For those asking for another example of the Xtians oragnizing against Adam Lambert

[saracat]

This is from Newsday today link below and there are lots of similar statements everywhere.This might not matter to some but Adam is not only awesomely talented but he is making a breakthrough for the LBGTL Community.The Evangelicals have been organizing against him and showing they have the chops to pull him down. As the most watched show in America, they are "using" Idol to make their point.As many papers have stated, "it is time for Idol to "open the closet Door" and it seems they are ready to but the Xtians want it shut.
The Miss California Contestant is also going everywhere with her homophobic statements and being labaled "courageous'She now says on national TV that she didn't win "because God wants her "to carry this homophobic message to America !



"My church is all voting for Danny Gokey. He's a great singer plus he's a much better role model than the Adam guy with painted nails and stuff. You can't expect kids to think they can grow up and act like Adam do you? Just look at him, his funny hair and acting like a girl. This is America and we need to take back our culture from homosexuals who are trying to force their lifestyle down our throats.

It's about time a christian musician wins American Idol.

I'm praying for it as well as voting!

Hope ya'll do the same and God Bless!

My church is all voting for Danny Gokey. He's a great singer plus he's a much better role model than the Adam guy with painted nails and stuff. You can't expect kids to think they can grow up and act like Adam do you? Just look at him, his funny hair and acting like a girl. This is America and we need to take back our culture from homosexuals who are trying to force their lifestyle down our throats.

It's about time a christian musician wins American Idol.

I'm praying for it as well as voting!

Hope ya'll do the same and God Bless!

http://weblogs.newsday.com/entertainment/music/idol/blog/2009/04/matt_giraud_or_adam_lambert_is.html

Also see
Idol Contestants in God's Hands"
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/03/17/entertainment/main4872498.shtml

Also see "Gokey Hooks up with OC Ministry"

http://strangeoc.freedomblogging.com/2009/03/02/american-idols-danny-gokey-hooks-up-with-oc-ministry/7461/

[xchrom]

1. recommend - against hateful studpidity. nt

[saracat]

2. Which is why I am asking folks to vote for Adam on Tuesdays.

[murielm99]

3. I stopped watching after that Jordan girl won.

Her father is a retired pro football player. He could have bought her her own recording studio. And if she was that great, she could have used his celebrity connections to get a recording contract.

Also, does anyone remember the pictures of her and her little brother with Randy, a whole year before the competition? How's that for coincidence?

The girl was a virulent anti-choice protester. When she started to look like an Idol winner, her anti-choice spew miraculously disappeared from her facebook page. Imagine that.

If this kid is as talented as I hear, he will make it, with or without this Idol crap. In fact, he might be better off without it. He won't be tied to a contractual agreement with Simon and Idol. He can make his own decisions, with some good legal advice, I hope.

[SacredCow]

4. I'm SO not into Idol....

but if the Khrist-Krispies are organizing against one contestant because they are against his (percieved) sexuality... It's enough reason for me to vote for him- whether or not I watch the show.

[saracat]

9. This is exactly why I am posting this. Please vote.They are making a stement and so are we.

[qb]

5. I wonder if this has implications for game show fairness...

like the rigged game show scandals of the 1950s. I know Idol isn't exactly a game show, but the influence of organized religion makes it look like they're stuffing the ballot box.

[nichomachus]

7. All these shows are about is stuffing the ballot box

kind of like the All-Star voting in baseball. You get fans of one stripe or another voting hundreds, if not thousands, of times.

It's all pretty stupid.

[qb]

8. Ah yes... I forgot that media standards tanked under Ronald Reagan

and only went down from there.

:hi:

[nichomachus]

11. When you let people vote by computer thousands of times

you kind of open the way for ballot stuffing.

We chuckle when Colbert does this to get his followers to get a bridge named after him -- or a wing of the space station -- or a portrait in the national gallery.

Uncontrolled Internet voting has about as much credibility as online polls -- maybe less.

[nichomachus]

6. American what????

Obsessing over who wins a "reality show" is like worrying about who wins "Miss All-Around Cheese Curd" at the Wisconsin State Fair.

[saracat]

10. Nevertheless, it has a huge viewership and bigotry ought not to be its message.

American Idol is the most popular show in America and a win for a GBTL contestant would be huge.

[chaplainM]

13. Don't stir that pot again

Kitty Ann Muenster got robbed!

[Inspired]

12. I wish everyone understood your point, Saracat. *sigh*

I adore Adam Lambert. He is remarkably talented. But many might be ignoring this because they hate American Idol. OK. Fine.

This is more about the Christian Right staging an effort to take away any chance of Adam Lambert winning simply because he is gay. Not because he isn't more talented....because he is gay.

We can't have this! We can't. We need to fight for Adam Lambert! By doing so we are fighting against hate.

This isn't just about American Idol. Adam Lambert won't need an American Idol win to be a star. He's already on that path. This is about something bigger.

Thanks for your efforts, Saracat.

[saracat]

16. Thanks Inspired. A vote for Adam is truly a vote against hate. We should all

be speed dialing as many votes as possible for him.

[paulsby]

18. i vote for both

i think adam lambert is wild talented.

i also think gokey is talented.

up to this point i've voted for both.

if it comes down to them as the final 2, i will vote for lambert and not gokey.

i think lambert is better

but gokey has done nothing wrong, and i'm not going to punish him cause some fundies have issues.

[saracat]

19. Like the political "one shot" voting, every vote for Gokey is a vote against Adam

and Gokey isn't blameless in the Fundie game.

[paulsby]

23. so what?

i like gokey. and it's not a vote AGAINST adam. do you understand how idol works.

whomever gets the LOWEST # of votes loses.

so, if i vote for adam and gokey, it is a net neutral in regards to either losing. i add one vote to each's tally

[saracat]

26. Well, anyone who is only voting once, in the case of Idol, isn't doing much of anything at all

because of all the power voters voting hundreds and thousands of times. I just want the playing field to be leveled for Adam who doesn't have entire congragations power voting for him.

[paulsby]

27. fwiw he has various interest groups voting FOR him

this is true of nearly every candiate. gokey gets various interest groups voting for him.

so does lambert. any # of gay bloggers etc. have pointed his performances out, so of course he is going to get votes from the gay community, just like scott would get votes out of the sympathy for his blindness, or some guys and gals get votes cause they are super hawt looking.

people vote for people for all sorts of reasons in addition to singing talent (and imo lambert is the most talented).

i think a smart tactic would be to get people to vote for lambert. but like i said, i always vote for lambert, but i vote for gokey ALSO and that doesn't hurt lambert.

[saracat]

28. Sorry but the GBTL Groups are not ALL supporting lambert. most aren't

interested and some despise idol. They aren't locksteppers. Adam needs all the support he can get and it is really hard to compete with those churchs and yes voting for others does hurt. it is exactly the same when voters refuse to vote just for the democrat and vote for another candidate because they have two seats to fill and there isn't another Dem running. That is what is known as single shotting because your single vote counts twice but voting for two counts as against the Dem or the candidate of your choice.
In American Idol parlance , it is what happened to Daughtry, that is why it is now known on Idol as being "Daughtryied". You single shot your favorute so they aren't eliminated. Whatever.

[paulsby]

29. nice strawman

i didn't say that the GBTL groups are ALL supporting lambert.

nor did i, fwiw, say that christian groups are ALL supporting gokey.

so, nice try.

i said some bloggers, etc. are.

for example - michael buck (one of my favorite bloggers) at buckhollywood.com and his youtube account has .

nobody claimed the gay community/bloggers etc. act in lockstep any more than christians or anybody else does.

[Inspired]

21. Oh, I agree.

Danny Gokey might be as appalled by this as we are. He's done nothing wrong and there is nothing wrong with being a Christian!

There is also nothing wrong with voting for someone you like.

The problem is the organized effort to NOT recognize Adam Lambert's talent because of something that has nothing to do with that talent.

The OP just wants everyone to consider casting a vote Adam's way to counteract this effort.

[paulsby]

24. i'll continue

to vote for both gokey and adam. i've thrown several other votes people's way as well (chris, etc.)

i'm just glad scott and lil were gone.

i think they both SUCKED. frankly, i think scott got as far as he did largely because of "blind" cred. simply put, he was nowhere near the level of the others.

i was pissed that megan got canned so early, but her attitude did not exactly endear her to many fans.

my dream scenario is that gokey and adam are the last two. in that case, i would of course vote for adam.

[lifesbeautifulmagic]

14. Thank you for posting this, I enjoy American Idol

and am now in the "If not Adam, anybody but Danny" camp.

[saracat]

15. Thank you and vote please , as many times as you can. Remember the fundies are!

[tblue37]

17. The right wing country music fans did the same thing for Sarah Evans, she of the two left feet,

when she was on Dancing with the Starts. Girl had no rhytm at all,--was a real clunker--but the Christians and country music fans kept her on, specifically because the they were encouraged to vote for her, by their pastors and other right wingers, as a good Christian woman who shared their values. Of corurse, she ended up getting divorced partway through the season she was on (and dropping out because of the divorce proceedings). Her husband said she was having an affair with her professional dance partner from the show.

But every week, despite her pathetic clunkiness and low scores from the judges, she was saved from elimination by her RW fans.

[Pacifist Patriot]

20. I don't watch the show (don't watch anything but LOST actually), but...

if someone will educate me about when it's on and how to vote, I'll gladly participate.

[Hugabear]

22. Stupid fundies. They'd actually be doing him a huge favor if he didn't win.

If he wins, his first AI produced album is going to suck. The producers won't let him do what he does best, he'll have to sing what they want him to, and will be geared towards the widest audience possible. By not finishing in the top two, he'd have much more freedom to record the album he wants to, and I guarantee that his album would sell far more than whoever else were to win.

This kid has a bright future. The judges have said repeatedly that he doesn't need American Idol, he's the real deal.

[saracat]

25. Actually, all the top 10 are now "owned' by AI divisions, so he might as well WIN

and his winning would make a point and take a stand against hate and bigotry.