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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 05:24 PM
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I hope it's okay to post here. This debate has really awakened me, and made me ashamed.
Edited on Sat Nov-08-08 05:46 PM by Mike 03
This post is half cross-posted, and much of it is new. This seems to be the smart place to post these sentiments.

All of these discussions have reminded me of something I had forgotten, or pushed out of my memory.

It was a selfless transgender male who took care of my grandmother after she suffered a severe stroke. I've never in my life met anyone who was more giving, dependable or devoted to such an unpleasant task. I'm referring to her as she, because that is what she wanted, but I remember that we flew to another country to attend a family reunion, and how bravely she coped with all the trials and tribulations of trying to render care in a fairly conservative area. To the credit of my relatives, nobody said anything bad to her, but had I been her, I would have been really frightened of what could have been the response.

She was later murdered. So, she's gone. But I think about her and the enjoyable times we spent together with my sisters during the reunion, when I really got to know her. We drank beer together and smoked cigarettes (which I almost never do).

Gay and Lesbian people are all around us. They care for our parents, our grandparents, our children. My two most influential teachers were gay. One of them was a writing teacher who died of AIDS. The other lived a long, healthy life. They were amazing people and I think about them often. They changed my life.

I want to tell you something about my writing teacher who (unbeknownst to us) had and died from AIDS. Even though he knew he was dying, he read our screenplays closely, he offered comments, he once called me at ten at night to give me a screenplay critique. Here a man is dying and he is struggling to be a good teacher.

So, two Gay teachers in my life helped me choose my path. They essentially told me what I was good at, and thankfully they were right. And I loved them for that. Although I mourn for the one who died, because we students were not permitted to know, so we could never say "goodbye." That hurts to this day.

We need to pay back what we have received. It's only right. And that payback includes observing the Constitution of the United States in which everyone, regardless of race, sexual orientation, or anything, is treated equally.

The point of this post is that even though I'm a proud Liberal Democrat, I have not been as sensitive to Gay/Lesbian issues as I should have been, and I'm ashamed of that fact.

But I promise you two things, and I mean this from the very gut of my being:

1. I will never ever take gay/lesbian issues lightly again.
2. I'm joining the fight. This whole thing of trying to barter and negotiate who deserves equal rights and who doesn't is nonsense of the first order. I will never, ever remain silent when this issue comes up. Because, this process of looking back has really enlightened me about how important people with different sexual orientations have been in my life. I would be the most pathetic, hypocritical person in the world not to take a stand on this.


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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 05:27 PM
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1. you're a good man
welcome aboard!
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 05:28 PM
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2. You have made me cry, something that I don't do a lot of.
Welcome!
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volstork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 05:29 PM
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3. Excellent post.
People need to open their eyes (and hearts) more.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 05:42 PM
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6. Yes, they most certainly do.
It's such an easy process, too: "What if it were me that was GLBTI and I was having my rights as a citizen trampled by religious bigots and the aggressively ignorant and being relegated to the back of the societal bus?"

There are gay men and women in my life whom I love, greatly. They enrich me with their gracious friendship. I can no longer abide this bigotry against them and all my GLBTI brothers and sisters. Hence, I shall not, ever again.
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 05:40 PM
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4. Thank you for that, Mike 03.
If you have any insight on how to create dialog (not the slugfest here at DU) with others, I'd love to hear it.

Peace and prosperity to you! :hi:
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dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 05:41 PM
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5. Thank you
This is what I hope will be the silver lining to the Prop 8 debacle - waking up the progressive community, and finally making them realize that gay rights = human rights.
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ValueALLfamilies Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 05:56 PM
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7. www.valueallfamilies.com thanks you
Thank you.
We are all angry at the anti-gay forces out there. In reality, we can crush them with the support of our straight fair-minded brothers and sisters. No matter how right gay people are, there is not enough of us. We can't do it without you. Thank-you. I leave you with words from Martin Luther King:

"In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends." Martin Luther King Jr.

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." Martin Luther King Jr.

"All that is required for evil to succeed is for good people to do nothing." Martin Luther King Jr.

It is one thing to attack the evil ones. I think we need to invest just as much energy into unsilencing our friends. I came out at work because of this. Now there are 30 more Californians with a close association to a gay person. If every gay person could recruit 30 people that amendment would not pass. The number one reason someone voted for it? They don't have a gay friend. The number one reason the voted against it? They were or knew someone gay. People can sleep at night when they are voting to "save marriage". They can not when they know they are voting against John, Paul, Mary and Cindy.

I have an entire website devoted to how the religious have attacked the gays and how Bush's administration encouraged it. check it out

www.valueallfamilies.com

Lets end the politics of division. United we stand, Divided we fall

denise

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RetiredTrotskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 05:56 PM
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8. Lovely Post, Mike03....
and so far as I am concerned you have every right to post here. :pals:
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Lancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 05:57 PM
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9. K&R. Wonderful post.
Every time I hear of discrimination any place, any time, I always think of that Dave Chappelle sketch where the blind black man joins the Klan.
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 06:10 PM
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10. In another response to another post, someone asked, "When is the day they will get it?"
This is the day.

We get it.

I get it.

This is an issue that goes directly to who we are and what we represent as a people.

That day is here.

I get it.

We all need to get it.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 06:15 PM
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11. Thanks Mike, you are welcome here any time!
Now I'm a little verklempt.
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 06:39 PM
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12. Wow. Great post! And you are welcome here.
:yourock:
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 06:43 PM
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13. Thank you for saying I am welcome here
Lately, I feel I have more in common with the people here than with some of the posts in the more popular forums.

I just don't get it. This is so obvious.

Sorry, I'm tired...
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jvaljean Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 06:44 PM
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14. I am new here, but...
...joined just because of this issue. I really appreciated reading your post and am astounded that people would vote to take away any law abiding citizens rights.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 06:55 PM
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15. jvaljean-- Welcome!
Hope you stay and make the GLBT forum a vibrant place.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 08:27 PM
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16. thank you for sharing your story!
:hi:

jonny
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 09:27 PM
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17. Thanks for your post. As a gay member here, a person with AIDS
and a volunteer moderator, I really appreciate you sharing this story.

:thumbsup:
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 09:56 PM
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18. Thank you! Your post means alot to many of us here.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:05 PM
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19. Thanks mike
a true ally
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 11:02 PM
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20.  Thank You, from all of us "others"
NT
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 11:39 PM
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21. Really beautiful post, Mike.
Welcome to the community. It's LGBTQIA: the A is for allies.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 11:41 PM
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22. Great sentiments! Well said!
Thanks.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 11:47 PM
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23. Thank you Mike. Sincerely. NT
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:03 AM
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24. Thanks Mike.
K/R
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