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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:43 AM
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Natural Remedies for Radiation and Toxic Overload
Our three sources of oxygen — food, water and air — are polluted and bound with toxins. All forms of pollution starve our bodies of essential oxygen.

There are a number of foods that can better help our bodies tolerate the effects of pollution and radiation. Keep in mind that the kidneys are one of the first organs to suffer from radiation damage. Eating lower on the food chain minimizes our chemical intake.

The seed buckwheat is high in rutin, helps to protect against radiation and stimulates new bone marrow production. The mucilaginous fibers in seaweed (such as kelp, kombu, arame, nori, sea lettuce, dulse, wakame and hiziki) help to prevent the reabsorption of radioactive strontium 90, barium, cadmium and radium by binding with them and carrying them out of the body. Sea vegetables are also high in natural iodine, which can load the thyroid, so that radiation is not absorbed. Eat two tablespoons daily for protection and be careful of overdoing. Be sure seaweeds are from clean waters like www.seaweed.net, or www.seaveg.com.

Following the bombing of Nagasaki, a group of surviving macrobiotic doctors and their patients avoided radiation sickness by eating brown rice, miso soup, seaweed Hokkaido pumpkin, and sea salt and were told to avoid sugar and white flour products. These patients did not get leukemia, though the hospital was only one mile from the bombsite!

Read more: http://www.care2.com/greenliving/natural-remedies-for-radiation-and-toxic-overload.html#ixzz1HF1YPhrb
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:54 AM
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1. Interesting read!
Thanks for the post!
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:59 AM
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2. Kick n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 10:02 AM
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3. Seaweed? Isn't it all glowing too?
Good luck.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 10:43 AM
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6. not Atlantic seaweed (at least, not in the immediate future)
I've always got our sea veggies from a local Maine company
(one of the links in the OP http://www.seaveg.com )

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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 10:55 AM
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7. Well, just think of the glowing stuff as if it were yellow snow.
:rofl:
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HERVEPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 10:04 AM
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4. Anything subjected to scientific rigor, or just anecdotal evidence?
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 10:26 AM
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5. Good question.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 11:52 AM
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14. see
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 10:57 AM
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8. This is complete horseshit
I don't alert on posts but this should not be posted as if if were a fact.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 11:22 AM
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10. It is not posted as fact.
It is an interesting article that people can use to start their own research.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 11:36 AM
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11. No, it is dangerous pernicious nonsense
You should be ashamed of yourself.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 11:38 AM
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12. And you can prove that how?
No, I am not ashamed of myself, at all.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:04 PM
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20. You seem to be confused as to who has the burden of proof in this situation.
Not surprising though, given the sorry state of science education and the alarming level of anti-intellectualism in this country.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:05 PM
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21. I have already proved my point.
If you read further down.

Two people have called bullshit on my posts - and both have been proven wrong.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:10 PM
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25. No, they haven't.
You only wish that. Which I know is also how you can create your own reality, so I guess that's why you think your work is done.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:24 PM
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30. The two items that were called out as bullshit, were not.
I do not "think my work is done" - that is not my point. My point was that the people who called out the bullshit would not be able to prove their assertions.

Just as your sentence above has nothing of substance - no facts to support your claims - you just paint with a broad brush as if you know everything. I have never claimed and never believed I knew everything. I try to learn. In all of the posts above, I am the only one who has provided links and references to the challenges to the original article.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:57 PM
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33. Yeah, you do think you've done enough.
By linking to a single study looking at one particular isotope in a limited experimental setting, you think you've just proved the whole original article valid. Despite it having ludicrous statements like the one about garlic.

Here's a little tidbit: if a gamma ray happens to hit just the right DNA molecule in your body, it won't matter what you eat. You will get cancer.
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BuddhaGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:02 PM
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40. +1
n/t
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 11:46 AM
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13. Really, horseshit ?
Suppression of radioactive strontium absorption by sodium alginate in animals and human subjects.

Gong YF, Huang ZJ, Qiang MY, Lan FX, Bai GA, Mao YX, Ma XP, Zhang FG.

Institute of Radiation Medicine, Beijing, China.
Abstract

The effect of 23 sodium alginate preparations from different species of algae (Sargassum sp.) and kelp (Laminaria sp.) on reducing the absorption of strontium was studied in detail. A pilot production procedure has been established. Na alginate from S. siliquastrum was proven to be a potent agent for reducing Sr absorption, with high efficiency and virtually no toxicity. It reduced the body burden of strontium 3.3-4.2 fold in rats. Strontium absorption in human subjects was reduced by 78% (+/- 8.9) or completely suppressed the increase of serum Sr at 2 h after ingestion of stable Sr in volunteers and decrease 24 h urine Sr to similar extent. No undesirable effects on gastrointestinal function was observed nor were Ca, Fe, Cu and Zn metabolism changed, both in the animal experiments and in human. It was concluded that alginate preparations derived from Sargassum species are a suitable antidote against radiostrontium absorption on a long-term basis, when added to bread at a 6% level. In cases of emergency, an alginate syrup preparation appears to be more suitable because of its rapid action.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1764217

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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 11:57 AM
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15. "Garlic keeps radioactive isotopes from being absorbed." Yeah. Horeshit.
At least.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 12:00 PM
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16. Where did you see that?
Edited on Mon Mar-21-11 12:01 PM by tabatha
It is not in either article to which I linked. Maybe your eyes are playing tricks on you - but I did not see anything about garlic.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 12:24 PM
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17. Your lack of vigor is completely unsurprising.
It is in the article you posted.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 12:51 PM
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18. I missed one sentence out of several.
However, from reading the following it is quite clear that garlic may in fact do what was claimed.

Glutathione is a sulfur-based detoxification agent that can remove phthalates from deeper body tissue sites, as well can remove other toxins from your system. However, this natural molecule is produced by the body itself only if you have the genetic traits to permit its healthy production. Sulfur containing foods that promote the production of glutathione include garlic, onions, broccoli, kale, cauliflower, watercress, bio-active whey protein-the clear liquid that comes off of the top of yogurt (it comes from milk protein products that have not been de-natured-non-pasteurized milk, etc).



Data on laboratory experiments in vitro and in vivo, and in limited human studies suggest that a mixture of dietary antioxidants and glutathione-elevating agents at appropriate doses can be formulated to protect normal tissues against somatic and heritable mutations, as well as cancer and birth defects. Thus, the use of such antioxidant preparations can extend the concept of ALARA from dose to biological damage for radiation workers. In addition, such antioxidants can also protect patients receiving diagnostic doses against radiation damage, no matter how small that damage that might be. A clinical study to evaluate the radioprotective value of antioxidants should be evaluated among patients receiving diagnostic radiation, using measures of oxidative stress and frequency of mutations (chromosomal damage).
http://bjr.birjournals.org/cgi/content/full/77/914/97


If you can better the above, I would love to read it as an educational exercise. I would prefer that ad hominems be avoided. I actually appreciate that you called this out, because I have learned a lot more. And since you were obviously unaware of the above, maybe you have, too.

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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:09 PM
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24. I have read that glutathione is perhaps the most important antioxidant --
--in the human body. It is used to treat chronic fatigue immune dysfunction syndrome (CFIDS), AKA chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) and myalgic encephalomyelitis (ME). I should correct that. A glutathione precursor is used by some to treat CFIDS, because glutathione on its own doesn't make it through the digestive tract.

By the way, there is a school of thought -- based on real research, by the way -- that CFIDS is caused by a combination of exposure to low level radiation and a toxin from blue-green algae, called ciguatera.

See www.ncf-net.org

I can't understand the research myself, but I've had CFIDS for most of my life and am now on disability from my job for it. Unwillingingly, that is. I didn't ask for it. My 17-year-old daughter has it as well.

If I understand it correctly, they call this toxin a ciguatera epitope, because it is not precisely the same thing, but is very close. And apparently there is a lot of ciguatera poisoning in the South Pacific that is being blamed on radiation from nuclear testing. I don't understand this, as I said.

The idea, I think, is that the radiation somehow keeps the toxin reproducing itself forever, so you never can get completely rid of it. Whatever it is, it definitely makes you sick. And for some reason the US Government has treated the whole disease very badly in terms of funding for research, and the way the NIH and the CDC treat it. I think they only fund research that supports CFIDS being either caused by stress or a bad attitude, in spite of all the research that says that isn't so.

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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:16 PM
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28. There are toxins in algae, of which there are many types.
I feel bad for you for having CFIDS. I hope that something can help you or your daughter.

(Thanks for a reasonable post.)

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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:05 PM
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37. So "reasonable" = "not questioning the absurd claims in my original article"
OK, understood.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:11 PM
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26. Pretty boxes and good job on the C&P but your link doesn't even have the word "garlic" in it.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:18 PM
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29. I guess you are being facetious.
Sulfur containing foods that promote the production of glutathione include garlic, onions, ............
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:32 PM
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31. Yeah. *Still* not in the link you provided.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:49 PM
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32. Yeah, sigh, I am doing this at work.
There were supposed to be two links.

I lost the first. Here is a better link.



Garlic and neem leaf extracts enhance hepatic glutathione and glutathione dependent enzymes during N-methyl-N'-nitro-N-nitrosoguanidine (MNNG)-induced gastric carcinogenesis in rats.

Arivazhagan S, Balasenthil S, Nagini S.

Department of Biochemistry, Annamalai University, Annamalainagar 608 002, Tamil Nadu, India.
Abstract

The protective effect of garlic (Allium sativum L.) and neem leaf (Azadirachta indica A. Juss.) was investigated on hepatic lipid peroxidation and antioxidant status during N-methyl-N'-nitro-N-nitrosoguanidine (MNNG)-induced gastric carcinogenesis in male Wistar rats. Enhanced lipid peroxidation in the liver of tumour-bearing animals was accompanied by significant decreases in the activities of glutathione peroxidase (GPx), glutathione-S-transferase (GST), gamma-glutamyl transpeptidase (GGT) and reduced glutathione (GSH) levels. Administration of garlic and neem leaf extracts significantly lowered lipid peroxidation and enhanced the hepatic levels of glutathione and glutathione dependent enzymes. We speculate that garlic and neem leaf significantly alter cancer development at extrahepatic sites by influencing hepatic biotransformation enzymes and antioxidants.
Copyright 2000 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd.



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10861977



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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 03:29 PM
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34. This is the problem with just finding random words you think mean something in random abstracts
Edited on Mon Mar-21-11 04:24 PM by Maru Kitteh
1/ It's an abstract only from a single experiment/observation done over a decade ago
2/ One study is evidence of nothing
3/ The conclusions are drawn from results that, from the abstract, appear process dependent - unless you are a male rat with induced stomach cancer, it means literally nothing
4/ NONE of it shows "Garlic keeps radioactive isotopes from being absorbed" which is where this all started.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 03:39 PM
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35. When you're done with that one, maybe you can tell us how wheatgrass "transports oxygen"
in the body.

I've looked at a lot of blood smears, and not once did I see a little chunk of wheatgrass in there busy running around transporting oxygen.

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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 04:21 PM
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36. and tell us how taking a bath in magnesium sulfate can "draw radiation and toxins out of the body"
can't wait for that one.
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 12:56 PM
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19. Maybe you could help me find it?
It may be right under my nose, but I haven't found it yet.

It seems a little bit over-reacting to me to assume that any such thing is impossible, either. Lots of effective pharmaceuticals come from nature. A little foxglove for your heart trouble?
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:06 PM
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22. It is on page 2.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:09 PM
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23. Page 2, paragraph 2.
And I'll see you your foxglove, and raise you some blue cohosh, ephedra, and oleander.
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:14 PM
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27. Thanks.

I should be more interested myself, and I should probably take some for CFIDS. But I HATE seaweed. BLEGH !

I actually did take some algae for a long time, and it didn't help, but as it turned out, at that time I was not absorbing my food very well, if at all. So how could it help? I wasted away until I was model thing, about 90 pounds. Never looked better in my entire life. Too bad I trembled non-stop and could barely tell you my name at the time.

Now I'm over 175 lbs. But I don't tremble anymore, and I can remember my name and several other facts.

I should try it. So thanks to Tabatha.

(I'm pretty sure I'm not posting this right, so I hope Tabatha sees this.)
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 11:07 AM
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9. Well, I'm stocked up on nori, wakame, and kombu
Being 100 miles away from Fukushima Daiichi, I hope they actually do have radiation-mitigating properties.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:20 PM
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38. Just to say...
that I would strongly recommend that people unfortunate enough to have been close to a radioactive area should take advice from people familiar with the specific situation. I would not take advice on such matters from a site such as Greenliving, which, however well-intentioned, includes material on astrology and spirituality, which renders it suspect as provider of information on nutrition.
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BuddhaGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:01 PM
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39. great info on seaweed and how protective it is
thanks for posting! :thumbsup:
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