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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:38 PM
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Pro Choice = "Save Roe"?
How does that resonate with you? The graphic design is striking, the short syllables are snappy-- but what are we saying? What marketing guru came up with this-- and are they really on our side?

Maybe it's just me that notices FIRST the unfortunate association with fish eggs.

Personally, I don't find "Roe v. Wade" has many syllables.

"Save Roe"-- fish eggs

"Save Roe v. Wade"-- Supreme court decision.

What do you think?
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:41 PM
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1. How about this?
"Pro-life isn't."

I've been outraged for years about how the pro-choice people let the rightwingnuts co-opt the language and fashion themselves "pro-life," leaving the implication that we are "anti-life."

When will lefties learn that the words are where the war is won?
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:59 PM
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2. Touche
"Pro-life isn't"
"The Moral Majority is neither"

"When will lefties learn that the words are where the war is won?"

It seems that everyone's savvy to the marketing of politics, the "framing" of issues, the spinning of spin-- which is why I ask about this "Roe" thing.

A bit too snappy-- as if "Roevwade" takes too long. And they're counting on the illiteracy of Americans to not know "roe" are fish eggs?



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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:09 PM
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3. I bet most people don't know that fish eggs are called roe.
I'm wondering if they aren't thinking that Roe sounds like the name of a person (of course it is, but bear with me).

And that "Save Roe" sounds like we're trying to keep someone alive.


Making any sense?
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:22 PM
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4. Yep, our good buddy "Roe" an old friend from way back in the 70's
Back when people knew big words. :evilgrin: (or had time to say them............... :yoiks: )

Guess that's why I'm not a perfessionul propagandist-- I mean marketer-- I mean PR flack-- I mean...........
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:48 PM
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5. Yep.
It's all about hip slogans now.

I guess they figure it will work for us too.

That whole "choose life" crap, remember?
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:22 AM
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6. Marketing-- not hip, not even slogans... sales pitches designed for
suckers.

Cynicism of marketers contained in the message backfires, one way or another.

Okay, I'm goin back to the "Rosa Parks Correroration" thread

Chow :hi:
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:58 PM
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7. I find myself constantly 'correcting' progressives about
Pro-Choice/Anti-Choice. Anti-Choice sounds terribly undemocratic and totally totalitarian. A radical nun calls anti-choice people 'pro-fetus, anti-child.' That certainly is the TRUTH!
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:43 PM
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8. That's great. Very clear and accurate. Simple. Without rejecting history
of the movement and previous campaigns. Discussions seen on DU Big Forums that want to "reframe" and twist the rhetoric to convince imaginary voters (who are presumably squeamish about women's rights) seem misguided.

:kick:

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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 11:15 PM
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9. I am so damn tired of this 'effort' on the part of
Dems/progressives/liberals to 'reframe' Choice. (It sounds like they are trying to sell the idea that a woman can be only a little bit pregnant.) I felt betrayed by the Dem party after '04's Election...it seemed as if they pointed the finger at Pro-Choice Women and said, 'You are the reason we lost.' Hillary, Dean, Kerry....all of them said something to that effect.

Dems come around every 4 years and 'court' Women and Blacks...it's getting very very old. I would like to see a truly Progressive Party develop...something totally anti-DLC.

It's late...so I won't go into my tirade about irresponsible ejaculation! Do these politicians think women become pregnant by themselves? Shit, it is the same stuff I dealt with back in the '70's. Doesn't society ever EVOLVE?
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 11:39 PM
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10. Yep, that "effort," finger-pointing and phony pandering will backfire
again

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