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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 03:05 PM
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Julie & Julia: A Review


Went to see Julie & Julia yesterday afternoon. My SO and I usually like going to matinees because it leaves our evenings free for our favorite activity.... eating out at really good restaurants. :-)

Anyway, I had a feeling this movie would be popular but I didn't know just how much so. Unlike other matinees when we have the theatre practically to ourselves, the theatre was just about FULL, on a sunny Saturday afternoon! We settled into our seats and finally, the movie started.

It opens with the Childs arriving in Paris for Paul's assignment at the American Embassy there. The costumes and evocation of mid-twentieth century design for their story is spot on. The dresses are perfect. And if that's the real apartment where the Childs lived, it is idyllic. I'd give my left eye tooth to live there. Glass and Mirror hallway, small and elegantly put together kitchen (nothing fancy though), lovely sitting room with the previous century's furniture and a cozy fireplace of course, with what appeared to be a coal stove.

Meanwhile back in 2002, Julie and her husband are moving to a walk-up in Queens. The 900-square feet they have here is evidently bigger than their place in Brooklyn. The kitchen is tiny. I swear it is no bigger than my little bathroom. It is a feat indeed just to cook in that minuscule space.

This production is a movie of contrasts and parallels: Julie/Julia, Julia/other women of her time, Julie/other women in her time as well. The rest of the movie is spend going back and forth from present-day New York to 1950s Paris in some well-timed transitions. When you are jumping time lines like this, it can get tricky to keep a viewer interested and Nora Ephron does a good job of not letting you get lost in either narrative.

As soon as they get to Paris, Julia is at a loss as to what to do with herself. She finds the then normal life of a diplomat's wife boring. Hobbies like millinery, and bridge lesson just don't fill the bill. Julia's got more on the ball than that. There's a quasi-montage of Julia trying to figure out what to do with herself while Paul is at work. This is comforting to those of us who have struggled the hard way to find our calling in this life. "Shouldn't I have SOMEthing to DOooooo?" She intones to her hubby over yet another sumptuous restaurant dinner.

Paul says, "Well, what do you like to do?"
"Eat!", she laughs while sticking another forkful into her mouth.

Eventually, Julia makes her way to Le Cordon Bleu cooking school. She doesn't impress the all male students and staff at first. And she's convinced the matronly administrator hates her. But, she practices hard at home. There's a great scene with Julia chopping away on some onions at home. It's not till the camera pans back that you see the mountain of chopped onions! Paul comes up the kitchen stairs only to be beaten back by the overwhelming odor.

We also get to see how Julia came to work with her two collaborators, Simone Beck and Louise Bertholle. They met in the powder room at an Embassy function. Bertholle is portrayed as a lightweight collaborator, so much so that Simone ("Simca") and Julia cut her share of the book profits to 18%. I'm not sure how Mme. Bertholle's family feels about that. The story of how the book came to be could be its own movie, I think. There was a very long delay, over a decade?, between their working on it and finding an enthusiastic publisher.

Julie, already a pretty good cook and feeling left out of the seemingly more high-flying lives of her friends, finally figures out that she could blog about cooking. Even better, blog about a favorite childhood memory: her mom's copy of Mastering the Art of French Cooking which she absconded with on her last trip home to Texas.

It's not explained how in the film, but Julie also watches the original episodes of The French Chef. Either WNET was rerunning them or Julie was able to get them on video. I would love to know if it's out on DVD now. I have a copy of Julie Powell's book and maybe she says in there.

Also, what movie about Julia Child would be complete without the infamous Dan Akroyd SNL homage? It's here too in all it's gory hilarity.

The main criticism of this movie has been that the modern story is weak. I think that's unfair. Does Julie come across as a little neurotic. Well, yes, especially when contrasted with the feisty Julia Child. But Julie tells her story with all the foibles and uncertainties of the present. Julia on the other hand, had nearly a lifetime to simmer her life and come up with a compelling story. My Life in Paris was published in 1994, I think. That's a good forty years after the fact. You can forget a lot of your angst at birthing something new in that time.

This is clearly a movie born out of love: love of food, love of one's spouse, and love of life. It made me laugh and smile for nearly its two and a half hour running time.

A word about the husbands: we should al be so lucky to find such supportive mates. They may have eaten the drugstore out of TUMs and Alka-Seltzer, but they didn't let their spouses give up on their dreams.
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 03:34 PM
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1. Most excellent review.
Edited on Sun Aug-09-09 03:54 PM by wakemeupwhenitsover
:thumbsup:

And I'll definitely brave the megacomplex to see it.

And you're right. We should all have such supportive SOs. Paul agreed wholeheartedly with Julia going to Le Cordon Bleu. Paul made $95 a week, according to Julia in My Life in France & the school cost $450 plus another dollar or so a day for the afternoon classes she took. That was a substantial chunk of their income for something that had no guarantee of any payback. It wasn't the same as financing a partner's MBA or PhD. I don't think that either could have had any idea that it would lead to what it did. Julia said that she had thought of opening a restaurant, but it wasn't a concrete goal, plus a degree from LCB wouldn't probably have been necessary. And then she changed her mind & wanted to write a cookbook, but that seems kind of pie in the sky too. And as far as a money maker, I think the only cookbook that was a huge seller was The Joy of Cooking. Julia had met Irma & knew that she got screwed on royalties. It probably would have made her cautious about her dealings with publishers, but she would have had to realize that cookbook writing wasn't a get rich scheme. So, she was doing this for herself with Paul's support & encouragement.

And she & Beck & Bertholle (well, not Bertholle: all she did was give sides & wines to serve with the main courses) worked on MTAoFC for 10 years before it was published. A long time to watch your SO drag around a typewriter & index cards.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 03:51 PM
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2. The meeting with Irma Rombauer
is in J&J too. It made me horribly sad for her.

I think there are several lessons here for those of us looking to get published.

1) Don't give up. Just keep working and keep showing your work.

2) When you get a contract, get your own lawyer to review it for you to make sure you aren't screwed out of things like additional publishing rights and royalties.



I didn't realize the tuition at LCB was so much of his take home. Kudos to Paul. :applause:

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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 04:04 PM
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3. Irma got screwed royally, didn't she?
I thought I read somewhere that she only made about $500. Pathetic for how many of the books have been sold. It's still a bestseller, even today with all the brazillion cookbooks on the market.

Julia & gang trotted that book around to several publishers. She was somewhat lucky because she knew so many people, but she also never really gave up. She had a few blue periods towards the end where she doubted that it would get published, but she would kinda pick herself up & try again. And she got really, really lucky with Judith Jones who was a total franchophile & really pushed the book at Knopf.

From the clip I watched, it looks like Julie's DH was also very supportive. DH would probably push for me to be committed if I tried to cook my way through the whole book. A dish here & there is great, but cooking the whole book? Madness.

I didn't even realize that was Amy Adams from Enchanted. Boy, talk about a transformation.

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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 07:02 PM
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5. Amy Adams is really a great actress
She was great in Junebug, of which I have a copy. :-)
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 07:28 PM
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7. Junebug, my daughter's nickname!
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 12:55 PM
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11. Is she as cute as a Junebug?
:D
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 04:03 PM
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15. She WAS (when we first gave her the nickname!)
NOW, she's just beautiful! (She's 21!)
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 11:41 PM
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9. That's your agent's job -
you don't need to have a lawyer go over a publishing contract - that's what your agent does, with your (and the agent's) best interests at heart. Most agents know more about the intricacies of publishing Ks than most lawyers, anyway.

They're fairly standard, and not out to screw the author, contrary to what some people might think. It's a rough business, but if you're dealing with pros and not some fly-by-night outfit, you're fine if you're represented by a good agent.........
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 12:57 PM
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12. You are right about IR
I don't think she had an agent. She just sent the book off to the publisher blind.

Ah, for the days when publishers actually read the slush pile!
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 03:00 PM
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14. There's no such thing as a slush pile -
there's no such thing as "over the transom."

Hell, most people don't even know what a transom is.

Yes, things have changed. It's all about the agent now, and the bigger you can sign with, the better.

Kind of too bad. When I read about the old days, I find myself yearning..............................................
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 04:44 PM
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4. Wonderful review!
What a wonderful review-writer you are! Your review is professional, informative and interesting, and definitely re-inforces my desire to see the movie (this week, I hope). Thanks so much for all your background information, too. I commend you for your excellent post. :applause:

I had the pleasure of watching many hours of "Baking with Julia" on PBS yesterday... one of my local stations broadcast almost the entire series! I saved many of them on DVR but would love to have a permanent format for future reference and pleasure, since some day I'm going to have to give the DVR back to the cable company.




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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 07:03 PM
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6. Thank you housewolf,
:D


I enjoy reviewing movies. It's fun. :-)
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 11:19 PM
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8. And you gave an excellent review..
I am dying to see it.

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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 04:23 AM
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10. Thanks for a great review!
Its playing at theaters near my new place, so I expect to take myself out next weekend and beyond!!!
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 12:58 PM
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13. Thank you elleng
It really is a fun two hours. :D
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 06:21 PM
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16. See also: "My Life in France" and "Appetite for Life".
First is an autobiography, second is a biography.
I've read the first one (terrific) and have the second one on request at our library.
Just saw the movie and it is fantastic.
Great review.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:07 PM
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17. Took My Daughter Yesterday -- Sunday Matinee in Rockville MD
and we both enjoyed it very much. The part in Paris was a great period setting and very well photographed. The script was good, and even though the modern story was very ordinary in a sense, it was absorbing. The concept of the two stories sounded artificial, and I wasn't sure it was going to work, but Nora Ephron did a good job making it flow and seen natural.

About half an hour into the movie I had tears of laughter runnings down my face -- not from the dialogue, but from the audience reaction. No one seemed to know how to deal with witty repartee. Half the funny lines drew no response and the other half were treated like slapstick. In the onion-cutting episode mentioned above, when the mountain of onions were shown, people guffawed like it was the Three Stooges. When Julia's husband couldn't come in because the smell was too strong, they slapped their knees and roared. It was just really odd. I think I will remember that longer than the movie itself.

Although to be honest, I laughed at odd times. When Julia's husband proposed getting a bottle of wine to celebrate, she just came out with that little burble of delight you heard whenever the wine was brought in on her showc. It was hysterical.

Meryl Streep was a surprisingly good Julia -- it was difficult to see her in that role, but she really sold it. I think it was the voice, which was dead on. Only person who did a better job was my ex-wife, who also looked a little like the real Julia.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 01:53 PM
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18. Julie's original blog
is still up at Salon.com and as of today, it's the most read blog at Salon. :D

If you're so inclined, here it is in its original form:

http://blogs.salon.com/0001399/2002/08/25.html
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 10:18 AM
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19. It's too bad only the first two months are there
but it was enough to get me to remember my own experience with that cookbook.

I still do Julia's potage Parmentier nearly every week. I could taste the chicken with sauce soubise. I only made that one once because I hated pushing stuff through a sieve, but it was great. It's odd, considering I did get a food mill a few years later, but it just never occurred to me to repeat it.

My Julia Child kitchen was an 8X8 cubby with a homemade counter and I still remember it as the easiest kitchen I ever had to work in.

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pengillian101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 05:53 PM
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21. Actually, it's more than two months - more like two years of posts
When you go to the link, you'll see the calendar on the right with July and August highlighted in blue. Click on August and it will advance you to the next month, and etc. I read a few entries throughout the 2002-2004 time frame.

I bet the movie is good and can't wait to see it. PBS has been showing some old Julia shows lately which are great fun to watch.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 09:32 PM
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22. It stops at the end of November
Edited on Sun Aug-16-09 09:33 PM by Warpy
It was probably done that way to encourage people to buy the book.
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pengillian101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 09:47 PM
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23. I bet you are right about that!
"It was probably done that way to encourage people to buy the book."

Honestly - two years' worth of that boring Julie from NY blog posts were online just a day or so ago.

:hi:
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 06:43 PM
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20. supernova:
The dvd's are all available on Amazon. I own them all.

In "My Life in France", Julia writes that the apartment in Paris had great potential but that it had horrid furniture and decor that they took out and then redecorated. I just loved that book, every single page.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 12:43 AM
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24. I saw this movie last night with a friend.
Edited on Sat Aug-22-09 01:03 AM by Beacool
We both enjoyed it tremendously. Meryl Streep is great at capturing Julia's essence and "joie de vivre". Amy Adams is adorable as Julie, even though her character is a tad obsessed and neurotic. Kudos also to the actors who portrayed their patient and loving husbands.

The movie made me want to try my hand at Julia's "boeuf bourguignon". I'll never forget the tip to pat dry the meat before browning.

http://blog.al.com/sugar-and-spice/2009/08/julia_childs_boeuf_bourguignon.html

I must admit that, even though I have a fairly good sized collection of cook books, I don't have Julia's first opus. I'm going to remedy that situation right away.

:)

I forgot to add that the waiting room where Julia and Simca waited for Julia's pen pal is the waiting room of the train terminal in my town of Hoboken, NJ. On our way home we stopped at the terminal and I sat on the spot where Meryl sat. It's a truly lovely waiting room and the stained glass skylight is beautiful.
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pengillian101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-14-10 08:37 PM
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25. Your movie review was spot on!
Dish Network is just now showing this as a pay-per-view movie.

I remembered your review, and the movie did not disappoint! It was just great.
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-14-10 11:44 PM
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26. I got a free RedBox movie and this is what I chose!
I totally agree!

:thumbsup:
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 08:37 AM
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27. Someone lent us the DVD.
We watched it last weekend. We laughed, albeit very lightly, a couple of times but we both agreed that it was pretty...Meh. :shrug:
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