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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 08:06 PM
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Anybody know James Guckert's date of birth? Want to do his horoscope
The date would be great. If you can find the time and the birthplace too, even better.

I have been googling all over kingdom come, but have not yet found the data.

W can use this thread to discuss the chart if we come up with the data.
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pacifictiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 09:24 PM
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1. don't know if this is anywhere near
correct, but thought I'd post anyway. Two things came up on a search - could be a different person.
a) One site indicated he graduated from Westchester U in 1980, born 1957.
b) A dailykos commenter put that they'd found May 22, 1957.
But added, "seems too old for him doesn't it? But some of the same addresses match. This is wierd."
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 10:04 PM
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2. if so, that makes Guckert a Gemini
With Sun just at the start of the sign, and Moon at 8 Pisces.

Thus Transiting Uranus is conjuncting his Moon, and this Wild, Electrifying Ride is just getting underway.

It would also put his Chiron at 17 Aquarius, presently being drowned by a conjunction of slow-moving Neptune. Expect lots more bathos...

Will keep looking to see if I can confirm this data...
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 12:53 PM
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3. If this is the right chart, this guy is very susceptible to depression
He looked quite anxious and upset to me when he was interviewed by Anderson Cooper (the interview can be seen on americablog.org).

He has a very tight Saturn Venus opposition, Saturn Mercury quincunx, Saturn Mars quincunx, and likely a Saturn Moon square, also potentially quite tight. This is an awful lot of negative attention for someone who could be emotionally quite vulnerable. Uranus will hit all of these in 2007, and possibly hitting the Moon now or very soon. In fact, given events, we could guess that his Moon is about 7 Pisces and perhaps his Ascendant is Taurus. But this is merely a guess.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 01:29 PM
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4. A telling quote, from a depressed (bipolar?) man
A snippet from the Anderson Cooper interview with Guckert that Nancy mentioned above.

The most telling answer Gukert gave was his very last one...when after denying his private life and dancing around like a marionette, he said something like "I'd just like my past life not to interefere with my future".

Right. Good luck. Gonna go googling again in hopes of date confirmation.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 09:05 AM
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9. Just looked at the "Finger of Fate" Nancy identified
Edited on Sun Feb-20-05 09:07 AM by SpiralHawk
With Mercury and Mars both inconjunct Guckert's natal Saturn at 11 Sag.

Then I put Guckert's chart up outside the Sibley chart for the USA to do a bit of comparison. The USA has 12 Sag rising in that chart, so it would put Guckert's fated Saturn conjunct the USA ASC, but just shading into that elusive, mysterious 12th house.

Two other notes: Guckert has his Mars (Man, manliness, sex drive, etc) at 11+ Cancer, closely conjunct the USA and Bush's and the Republican Party's Sun positions: 13 Cancer for USA and Bush, 14 Cancer for R. Party.

Guckert also has his Venus at about 11 Gemini, closely conjunct the USA natal Uranus position (9 Gemini). So his "inner woman" in a sense is shocking (Uranus) the nation with news (Gemini).
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 06:49 PM
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5. And are we surprised to learn that a Gemini has 2 identities?
The "good, faithful, Republican reporter" Jeff Gannon

And the "Evil twin" James Guckert - Gay prostitute and manager of porno-escort web sites.

Still seeking confirmation of the birth data.
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Tess49 Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 07:03 PM
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6. Maybe we could email him at Talon news and ask him.
He might be goofy enough to tell us. No, he'd probably just give us two dates. One for each name.
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Tess49 Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 10:54 PM
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7. I found this 5-22-57 birth date on Americablog.org
In a comment by a poster on the "Be careful of misinformation" story.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 08:53 AM
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8. Gannon's Moon is at around 8 Pisces
Can't be precise without a time. But we do know that transiting Uranus is in the neighborhood, and likely to be there for a year or so -- lots of electrifying shocks to come.

I feel it is noteworthy also that the USA has transiting Saturn opposite natal Mercury (24 Cancer), signaling big change in the way the nation thinks and communicates.

Part of this national transit has already played out big time in the re-vamping of the "intelligence" agencies, with Porter Goss at the CIA and Negroponte now taking over as Supreme Intelligencia -- a new role.

With the Gannon/Guckert shocking (Uranus) scandal, I also see the beginning of a process that could re-structure and re-define the news (Mercury in Cancer) business (Saturn in Cap).

I expect the shame and embarassment of this scandal will motivate a lot of editors and reporters, and that ultimately a measure of honesty will return to the media. That would be the most positive outcome of the transit -- though negative manifestations are always possible. I feel no need to go there in my speculations, nor do I feel any DUers need help imagining the possibilities.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 10:46 AM
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10. Gay Gate
Gay -Gate


look to August for some information about Jeffrey
Gooney stud to show up - transiting Pluto completes a T square : opposition Mars and squaring Neptune with transiting Venus conjuncting Neptune. But I think the story will be diminished by
the US financial news

The Pluto square Venus/Neptune would be the exposure of the gay-gate, but the financial status of the US will be in the news big time when Pluto triggers the US Mars/Neptune square, possibly diminishing further expose on gay-gate,


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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 12:15 PM
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11. I always thought it would be good to make news people report
Edited on Sun Feb-20-05 12:17 PM by Cleita
the facts with a hefty fine to the reporter and news organization for knowingly putting forth propaganda, half-truths, untruths and fiction as "news". Although no agency can run around being the truth police, there could be a provision for investigating any such news entities if many infractions have been noted or reported. If found guilty then they should be fined. The only exceptions would be if they put out a disclaimer for each news item, or program, saying that their program is fake news and is strictly for entertainment and not to be taken as serious news nor factual news.

If this seems draconian, remember every bartender in the country must determine if a client is either drunk or underage. If he/she is careless and serves and intoxicated person or a minor, he/she and his establishment are subject to appear in court and if found guilty forced to pay a hefty fine. Now drunks and minors will accidentally get served, however, if an establishment gets a reputation for this, then the vice police are dispatched to catch them in the act and reprimand them to the court system. This could keep the fourth estate honest and on their toes for fact checking too.
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 03:54 PM
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12. I think there should be some kind of filter
for all the propaganda that is going on, making it illegal. But how to structure it while still allowing freedom of the press will be tricky.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 04:27 PM
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13. This is what I think.
Commercial corporations that are traded on the stock exchange and operate on a for profit basis should be regulated to make them stick to providing the service or product they are marketing. They should adhere to certain laws to make sure that their product or service is safe and operates the way it's supposed to.

I went to the doctor yesterday and had to read and sign a stack of contracts so that we understand what we expect of each other. My doctor has impressive credentials that are displayed on the wall of her office and she is liable under the law if she doesn't perform her service properly and I become injured or die.

Why don't we expect this of the commercial media? Shouldn't they be held accountable if they don't perform their job? For one thing, shouldn't a journalist have acceptable credentials like my doctor? Shouldn't he operate under commonly understood guidelines. If he cheats or circumvents those guidelines, shouldn't he be held accountable to the law just like my doctor is?

Also, what ever happened to anti-trust laws agains monopolies? Randi Rhodes has stated on her radio show that the mainstream media in this country is being held by six owners or corporate interests? Perhaps breaking up these monopolies and conflicts of interest forcing the media to compete with each other in more local markets would help without bring down too much regulation on the reporting of news itself.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 11:54 PM
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15. Cleita, Colin Powell's son, former chair of the FCC changed
that rule. They are now allowed to own almost as much as they want : newspaper, radio, and tv stations...so that the only point of
view received in various areas is , for instance, faux news' point of view no matter which media outlet you turn to.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:23 AM
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21. Big changes in USA communication from this "Gannon" scandal
Transiting Saturn is opposite the USA natal Mercury this year.

Article entitled "Redefining Jounralism" from today's Hartford Courant:

http://www.courant.com/features/lifestyle/hc-guckert.artfeb23,0,7301349.story

"Interesting questions all, and the answers are as complex as they are elusive. But perhaps the most lasting effect of the Gannon/Guckert saga will be the outcome of renewed debate over not only how to define a bona fide reporter but who does the defining.

"That's really the key, and it's a fascinating thing - who's a journalist?" said USA Today's Jim Drinkard, who just finished his term as chairman of the Standing Committee of Correspondents, which oversees the issuing of credentials for reporters covering Congress. "


From the DU discussion thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3163003
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:19 PM
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23. Corporate Media Vs. Blogosphere - A Quiz
Blogs vs. Mainstream: Let the Battle Begin


Category: CURRENT EVENTS

Round 1: Who falsely told you that there were weapons of mass
destruction in Iraq? Mainstream media or blogs?

Round 2: Who correctly told you that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? Mainstream media or blogs?

Round 3: Who falsely claimed that there was a link between Al Qaeda and Saddam? Mainstream media or blogs?

Round 4: Who correctly reported that there was no link between
Saddam and Al Qaeda, and that in fact Al Qaeda opposed Saddam? Mainstream media or blogs?

Round 5: Who falsely claimed that Iraq was behind 9-11? Mainstream media or blogs?

Round 6: Who correctly pointed out the evidence that 9-11 was
actually a false flag operation to start a war? Mainstream media or blogs?

Round 7: Who falsely claimed that both Iraq and Afghanistan would be quick victories? Mainstream media or blogs?

Round 8: Who correctly forecast that both Afghanistan and Iraq
would become quagmires? Mainstream media or blogs?

Let the battle begin? The battle is already OVER!

Source:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3167726
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 09:32 PM
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26. Let's toss "Dr." Thompson into this mix, for counterpoint
I feel it's noteworthy that the originator of "gonzo" journalism, Hunter Thompson, has died by "suicide" in the same time frame as the emergence of the vast BushCo propaganda plot. Witness the stories of paid-off "journalists" and squelched science and distorted budget figures. "Jeff Gannon" is but part of this wide pattern.

The death (Saturn) of Thompson (symbolized in this context by the USA Mercury position at 24 Cancer), serves as counterpoint to the rest of the transition that is taking place in national communication forms.

Here's a choice DU post about Thompson that bears directly on these key points:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x109681

"This was the world Dr. Thompson was born into, and at some point, he had to ask himself, "who are the watchdogs of this great cacophany of thieves and murderers?" and in some likelihood, he would have had to wonder if it weren't in fact, the Press.

"What is the divine purpose behind journalism? Is it to be an unseen fourth branch of government; to keep the people safe from the unchecked power of madmen and would-be kings; men bred for their office through careful selection of mutated genes; chosen for the raw degeneracy that would enable them to make the really big decisions without the unfortunate shackles of conscience, decency or morals?"

(snip) - eom
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 09:17 AM
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27. How the Blogs Broke it open
An interesting discussion on the Emerging Blog Pheonomenon (EBP), featuring lame excuses about limitations (Saturn) from corporate media.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1628226

madhat (101 posts) Mon Feb-28-05 01:49 PM

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Inside The 'Gannon' Case: How Blogs Broke It Wide Open
Greg Mitchell at E & P gets it just right!!

"For the first time last month, I was able to follow a "blog probe" from the start, and it was amazing to see the resources and skills the larger sites can bring to bear on a single issue or controversy.

...The Jeff Gannon affair has not yet morphed into a full-fledged political scandal, or retreated to the realm of embarrassing footnote, so this may be a good time to pause and reflect. At the center of the controversy: A man with no journalistic (but plenty of sex-site) experience who managed to cover the White House at close range for two years for an obscure online site called Talon News — under an alias — with the avowed aim of simply presenting the administration's case, unfiltered.

Whatever the merits of the uproar over this episode, it has proved extremely instructive for me, making possible my first immersion in the new world of blog-generated controversy."

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/pressin...  
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 10:13 AM
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28. Top journalist quits - Trashes mass media on way out
Prize-winning reporter resigns and pens scathing exit manifesto

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_di...
Laurie Garrett of 'Newsday' Rips Tribune Co. 'Greed' in Exit Memo
By E&P Staff

Published: March 01, 2005 11:00 AM ET

“The deterioration we experienced at Newsday was hardly unique," she wrote in the memo, describing the past few years.

"All across America news organizations have been devoured by massive corporations, and allegiance to stockholders, the drive for higher share prices, and push for larger dividend returns trumps everything that the grunts in the newsrooms consider their missions.

"Long gone are the days of fast-talking, whiskey-swilling Murray Kempton peers eloquently filling columns with daily dish on government scandals, mobsters and police corruption. The sort of in-your-face challenge that the Fourth Estate once posed for politicians has been replaced by mud-slinging, lies and, where it ought not be, timidity.

<snip>

”Honesty and tenacity (and for that matter, the working class) seem to have taken backseats to the sort of 'snappy news', sensationalism, scandal-for-the-sake of scandal crap that sells. This is not a uniquely Tribune or even newspaper industry problem: this is true from the Atlanta mixing rooms of CNN to Sulzberger's offices in Times Square. Profits: that's what it's all about now. But you just can't realize annual profit returns of more than 30 percent by methodically laying out the truth in a dignified, accessible manner. And it's damned tough to find that truth every day with a mere skeleton crew of reporters and editors.

”This is terrible for democracy. I have been in 47 states of the USA since 9/11, and I can attest to the horrible impact the deterioration of journalism has had on the national psyche. I have found America a place of great and confused fearfulness.”

Garrett lamented “Judy Miller's bogus weapons of mass destruction coverage, the media's inaccurate and inappropriate convictions of Wen Ho Lee, Richard Jewell and Steven Hatfill, CBS' failure to smell a con job regarding Bush's Texas Air Guard career and, sadly, so on.” But she added: “It would be easy to descend into despair, not only about the state of journalism, but the future of American democracy. But giving up is not an option. There is too much at stake."

<snip>
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 10:39 AM
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29. US shoots Italian journalist in Iraq. UN to investigate
More on the theme of transiting Saturn opposite the US Mercury...Some are speculating that the US actually wanted to assasinate this journalist, because she had written many articles describing the slaughter of civilians by US soliders in Fallujah.

---------------

UN Asked To Investigate US Shooting of Italian Journalist

UN asked to investigate US shooting of Italian journalist and military intelligence officer

Reporters Without Borders today called for a UN investigation to shed light on the circumstances in which the US military fired on a vehicle carrying the newly freed Italian journalist Giuliana Sgrena yesterday in Baghdad, injuring Sgrena and killing an Italian military officer accompanying her.

"A thorough investigation must be quickly carried out by the United Nations into this blunder with tragic consequences," Reporters Without Borders secretary-general Robert Ménard said.

"It is clear that his enquiry cannot be conducted just by the US army which in the past, especially in the case of the Palestine Hotel shooting that killed two journalists, produced reports aimed solely at exonerating the military," Ménard said, adding, "we demand to know the full truth about this distressing affair."

http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=12761  
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 08:15 PM
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30. White House Misses Deadline on PR Contracts
Broadcasting&Cable: White House Mum on (Dem request for)
propagandagate indeed.


White House Mum on PR Contracts

By John Eggerton -- Broadcasting & Cable, 3/4/2005 5:35:00 PM
At press time, the White House had not responded to the request by a couple dozen high-profile House Democrats for information on all PR and advertising contracts with government agencies.

According to the office of Rep. George Miller, ranking minority member of the education committee, the administration has not responded to the Jan. 28 letter, which asked for the information by March 1.

The request cited "secret publicity campaigns to promote administration priorities" including an investigation that "revealed that the Department of Education paid a conservative commentator (Armstrong Williams, though the letter did not name him) to support the No Child Left Behind Act in television and radio appearances," plus another contract with a commentator unearthed following the Williams revelation.

It also cited Government Accountability Office conclusions that video news releases issued by Health and Human Services and the Office of National Drug Control Policy violated anti-propaganda rules, though the Justice Department concluded differently.

The letter-writers, which included House Democratic Leader Rep. Nancy Pelosi and the ranking minority members of a slew of committees from Appropriations and Commerce to Science and Transportation, want copies of all contracts, subcontracts and related documents.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA508851.html?...
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 10:36 AM
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31. US Soldieers killing journalists? CNN - Eason Jordan
Edited on Sun Mar-06-05 10:37 AM by SpiralHawk
OK, the transiting Saturn (Grim Reaper) opposite US natal Mercury sub-theme is taking on a life of its own, even with the context of the "Jeff Gannon" story.

By rights, it should be the other way around. Which is to say that the "Jeff Gannon" story is but a part of the overall Saturn to mercury transit.

Nonetheless, this story adds immensely to the overall picture.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3224406


NEW YORK Feb 11, 2005 — CNN chief news executive Eason Jordan quit Friday amid a furor over remarks he made in Switzerland last month about journalists killed by the U.S. military in Iraq. Jordan said he was quitting to avoid CNN being "unfairly tarnished" by the controversy.

During a panel discussion at the World Economic Forum last month, Jordan said he believed that several journalists who were killed by coalition forces in Iraq had been targeted.

He quickly backed off the remarks, explaining that he meant to distinguish between journalists killed because they were in the wrong place when a bomb fell, for example, and those killed because they were shot at by American forces who mistook them for the enemy.

"I never meant to imply U.S. forces acted with ill intent when U.S. forces accidentally killed journalists, and I apologize to anyone who thought I said or believed otherwise," Jordan said in a memo to fellow staff members at CNN.

But the damage had been done, compounded by the fact that no transcript of his actual remarks has turned up. He was the target of an Internet and Web site campaign that was beginning to rival the one launched against CBS's Dan Rather following the network's ill-fated story last fall about President Bush's military service....

Link:
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=492860
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 09:41 AM
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32. GAO - EPA Distorted Mercury Data In Order To Pimp "Clear Skies"
Wow - Saturn opposite natal Mercury -- GAO offers reality (Saturn) about BushCo propaganda on Mercury (Mercury) !

GAO - EPA Distorted Mercury Data In Order To Pimp "Clear Skies"

"The Environmental Protection Agency distorted the analysis of its controversial proposal to regulate mercury pollution from power plants, making it appear that the Bush administration's market-based approach was superior to a competing scheme supported by environmentalists, the nonpartisan Government Accountability Office said yesterday.

Rebuking the agency for a lack of "transparency," the report said the EPA had failed to fully document the toxic impact of mercury on brain development, learning, and neurological functioning. The GAO urged that these problems be rectified before the EPA takes final action on the rule.

The analysis follows a critical report by the EPA's inspector general that suggested that agency scientists had been pressured to back the approach preferred by industry. "The administration is showing a blatant disregard for the health of children, the health of women of childbearing age, but they are also showing a blatant disregard for the law," said Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.), who had asked for the analysis. "To not change would be the height of arrogant disregard."

Cynthia Bergman, an EPA spokeswoman, said the agency is on track to issue the mercury rule by March 15. She said the final rule would provide comparisons between the competing options that the GAO said were missing.

EDIT

The administration said the cap-and-trade plan would reduce more pollution, in part because it would invite less litigation, and blend nicely with a cap-and-trade proposal to control sulfur dioxide and nitrogen oxides, called the Clean Air Interstate Rule (CAIR).

But the GAO report said the EPA had tipped the scales to favor the market-based plan. For example, the EPA found that capping pollution at every plant would result in savings of $13 billion -- the difference between the estimated savings in health costs and the pollution control costs.

The EPA said the cap-and-trade approach provided a much larger benefit of $55 billion to $68 billion, but the GAO said yesterday that this analysis included the benefits from implementing the CAIR rule. The report also suggested that the EPA had used dubious methods to assess the monetary value of mercury reductions. Although the approach was "quick and low-cost," the GAO said the method was characterized by great uncertainty and should have been treated "as a last-resort option."

EDIT

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A15244-20...
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 05:41 PM
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14. Come on..he doesnt look a day over 35...
Better wait until you have the real info...why waste your time on a guess?
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:50 AM
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16. my sense too, is that he is younger
Edited on Mon Feb-21-05 12:00 PM by Desertrose
than the '57 birthday would bear out.....

my guess is he was born somewhere between '66 & '69 :shrug:

there has to be a way to find out.....not sure I care enough to dig through all the muck tho....

on edit - course age is a tough one to judge anymore......
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 05:04 PM
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17. More evidence that 1957 is Guckert's birth year
Edited on Tue Feb-22-05 05:07 PM by SpiralHawk
I agree that he looks younger, but then you never know about Botox or plastic surgery or whatever. A man in Guckert's business probably feels the need to look young.

At any rate, I think we have the correct date of his birth. Here, pasted below, are the result of a Lexis/Nexis search that was posted in another DU thread. The birth month and year are given at the end.

RuleofLaw (285 posts) Tue Feb-22-05 02:42 PM

4. This is what Lexis Nexis shows:
THIS DATA IS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY
PERSON LOCATOR - P-CNSR
Copyright 2003 infoUSA Inc., All Rights Reserved.

Name: GUCKERT, JAMES D (MALE)
Address:
5721 KENNETT PIKE
WILMINGTON, DE 19807-1311
County: DE NEW CASTLE
Latitude: 39.81
Longitude: -75.61
Address Type: HOUSE NUMBER & STREET NAME
Address Created: 1987

Previous Addresses:
5725 KENNETT PIKE # 34130
WILMINGTON, DE 19807-1311
County: DE NEW CASTLE
Latitude: 39.81
Longitude: -75.61
Address Type: HOUSE NUMBER & STREET NAME
Address Created: 1987


5725 KENNETT PIKE
WILMINGTON, DE 19807-1311
County: DE NEW CASTLE
Latitude: 39.81
Longitude: -75.61
Address Type: HOUSE NUMBER & STREET NAME
Address Created: 1987

Birthdate: 5/1957

The DU thread where this data appeared:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3159694
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 05:12 PM
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18. Don't Want To Step On Any Toes
but if he is an operative, as many think, I wouldn't believe anything written about him. So far the story on this guy is a long and winding road and I don't believe we can really know where it's going. Unless you have a birth certificate you can't be sure and even those can be faked.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 07:43 PM
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19. Oh no, you would have to remind us of that ! LOL
BushCo Octopus Doublethink. Doublespeak. Doubleplusungood.

I must add though, that I am struck by the comparison of the supposed Guckert horoscope (May 22, 1957) with the USA horoscope. That chart puts Guckert's Mars on the USA, Republican, and Bush sun placements -- and this issue is so much about Mars. Further, if the date is correct then the Moon at 7 or 8 Pisces is just such a perfect placement for what is happening now -- Uranian bolts of new media lightning completely upsetting the apple cart and piercing illusions.

In short, the cautions you all have raised about accepting this date for Guckert are all damn good considerations. They cannot be brushed aside. But I have a hunch that when the dust settles, we will see the May 22, '57 date as valid.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 09:53 PM
Response to Reply #19
20. I Will Bow To Your Superior Knowledge
of astrology while still wondering how he keeps his youthful appearance. But perhaps that is due to the CIA too and its renown medicine chest.
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #20
22. I agree his escort picture looks younger,
but in this photo, I do think he looks older:



I think he does look older than his thirties in this one.
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pacifictiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 01:50 AM
Response to Reply #20
24. in the
WHPressRoom photos he looks way older than the online stud photos ..... photoshopped for appeal perhaps?
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 05:49 AM
Response to Reply #24
25. Well, he did admit to claiming to be "32" when he was 40!
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 06:05 PM
Response to Original message
33. Starting a new thread on Saturn conjunct USA Mercury
Since all of the Gannon related news is actually, in a sense, a subset of this larger USA event.

Here's the link to the new thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=245x4920

(lease note that while in this Gannon thread i have spoken of Saturn opposite USA Mercury, that is incorrect. We are this year experiencing Saturn conjunct the USA Mercury).
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:32 AM
Response to Original message
34. House Committee kills Gannon inquiry
From DU's GD forum:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1666796


Botany  (1000+ posts) Thu Mar-17-05 05:46 AM
Original message

The coup is complete .........

....... we are now officially screwed.

Yesterday a house committee killed the investigation into Gannon. They are good brownshirts. And they knew exactly what they were doing. 6 or 7 Democratic reps did not even show up for the vote. Hope they investigate the hell out of steroids in baseball .... that is important!

Paul Wolfowitz was sent to be head of the world bank ...... Iraq is going so well ..... he is on record of saying that Iraq will pay for it's self ..... He said something like, "Iraq might cost us only 1 or 2 Billion dollars." The oil would pay for everything.

For money alone we are going to forever change one of the last intact ecosystems in the world (last place in the world where large herds of grazing animals migrate as they have done since the end of the Wisconsin ice age.) The oil will be sold to Japan at a profit ..... it will have no effect on our energy budget. But it
will add to global warming. The Governor of Alaska's kid stood on the senate floor and lied ....... she said up to 30 years worth of oil was in ANWR ...... USGS said 6 months. (U.S. Geological Survey)

bush held a press conference that made his debates look like great moments in public speaking ......... (widders & doodie = widows and duty) .......he stuttered, made shit up, hmmmmed and hawwwed , and when things got tough he said that their was not enough oxygen in the room and split.

But the press will not play the 95% of his conference when he looked like an idiot. He also said something about G. Washington, history in the future, and he
reads books ....... God, he is an idiot.

And our liberal media will not touch any of this .........
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 09:42 AM
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35. Gannon/Guckert Timeline
Useful research....


DKOS: "J.D. Guckert/Jeff Gannon: These Are Your Lives!" - TimelineEdited on Mon Mar-28-05 07:36 AM by sabra
<<SNIP>>

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/28/82111/6781
J.D. Guckert/Jeff Gannon: These Are Your Lives!
by SusanG

Mon Mar 28th, 2005 at 05:21:11 PST
By Susan Gardner and Todd Johnston
ePluribus Media

"Yes, sir?" says the President of the United States.

"Jeff Gannon," four rows from the commander in chief, two years from his first White House press briefing and less than three years from his office job at an auto body repair shop, is one half-minute from blowing it.

Gannon, AKA James Dale Guckert, is about to ask the question that will strip the mask off who and what he is, crash fictitious "news outlet" Talon News and kick start demands in Congress for investigations into national security, White House access and definitions of media that are implied by his very presence in that room.

But Wait!

Before he asks that question ... Did we just say ... an auto body repair shop?

Yes, it's true. Guckert's path to the president reads like a modern-day fairy tale on steroids. In less than twelve months, Guckert was catapulted from the position of office manager of family-owned and operated Karmak, Inc., in West Chester, Pennsylvania, to the White House briefing room, with a quick - but thus far unverified beyond Guckert's claim - two-day seminar at the Leadership Institute's Broadcast Journalism School.

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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 06:54 PM
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37. Bush called HIM Sir ?
Mr. 'I'll call the leader of Russia Pootie Poot' refers to a pool reporter - and obviously not a well known one - as SIR ??

Maybe he was having a flashback to one of their previous dates - uh, interviews ???

:wtf:
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 05:20 PM
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36. E&P: The National Press Club Welcomes... Jeff Gannon?

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_di...
The National Press Club Welcomes... Jeff Gannon?
By Joe Strupp
Published: March 28, 2005 updated 3:50 PM ET

NEW YORK Jeff Gannon is back. At the National Press Club?
Yes, the same day that the prestigious Washington, D.C., journalism organization plans to present a lunch talk by former Washington Post executive editor Ben Bradlee, it will also allow the former White House reporter/sex site operator to be on a panel discussing bloggers and online journalism.

Gannon, whose real name is James Guckert, resigned his job with the conservative Talon News last month after it was revealed he had used a pseudonym, had little journalism background, and had ties to male escort Web sites.

Still, Press Club leaders will include Gannon on the panel April 8 that includes Wonkette.com editor Ana Marie Cox, National Journal's John Stanton, and others.

Gannon told E&P today that he always considered himself a legitimate journalist, and "perhaps their invitation is recognition of that."

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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:37 PM
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38. E & P: Press Club Keeps Gannon on Panel, Adds Others
I think this little event -- on the day of the eclipse -- is going to blow the whole "Jeff Gannon" thing out of the water -- but will it blow left or right?

http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp...
Press Club Keeps Gannon -- But Adds Others to Panel
By E&P Staff
Published: March 29, 2005 5:00 PM ET
NEW YORK

Despite criticism in some media circles, the National Press Club is standing by its decision to feature James Guckert -- a.k.a. Jeff Gannon, the former correspondent/escort -- on an April 8 panel discussion about journalism and blogging called "Who is a Journalist?" But it has added others to the panel.

Newcomers include Jim Drinkard of USA Today, past chairman of the Standing Committee of Correspondents for the House and Senate press galleries (which turned down Guckert/Gannon for permanent credentials); Garrett Graff, editor of Fishbowl D.C., the first blogger to receive White House press credentials; and Matthew Yglesias, staff writer at The American Prospect and editor of yglesias.typepad.com.

Previously announced as panelists were Gannon, Ana Marie Cox of Wonkette.com, and John Stanton of Congress Daily.
Gannett News Service's Mike Madden and co-chair of the NPC Professional Affairs Committee will moderate the program.

"We've been looking for a balance and a diverse panel all along, and I'm sure we'll get one," Madden told E&P Tuesday morning after criticism of the panel had begun and before the final group had been named. "It's great that people are taking an interest, but we did not set out to fill the panel to fill an agenda."

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robertarctor Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 12:03 AM
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39. It's a good start, but ...
I'd add John Aravosis to the mix, just to liven things up a bit.
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robertarctor Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 11:20 AM
Response to Reply #39
40. And apparently some other folks agree with me
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 11:54 AM
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41. E&P: 'Gannon' Appears at National Press Club, Draws Heat
Edited on Fri Apr-08-05 11:56 AM by SpiralHawk
E&P: 'Gannon' Appears at National Press Club, Draws Heat
April 8 - day of the eclipse at 20 Aries)

DU discussion:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1379699

April 8, 2005 news article from Editor and Publisher

NEW YORK More than two months after he resigned as the White House correspondent for right-leaning Talon News, James Guckert, also known as Jeff Gannon, was back in the spotlight this morning as part of a panel at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C.

When the panel ended at 11 a.m. after the alotted 90 minutes, heated questions were still flying from the audience and moderator Rick Dunham of the Press Club told the audience members to seek out panel members afterward.

The panel had closed with Gannon refusing to say, under repeated questioning, how long it had taken him to get his credentials to the White House, which others have had to fight for. Another panelist, Matthew Yglesias of The American Prospect, commented: “I have a hard time believing that you don't have a recollection of how long it took you to get access to the White House."

Gannon replied: “I guess they felt it was my turn.”

more:
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_di...
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 01:05 PM
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42. Gannon/Guckert/Gosch Connection -- Cover up

http://nyc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/147497/index....

Cover Story: Death of a Conspiracy
Johnny Gosch, Jeff Gannon, Hunter Thompson and the unraveling of a troubling tale.

By Tim Schmitt
Noreen Gosch sits in a booth at the West Des Moines Village Inn, nursing a cup of coffee and managing, despite her larger-than-life personality, to blend into the surroundings and keep a low profile in the almost empty restaurant. She is open with her thoughts and willing to share what information she can, yet she remains guarded - cautious and thoughtful in a manner often mistaken as cold and standoffish. She thinks carefully as she speaks about her son, Johnny, and the players in a bizarre conspiracy surrounding his disappearance in 1982 that continues to evolve, and may finally be on the verge of breaking down.

"Just because you don't want to believe something is true," says Noreen slowly, "that doesn't mean it's not true."

<snip>

Andy Stephenson, a blogger from Seattle familiar with the details of the Johnny Gosch case and the child sex rings in Nebraska detailed in the Book, "The Franklin Cover-Up," began, with a group of other writers and investigators, to ponder the claim.

They looked at markings on Gannon's body and compared them to those reported on Johnny Gosch. They considered the lack of personal information about Gannon's early years. They considered that Johnny was alleged to have been used as a gay prostitute for blackmail purposes. They considered that the high-powered people alleged to have kidnapped and brainwashed children as part of the government's Monarch Project and MK-Ultra program, including Johnny, did so to use them in a variety of ways to advance their own agendas. And they contacted Noreen Gosch and discussed the idea with her - the first she'd heard of the theory - and they, too, came to the conclusion that Jeff Gannon is none other than Johnny Gosch.

From the DU Discussion
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3447826#3448045

Minstrel Boy  (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-08-05 10:08 AM

5. Just learned the paper was closed and the writer fired
the day this story appeared:

The alternative weekly paper that published the Gannon/Gosch piece closed its doors the day the story came out and will not print another issue. The paper will apparently be printing under the name of another alt-type weekly paper in town (cityview) but the writer of the Pointblank piece - the managing editor - was fired.

Apparently, the company that owns the new paper is owned by Michael Gartner, a high-powered individual in Des Moines who owns the Minor league baseball team in that town, oversees a state board that disburses funds to big business, and was a former writer for the Des Moines Register and Tribune who once won a Pulitzer. He was also once president of NBC news, but was forced to leave after the debacle when they blew up trucks with rockets to make them look like they exploded on impact.

http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/04/noreen-go...
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 01:14 PM
Response to Reply #42
43. Bad link
The link to the DU discussion doesn't work for me. I get the "missing topic" error message. Is the link bad or did that whole thread get tombstoned.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 05:26 PM
Response to Original message
44. Gannon/Guckert Lie. No USMC records whatsoever.
I'm convince Guckert's natal Moon is in that 5-8 degrees of Pisces range.


DailyKos: Quantico Search Reveals NO Guckert USMC Records (Gannongate)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/4/14/8341/89426

Quantico Search Reveals NO Guckert USMC Records
by ePluribus Media

Thu Apr 14th, 2005 at 05:03:41 PDT

James Dale Guckert, aka "Jeff Gannon," never served in the United States Marine Corps, according to the Personnel Management Support Branch located at Marine Corps Base Quantico (MCBQ).

ePluribus Media volunteer researcher RenaRF visited the Virginia base March 30, 2005, and requested a hand search of all records, as recommended by Marine Corps lead archive technician Armando Nunez after he failed to find files on Guckert in response to a Freedom of Information Act request submitted last month and documented in a previous diary.

The hand search was conducted by Quantico staff member Delores Smith, who accessed computerized records from 1995-2005 and an additional 15 years' worth of archived microfiche files dating back to 1980, the year Guckert graduated from college. (He graduated from high school in 1975.)
The searches at Quantico were conducted by Social Security number, as well as by birth date and last name, with no hits on any combination of the criteria in either the computerized or microfiche records.

At the completion of the search, Smith stated that Guckert had never served in the United States Marine Corps.

Guckert's Claims of Military Service
I enlisted in the military more as a challenge to myself than anything, but got so much more than I ever expected. I learned the importance of self-discipline and self-reliance.

In many circles, I have become known as "the conservative guy". Some people don't even remember my name because I am an average type guy. I've been a preppie, a yuppie, blue-collar, green-collar and white-collar. I've served in the military ....

And from military.com via Philly Online (registration required for military.com):
James D Guckert
Rank: E-4 Corporal
Service: Marine Corps
Status: Inactive Res/Guard (not drilling)

And then there's the marketing of "Bulldog," aka "Jeff," aka James D. Guckert, on an escort site turned up by Americablog in February:

When asked what USMCPT meant, Paul said he asked Jeff that very question. The answer: United States Marine Corps, Part Time. Paul recalls Jeff telling him he was still in the Marines, but only part time.

Ex-USMC Jock: Available for hourly, overnight, weekend or longer travel - OUT ONLY!

If Guckert now wishes to change his "patriotic" claim of Marine Corps service to ... say ... the Navy Seals, ePluribus Media would be willing to follow-up on that as well.

It's amazing what you can accomplish with more than 800 volunteer investigators.

<</SNIP>>

DU Discussion thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3479277
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:58 PM
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45. WH RECORDS SHOW MANY UNEXPLAINED GUCKERT VISITS
FORGIVE MY CAPS -- KEY IS LOCKED.

THIS STUFF IS ALL OVER DU TONIGHT -
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3537312#3537327


EDITOR AND PUBLISHER - GOING "NOWHERE"
Jeff Gannon Exposed: In 'Doonesbury' and in New Documents
By E&P Staff
Published: April 24, 2005 10:30 PM

NEW YORK The reporter/blogger formerly known as James D. Guckert, who had pretty much escaped the public eye this month, staged a dramatic comeback on Sunday, re-appearing in Doonesbury and making news as Secret Service documents concerning his White House visits were released.

The Secret Service papers had been requested by two Democrats in Congress, Rep. John Conyers and Rep. Louise Slaughter. According to the blog Raw Story, they show that Guckert, who wrote for two pro-GOP Web sites under the pen name Jeff Gannon, made more than 200 appearances at the White House during his two-year tenure.

This included attending 155 press briefings, and at least two presidential press conferences, all on a “day pass.” More surprising, according to the documents: Guckert got into the White House three dozen times when there were no scheduled briefings. And on at least 14 occasions, Raw Story reported, “Secret Service records show either the entry or exit time missing.”

http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp...
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flpeach Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 03:08 AM
Response to Reply #45
46. Spiralhawk . . .
Is Guckert's chart "lit up" at the moment? Will the MSM pick up on this story or will they just ignore it? The Scorpio Moon eclipse has a sexual overtone, does it not? With "secrets" a big whopper?

Life is interesting, and getting more so!
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:02 AM
Response to Reply #46
47. I feel the drip, drip, drip of the bloggers on the Guckert story
will sooner or later prompt the MSM to do its job and tell the story.

Since we cannot yet be certain of Guckert's birth date -- not to mention time and place -- I am unable to speculate about Guckert's chart being "lit up." My hunch, though, is that his Moon is really somewhere between 6-8 Pisces. If so, his chart will be "lit up" for the rest of the year, and we will have more "shocking" revelations.

If we have the correct birthdate (see earlier posts in this thread), that puts Guckert's natal Uranus at 3.37 Leo -- and so the Scorpio eclipse of Sunday would have squared his Uranus -- just as the latest revelations about White House access were revealed.

My ultimate hunch: much more to come on this story.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 02:39 PM
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48. "Jeff Gannon" Uninvited to WHCA Dinner


http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000903116

'Jeff Gannon,' Uninvited to WHCA Dinner, Heads to Bill Maher's HBO Show
By Joe Strupp

Published: April 29, 2005 10:40 AM ET - Editor & Publisher

NEW YORK James D. Guckert, aka Jeff Gannon, has proved his critics wrong on at least one count: His 15 minutes of fame just won't expire.

Need more proof? He's set to appear on Bill Maher's live HBO show tonight at 11 p.m. EDT, along with Sen. Charles Schumer, Martin Short, and others. On his Web site today, Gannon announces: "I'll go one on one with . ... We're going to talk about politics, last night's presidential press conference, and probably some other stuff."

The HBO Web site confirms that Gannon is slated to appear.
However, the former White House correspondent, and reputed male escort, did not get the invitation he had expected to the White House Correspondents Association dinner tomorrow night. Gannon, who quit his job with Talon News earlier this year after two years of covering the White House for the GOP-linked site, told the New York Post that he did not get invited to the annual WHCA gathering, slated for Saturday night in Washington.

Gannon had told E&P several months ago that he was sure to get an invite. But, according to the Post, it did not come through. "It seems to me to be odd to exclude the one person who has brought more attention to the White House press corps than anyone else in years," Gannon told the Post. "Probably many who would want to extend such an invitation already assume I will be in attendance."

Gannon's Web site, www.jeffgannon.com, makes no mention of the upcoming dinner.
Don't look for Bill Maher to be too cozy with Gannon. In one show this year, Maher commented on Gannon's past, saying, "Now I know what Bush meant when he said he had a man date."
<</SNIP>>

DU discussion thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1433630
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 04:57 PM
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49. Press Takes a Pass on Jeff Gannon Story
Press Takes a Pass on 'Jeff Gannon' Story
Edited on Wed May-04-05 03:53 PM by SpiralHawk


Press Fails in its Fundamental Responsibility to Inform the Public


THE PRESS TAKES A PASS ON 'JEFF GANNON'
By Carol Towarnicky
Philly.Com
May 2, 2005

http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/11541660.htm

If a reporter who doubled as a gay hooker had visited the Clinton White House nearly 200 times, think it would have made the news?

If "Jeff Gannon"/James D. Guckert had been unveiled, so to speak, as a liberal imposter who lobbed softball questions at Clinton administration press briefings, he would be as infamous as Michael Schiavo.

And if 39 of those White House visits were mysteriously unrelated to his"reporting" duties, imagine what innuendoes would be issuing forth from Planet Limbaugh. Imagine the organized phone call campaign demanding newspapers and TV stations report the story.

But Gannon/Guckert isn't being unveiled or innuendoed or even blipped on media radar screens, even among liberals.

(snip)

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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 03:58 PM
Response to Original message
50. Boston Globe claims "Gannon" allegations never proven
DU discussion thread on this story, good analysis

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1793689

Boston Globe: Gannon / Guckert allegations were "never proven"



http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/05/17/gannons_story_left_critics_tarnished_too/

Gannon's story left critics tarnished, too

By Peter S. Canellos, Globe Staff | May 17, 2005

WASHINGTON -- Jeff Gannon's 15 minutes of fame is running a little long, with a lengthy profile in June's Vanity Fair in which the onetime White House reporter for a website run by a Republican fund-raiser talks about his newfound celebrity.

Gannon's odd journey -- which began after he asked a comically flattering question to President Bush at a news conference in January, continued when numerous bloggers attacked him as a Republican operative planted amid the press corps, and took an odd turn when photos of him as a gay prostitute showed up on the Internet -- is a landmark: the first Washington scandal based entirely in cyberspace. It started with a website, was exposed and pursued by online journalists, and featured sordid pictures from the Internet.

Despite the sex pictures, the linchpin of the scandal was always the allegation that Bush and/or his press secretary, Scott McClellan, catered to Gannon so that his softball questions would make the president look good. Having Gannon in the press room allowed McClellan to change the subject whenever a mainstream reporter began to bore in with a tough line of questioning, according to the bloggers who promoted the story.

But the allegation was never proven. McClellan argued that he called on questioners in a routine manner, getting to Gannon only after fielding inquiries from larger news outlets in a fairly predictable order. Veteran White House correspondents backed him up. Meanwhile, McClellan maintained that his office did not give Gannon favorable treatment in getting a press pass. Former White House press secretaries from the Clinton administration generally sided with McClellan.

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