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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 07:57 PM
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A "WTH?" article for the day - "Girl sues school over prom tux denial"
Girl sues school over prom tux denial

By Andy Gammill
Posted: March 11, 2009

A 17-year-old Boone County girl has sued Lebanon Schools after her high school principal told her she could not wear a tuxedo to the school's April 25 prom but would have to wear a dress.

The Lebanon High School senior, whose name is not revealed in the lawsuit, is a lesbian and does not wear dresses because she sees them as expressing a sexual identity that she does not embrace, court filings said.

Her attorney at the American Civil Liberties Union of Indiana has asked a federal court to issue an injunction that would require the school to let her wear the same formal attire to the prom as male students at the school.

In the filing, ACLU of Indiana legal director Ken Falk argued that the district's policy violates the stipulations in the U.S. Constitution that the government treat a female student the same as male students and not limit students' freedom to express beliefs.

http://www.indystar.com/article/20090311/NEWS04/903110415

I want to shake the principal and yell, "WTH!"
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 07:58 PM
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1. Crazy. At least in a tuxedo you don't have to wear push-up accessories and a really weird bra. nt
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 08:02 PM
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6. And you don't have to worry about things, um, popping out
:D
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 08:03 PM
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7. Yeah, and your girl parts can breathe in a tux. No two-sided tape!!
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 08:22 PM
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12. A Tux is probably cheaper than all the crap you have to buy
Edited on Wed Mar-11-09 08:34 PM by MadMaddie
along with the dress.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 08:23 PM
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13. Ain't that the truth. nt
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 07:58 PM
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2. I wore a tux to my senior prom
They principal flipped, but didn't dare say anything. No one else cared.
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 08:01 PM
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5. Indiana may have gone blue, but there's still a lot of red left.
I think a tux is an elegant choice.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 08:28 PM
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15. I'm in NJ
In the weird part that's Republican, but mostly socially liberal.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 07:59 PM
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3. I guess the principal has a lot of time on his/her hands
apparently a student choosing to not wear a dress makes it to the top of their priorities
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 08:01 PM
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4. We had women at my Presbyterian private school's prom that wore tuxedos...
Edited on Wed Mar-11-09 08:02 PM by Ian David
... they weren't "openly lesbian" but said they were doing it to make a statement of some sort and had other women as their dates.

But come on, we all kinda knew why they were REALLY doing it, and nobody seemed to make a big deal or hassle them about it.


Also, once a year, senior boys would wear skirts to class and/or dinner to protest the fact that girls could wear skirts to class, but boys couldn't wear shorts.

And again, nobody made a major fuss about it.


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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 08:04 PM
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8. EVERYBODY looks good in a black tux. MOST people look AWFUL in a shrinkwrap dress. nt
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 08:09 PM
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9. TEN YEARS AGO NOW......one of my child's friends/classmates
wore a white pantsuit/tux kinda thing to her Catholic "First Communion". There was 'no comment' by anyone about it. That's who/what she was-is/what she was comfortable in.

People respect 'truth' ~ and the courage it takes to be truthful about oneself - FAR GREATER than simply conforming to 'social convention.
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 08:11 PM
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11. Actresses also wear tuxes on the red carpet
The principal's protest baffles me. :shrug:
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 08:32 PM
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16. I agree. See my post above eom
Edited on Wed Mar-11-09 09:12 PM by Mind_your_head
edit: "above" ~ post #9
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Eryemil Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 09:19 PM
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17. Your example would actually mean something if it were a male in female attire
It is more much acceptable for females to adopt male standards than the other way around.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 01:45 AM
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19. Not that much more.
Only when "madonna and brittney" do it is it acceptable because it's play. When an actual transgendered butch or FTM does it, it's not so pretty. I've known some people who've been brutally attacked. I know some people who haven't. I also know some transwomen queens who have and haven't.
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Eryemil Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 02:58 AM
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20. Specifically in the context the poster above mentioned?
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 08:11 PM
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10. Maybe she wanted to look like Marlene Dietrich.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 08:26 PM
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14. Maybe.....Marlene looks pretty 'cool' to me.....just not 'traditional'
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 09:49 PM
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18. Dang let her wear the tux, they're awesome.
Everyone looks good in a tux, even penguins.
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 07:25 AM
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21. The more things change, the more they stay the same
www.advocate.com/news_detail.asp?id=31327


In 1999, Falk helped an Indianapolis male teen win a court battle to wear a dress to prom. “All students have First Amendment rights of freedom of expression. Those rights can be overcome for the legitimate needs of the school. “But the court found at a prom, those risks are lessened. It’s not a scholastic activity.”


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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 05:40 PM
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24. I didn't know there was a legal precedence
and I'm sure the principal didn't either, which makes him doubly stupid!
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RetiredTrotskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 11:27 AM
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22. Yep, Sounds About Right For Indiana
I am SO glad to be out of there that it's not funny! Damn! Let her wear the tux!
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 03:29 PM
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23. This is so 1990
It was right around then that two girls at a high school in my home town wanted to go to their prom as a couple, one in a tux and one in a formal. They weren't lesbian, they said, but BFsF. The principal said no, and a big stink ensued. I don't recall the details, but they were allowed to go as they wanted.

About 10 years later, at the same school, the principal (I don't remember if it was the same one) tried to enact a rule against girls wearing thongs because they created a "distraction." Wonderfully, many female students protested under the banner, "Stop looking at our underwear."

:headbang:



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