate too. (a sneaky assumption of the Obama slam) - Kerry laughed and attacked the Obama slam - pointed out that obviously he had a life time of experience - which he then listed, culminating in his Senate years - pointing out he has more years of legislative experience than HRC and more fp than Reagan, Bush 2, and Clinton had.

He was then asked about today - said if the races were close in all states except VT, Obama could win fewer but gain more delegates. Hit the big state thing - mentioning that many big states were close - that he even got 42% in her state, NY and he did better in IL.
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Luftmensch067 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:16 PM
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7. He was great!
And great on CNN with Wolf, too -- I loved his point that even if Obama lost in big states, he's won a broader sweep of states across the country and that's what you need to win the GE.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:25 PM
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8. Did you hear Matthews and Fineman speaking of how nasty HRC is
The word Machivellian was used and Matthews spoke of how she stabbed Kerry in the back rather than just explaining what he intended to say. (Brokaw forgot that - so when he came on later he corrected Matthews that it was Edwards - so he explained again.)

The evil McAuliffe just said Bil Clinton didn't win til June and Kerry didn't win until the middle of March - he actually won roughly a year ago - and he is ignoring that everything moved up! Kerry only lost OK (where he got 27 to Edwards and Clark both getting 30 - no one talked delegates then - but I bet he got nearly as many.), SC, and VT. Also no one was ahead of them in delegates at this point.

McAuliffe is still unwilling to say he goes with the pledged delegates.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:51 PM
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10. Yes! I commented on that below. I was surprised that Tweety remembered it.
The media was so set on destroying Kerry, it seemed like they hardly noticed what a backstabber Hillary was.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:44 PM
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13. credit goes to Tweety for remembering that little item.
And here I thought it was only us Kerrycrats who remember that to this day. I still hold it against her!
I suppose it was memorable because it was coming from a fellow Dem colleague in the Senate!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:13 PM
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14. Maybe he's peaked at Du and seen the many postings of that this little
cold as ice comment.

Seriously, he does know Senator Kerry. The fact that it was blown up and it concerned the troops likely did make Tweety a bit sick. There has to be a part of him that knew that this was a guy who supported the troops more than anyone I can think of in the Democratic party - other than with Max Cleland. I suspect that many may, in their hearts, admire the grace he always shows.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:36 PM
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15. Too bad the media are helping her so that the race can go another day and they have something to
report. Plus this helps their pal Chris Matthews.

Now that she will go on, they can go back to their usual bashing of HRC. They are playing a game.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:49 PM
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9. Did you hear him? He said her remarks were "as inappropriate as they were insulting"!!
Ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!!!

Karma is gonna get ya, Hillary.

Interestingly, Tweety talked about The Joke and how Hillary threw Kerry under the bus later on in the evening. I was surprised that people in the media remembered that. He said that Hillary killed Kerry and is now out to kill Obama. Tweety is an idiot, but he's right about that.

Make no mistake: the only way Hillary can win the nomination is if superdelegates give the finger to the voters. And that is what all of her surrogates are now arguing for.

President McCain, anyone?
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:33 PM
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12. I suspect that most of the media people know exactly what she did
They played it time after time after time - hearting my heart each time they did. They knew Kerry, and had known him for years - there is no way to report on him and not know that he absolutely has the troops in his heart. They knew the story was crap - and it was them - more than HRC who were responsible.

It showed how out of touch Brokaw was that he hadn't followed it.
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:03 PM
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11. will the MSSNBC and CNN videos be on johnkerry.com or
kerryvision? If so, please let us know!!!
I'd love to see these. .
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:33 AM
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16. someone posted it on DU in the videos section, i just saw it
and he was incredible. i don't know what the idiots in GDP were complaining about. all he did was state the facts about Obama's years in the Legislature and other things. if that isn't helpful to Clinton it's not Kerry's fault.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:43 AM
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17. Thanks. I don't need to be out "there"
cause it's been really crazy and vitriolic the last few days.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:11 AM
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18. I think they were upset because he was effective - it wasn't suppose to be helpful to the Clintons
That and in an odd way, the DUers kind of feel they own him and they are mad he is with the "wrong" person. You see that with both the idea he owed the Clintons - though in reality over time he's done more that benefited them than the other way around. The Edwards stuff is stranger - Kerry gave him the vp slot and he acted like a prima donna, he and Elizabeth opted to bad mouth the Kerrys, adn he cut off contact - no matter how often these things are said - the Edwards people, who bashed Kerry themselves felt entitled to him endorsement.

I can see why they want him. He completely demolished the premise of Clinton's comment, while calling her on it. He was less negative than Rachel Maddows was - but he got the point across.

When commenting on GD-P, I was beginning to wonder if there was more than one segment - with the comments that he was hitting the Clintons harder than he hit Bush! I seem to remember comments on ammo dumps, misleading into war, outsourcing to warlords etc
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:14 AM
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19. Good observation
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 01:29 AM by politicasista
I know some of the Obama people at O's campaign blog were glad to see him today, but they wished he, Dodd and the others could have been more visible over the weekend when the media went negative on Obama, but they don't control the media. And I have also read comments from those who were impressed by his appearances on the MSM today, and said he seems more hard-hitting, and excited than he was in his own campaign (not suprising though, it can take a grueling campaign to find your voice).

It's kind of unfortunate that those who are dumping on the good senator were once those who usually said good things about him. (It's possible that they still like him in the end, but as you said, they just feel he is with the wrong person right now). The primaries here have taken a really nasty turn and will get uglier as the spring comes.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:26 AM
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20. He was on Wolf Blitzer's Sunday show - he and Dean were the only bright spots
When you compare what Kerry has done to what Gore did for Dean - endorse, shake hands and walk away - it is amazing. He is there enough that if he were there more, it would be too much - it would make Obama look like he can't stand on his own. I can see why the Obama blog people are happy he's out there - he often makes a better case for Obama than Obama does.

I think the next couple days will be nasty. The Clintons did throw the kitchen sink at him and the media this last weekend was unrelenting - as you said they went negative on him. (Candy Crowley alone reminded me why I have NO respect for her.) Though I wouldn't post this elsewhere, there were also two rather big gaffes that Obama himself made. The Canada/NAFTA story was handled very poorly. As soon as the story got out - even with the name of his adviser, it could have been handled by an immediate joint appearance of that adviser and Obama - as it was it gave the appearance that the charge was true and he didn't tell the full truth - though reality was damning.

The other gaffe was that he obviously was prepared for a question being asked on why his subcommittee had no oversight hearings, but he missed the twist Clinton used making it about Afghanistan. She even followed that charge up with an ad. The Obama campaign countered with meeting Clinton missed on Afghanistan - rather than pointing out there were SFRC meeting - likely because Obama was not at them. Had Obama mentioned them in his response - including pointing out Afghanistan was not in Europe - the dynamics would have been different. He would have won the debate exchange - and their counter would likely have been he didn't attend them and it would be a wash because she missed hers too. (It now is a dicey question whether to correct things - as it brings up this whole spider's web.

The media also really hit on Rezko. Obama has done great work on ethics reform, but this is a story that makes it look like he was given something, because of his position, from a pretty bad guy. The story is far less bad as details are read - but he needs to do what the Clintons refused to do on Whitewater - make everything transparent and get the facts out. The Clintons' list of corruption is long.

I know all this sounds negative - but it's not. In spite of all of this, he closed a large part of 20 point gaps in all three states he lost and he kept the delegate win for HRC very low - at least from some of the accounts. The original view was that he would win all of the remaining February contests (a high bar for him when made) and she would win big in Texas and Ohio and rebound to take the delegate lead. The size of his February victories made this impossible, but even if they were less big - her victories were NOT as big as they were predicted in early February. (These gaffes and the ethics question and the Clinton gaffes, dishonesty and sheer meanness, not to mention a laundry list of ethics questions remind me just how good Kerry was in 2004.)

Everyone is saying this gives her momentum, but the next two events are Wyoming and Mississippi and Obama is likely to win both - and it is still the case that she almost certainly needs the superdelegates to give her the election. (She was also on CNN this morning lying about her foreign policy experience - claiming involvement in bringing peace to Northern Ireland and negotiating to open the Macedonian border. (Wouldn't it be illegal for a private citizen to negotiate?)
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:00 PM
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21. Excellent comments
Hope you didn't stay up all night typing this because it is spot on. I don't look at CNN much and don't care for Wolfie (thanks for the recap)but I also think the gaffes could have been handled better by the O campaign.

I thought about (and still may in the future) post about a repeating pattern I am noticing from 2004, and now 2008 between Kerry and Obama. It is very similar.
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