Anybody read Mark Warner's chart?

[FreedomAngel82]

Ever since I first heard his name (well read actually) back in March that he went to a Bilderberg meeting I had this strong feeling he would be running for president in 2008. Now he's doing appearances here and there. So far he's appeared at least twice in New Hampshire and last Sunday was in South Carolina (actually Tuesday or Wednesday but aired Sunday). So does anybody sense anything with him? Bill Clinton also has met secretly with Warner around Thanksgiving. I don't think Hillary is running in 2008 frankly. I think it's just a diversion plan. Call it a "gut" feeling and usually when it's a strong feeling like it is about something it turns out right. So what do you all think of Warner and what's his chart say? Also how do you think he would do as president? I think he could be similar to Bill by looking at what he has done in Virginia.

[FreedomAngel82]

1. Anybody?

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[I Have A Dream]

2. I don't do astrological charts, so I can't help. I also don't know...

enough about him to be able to give an opinion about how he would govern if he were elected president. However, I think that I need to start learning more about him. My gut tells me that he will run in 2008.

Sorry that I can't really answer beyond this, but it's the best that I can give to you given my knowledge.

[BlueIris]

3. I've tried to do Warner, but can't locate a birth time.

He's the second governor I've attempted to chart, (Phil Breseden was the first) for the purposes of determining 2008 prospects. To me, lunar influence counts for a lot, especially for us amateurs. I wouldn't want to try to figure out what's going to happen there without it.

I'm quite certain Hillary will make a token run next time, but won't be the nominee. And I agree with you FA82, the Hillary buzz now is a diversionary tactic of sorts...sort of. Okay, for those of you I promised to PM about 2008, I'll do that later tonight. All I'll post now is that even if Warner runs, I...don't think he's going to get it.

[FreedomAngel82]

4. I think he might get it

My "gut" feeling about him is strong but it keeps coming and going though. I also think Feingold is going to do so. Why did you chart Bredesen? I'm wondering since he's my governor. What did you get with him?

[oxbow]

5. as a virginian, I am confident he will run

he's not saying anything definitive, but he's definitely setting things up backstage for an '08 run. He would make a good centrist pres., much better than hillary, who's really a social conservative in dem's clothing as far as I've seen.

[FreedomAngel82]

6. I think so too

I think he would be great for DC. He seemed to do a lot of great things in Virginia. I also think he's setting up for a run. I don't think any of them are going to announce until after the midterms which is a smart move. I don't think Hillary is running quite frankly. Has anybody read her chart?
I think they will be supporting him and have read that Bill met with Warner during Thanksgiving secretly and Warner has a pac that is helping other canidates raise money and stuff. He's appeared on "Road to the White House" three times now I believe.

[oxbow]

7. sorry, I don't know how to read charts

last poll I saw of democrats though, something like 45% wanted hillary as a candidate and only 14% wanted Warner. I didn't check the methodology of that poll though, so I can't say how accurate it was.

It may be paranoia on my part, but I think some on the right are pushing for Hillary to run more than the left.

[BlueIris]

8. I take back what I posted above (sorta).

Without knowing birth time, and with the caveat that I am a total amatuer--in terms of presidential possibilities, Warner's chart is, as a wacky astro-loving friend of mine says, hot right now. I still feel, as a Kerry supporter, confident that Warner will not be the nominee next time, but--uh, I take back what I wrote about his not having high potential. It's high; extremely high. It's hard to tell for sure what will and won't be a part of his forecast between now and '08 without a birthtime, (can any VA residents attempt to get that for us, by the way?) yet...basically, he's got heavy Pluto action in his transits between now and late '07. I almost feel that--it could go either way, and may come down to Warner's own personal desires at this time. And even if he passes on the presidency now...he is one to watch.

ETA: I would have more to post about what I think the ticket, even at this early stage, is shaping up to be--but studying more about Warner has (amazingly) changed my perspectives a little. Or, a lot. Before anyone jumps on me, I did read up on Warner's actual history and record a couple of months ago, before I considered the astro angle or other factors. Man, I can't believed I missed him.

[FreedomAngel82]

9. I think he'll be a surprise too

I think right now it's smart to not say anything about running until after 2006.