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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 07:21 PM
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What is it about the Chargers, inspiring teams to go for 2 instead of a tie and overtime?
Kansas City just failed, after Denver succeeded in week two.

You almost never see that, let alone twice to one team in two months.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 07:22 PM
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1. stupid fucking herm edwards
had they kicked the extra point both times we would have won


the decisions herm makes are just plain stupid
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 07:47 PM
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2. I thought it was a dumb move by Edwards
San Diego is shell shocked this season, finding ways to lose. They hardly would have been a confident cinch in overtime.

Plus, those roll right plays on 2 point conversions have been snuffed out routinely in recent years. If you're going to gamble with a limited offense, at least make it something besides the most predictable play imaginable. The outside linebacker penetrated and disrupted the design of the play immediately.

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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 07:57 PM
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3. The first one was a botched hold.
Can't fault him for the one at the end, either. What does the team have to lose? They're not going to the playoffs. Play for the win, give your team a chance to win the game outright.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:14 PM
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4. Indeed. Last week it went into OT and they didn't even see the ball.
In the last few years teams are successful with 2-point conversions a little over 50% of the time.

KC likely had a better probability of winning by putting all their chips in the pot in this one play versus trying to maintain a sustained drive to score. Yeah, they may have ended the game with a sustained drive, but that was preceded by 5 drives which resulted in punts (and 3 of these were 3 and outs).
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 02:56 AM
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5. Since they're not going to make the playoffs...
If you get the win, great, if not, you help your draft position, which KC very much needs.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:44 PM
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6. Didn't think of that - kind of a win-win that way.
You make the 2, you energize and inspire your team. You don't, and it's a better draft pick.

Maybe Herm isn't so dumb after all!
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 01:00 PM
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8. And unlike when Houston's kicker shanked a gimme
(badly) a few years back and ended up with the top pick, you don't look like you're trying to throw a game. You look like you're trying to win.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:49 PM
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7. Fuck it. What did they have to lose at this point?
It's hit or miss that a team will even get the ball in overtime. They aren't in any race, so one more loss won't hurt them. If it works the team gets a big lift and feels good for a week.

I liked it.
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 02:18 AM
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9. It's more or less a break-even decision anyway, isn't it?
What's the conversion rate for 2-pointers?
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 09:43 AM
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10. There were three possibilities for a Chiefs win
1. Make the 2-point conversion
2. A long scoring drive in OT
3. A Chargers turnover in OT allowing a short Chiefs scoring drive


For a good team, 2 and 3 may be more likely. For the current Chiefs, No. 1 was the most likely to win.
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