Why in the hell didn't Arkansas run that blocked punt in for a TD?

[Upton]

They just replayed it, would have been easy. Man, that and all the drops by the receivers..OSU sure got a lot of help..

[Condem]

1. Throwing out congrats like man-hole covers again, Upton.

Man. The fucking SEC West is vastly overrated.

[MadBadger]

2. Sounds like both of you are BSing

Intentionally or unintentionally

[Upton]

3. If I'm not mistaken

that "overrated" SEC West outscored two teams from the Big Ten, one the Big Ten co-champ, on New Year's Day by 101-21.

Sure, the Buckeyes played tough defense when they had to, but they got a lot of help from the Arkansas receivers. And still OSU was barely hanging on. Why though didn't Arkansas run the blocked punt in?

[Condem]

4. Big Ten co-champ in name only, Upton.

Hell. We beat 'em as bad as Bama did. And Michigan. C'mon. They didn't deserve a bowl. Go get GaYellow and try again.

[hughee99]

7. Eh, nevermind.

Congrats on the win.

[GaYellowDawg]

18. Actually, you didn't.

Iowa beat MSU 37-6.
Alabama beat MSU 49-7.

31≠42. That's a two score difference.

If Michigan didn't deserve a bowl, why didn't Iowa beat them by Mississippi State's 38 points instead of just 10?

The SEC West went 2-1 against the Big 1?. Outscored them in those three games by 127-52. Honestly, you should just STFU and sit down.

[Condem]

20. Hey, Ga.

I'd have to say you're a worse sport than Upton, if that's possible. Ohio State won. But with you everything comes with a excuse. You're a downer.

[GaYellowDawg]

22. Sorry you feel that way.

Well, you're all about the Big 1? and trashing the SEC - so naturally, you're going to get a response that you don't like when another SEC fan gets on here. Look to your own attitude. You don't see me saying anything bad about the Big 12 or the PAC-10, and that's because there isn't anyone on here waving their banner and constantly belittling the SEC.

I'd be down, too, if the SEC went 1-3 against the Big 1? and the only team that won did it by putting players on the field that flat-out should not have been there. And along those lines, I'm hoping that Oregon kills Auburn, so that they don't get to celebrate.

[Condem]

24. The SEC is king, Ga.

Hard for me to accept that fact. Peace.

[GaYellowDawg]

25. It sure won't be that way forever.

College football has always been cyclical. The king always, always loses his throne. It's inevitable.

Since you're being nice, let me see if I can reciprocate.

I think adding Nebraska and going to divisional play is going to be really good for the Big Ten. I don't care much for seeing Minnesota play Northwestern, but I sure would tune in to watch Iowa and Nebraska. The Big Ten's divisions were well-done. You've got Penn State, Ohio State, and Wisconsin in one division, and Iowa, Nebraska, and Michigan in another. One thing that I always felt hurt the Big Ten was that in some years, the two best teams didn't play. Now, they will. There's going to be excitement generated for the division championships, and only one team will get to claim the crown; there won't be any more "technical" co-champions. That was really good for the SEC. There's going to be some give and take with rivalries, but it will be of benefit overall. I foresee Penn State-Ohio State really becoming a bigger rivalry, and Iowa-Nebraska, as well. When you're fighting for a spot in a championship game, everything becomes more intense. It'll be good for your games, it'll be good for your fans, and it will really amp up national recruiting for your teams. And as a side benefit - when this really gets big, no one will regret it more than Notre Dame. They'll be the Georgia Tech of the Midwest; filled with regret over what could have been. Finally, just playing the game will make your champs a lot tougher. I honestly think you're about to see a real uptick in the Big Ten's fortunes.

Speaking of divisions, I always thought that Midwestern and Heartland would make good names for the divisions. They're positive terms that are immediately identifiable with the Big Ten's geographic area.

The SEC really lucked out with the championship game. We premiered the idea, and at the time of its inception, it was the only game that would be allowed to go to overtime. Moving it to a venue like the Georgia Dome was a great idea as well; the lack of a great venue plus the fact that many ACC teams don't travel well has made their conference championship game a bit of a disaster. I think the Big Ten should try to use Lucas Oil Stadium for their championship game. It's centrally located, it's a superb facility, and playing in an NFL stadium is, frankly, just flat out exciting.

[Condem]

26. When all this expansion talk was at it's zenith....

...the best interview I read on the subject was by former SEC head Wayne Kramer. The guy just came across as a gentlman who had his shit in a pile. Mike Slive can thank Mr. Kramer for getting the SEC where it is today. And his ideas were the blueprint for Big ten expansion. The funny thing is if Bill Callahan was still coach of Big Red they wouldn't of been part of the equation. I'll be in Lincoln the Saturday after Thanksgiving. Of this, I am sure. It will be interesting to see what happens at michigan. I believe the Big Ten needs a strong Michigan. I wonder if Miles will be approached. I disagree wholeheartedly with the folks who think he would be a bad fit at UM. I think he'd be perfect. The consumate gambler in a conference filled with the conservative. I'd look forward to playing him.

[madinmaryland]

5. His Knee was down, douche. BTW, OSU got no help from the refs.

[Upton]

6. He could have scooped the ball up

there was nobody around but Arkansas players. Bad play, mental mistake. Your Bucks got a break, just as they did with the receivers having the dropsies. I never said anything about the refs.

[Condem]

8. What's the big, bad-ass SEC's bowl record??

3 and 4? Hmmmmmmmmm....

[Upton]

9. I don't know..

but there's not much question they're the top conference top to bottom in the country. As for bowls record I do know about:

Big Ten..3-5 .400

Pac-10..2-1 .667

[Condem]

10. 2 and 1?!

I think the Big East has had more bowl games.

[Upton]

11. I explained that situation..

maybe if the NCAA wasn't giving Tressel, the Buckeyes and their 5 players a break (talk about favoritism) that record would no doubt be 2-6.

[Condem]

12. We'll see how that plays out.

Probably haven't heard the last of that. Pales to what the SEC get's away with. It's always been about the $$$$.

[Upton]

15. It always about the money isn't it Condem?

I just wish they'd realize a well thought out, well run playoff system would be a big time money maker for everybody..and some great enjoyment for us fans.

[GaYellowDawg]

19. Really? How does it pale?

Georgia's AJ Green got suspended, immediately, for four games, for selling a jersey. Ohio State's players should have been suspended immediately, as well. Nice to see you playing the old Republican "they do it, too" game to try to justify the Big 1?'s scandal. I suppose you did the same thing when Michigan got busted.

And, for the record, I have been pulling against Auburn ever since the Cam Newton stuff came out. In fact, I hope Oregon beats the shit out of them. I wrote the following email to Mike Slive, the SEC commissioner:

Dear Mr. Slive,

You are a gutless bureaucrat who is just as guilty as Cecil Newton for pimping out Cam. It's too bad you didn't have the backbone to enforce the rules since it will cost the conference so much money (and maybe affect your bonus this year if AU doesn't win the BCS championship). Not only do you lack ethics, character, and courage, but your double standards with respect to rules enforcement demonstrate to the entire nation that you are a hypocrite as well. It's a shame that we have a commissioner whose ego is inversely proportional to his character - and not in the complimentary sense. You are a disgrace to the SEC and to college athletics.

Speaking of hypocrites, did you send an email to the Big 1? commissioner, or did you just hope that the players in question would have a great game against Arkansas so that the Big 1? could finally eke out a win against an SEC team? Sitting around bragging on Ohio State's win means no more talk about ethics or cheating from you - expediency is your number one concern.

One last thing: when the FBI is through prosecuting money laundering charges by influential Auburn alumni in Alabama and releases phone transcripts to the NCAA, the hammer will come down on Auburn and its boosters. I hope they get the death penalty. I doubt you'd ever wish something like that on a Big 1? team.

[GaYellowDawg]

17. Yep.

Too bad we can't all play Big 1? teams. Then our record would probably be 5-2 or 6-1.

[JonLP24]

13. I'm sure Ohio State made some mistakes in that game

Though I couldn't watch it because I can't afford cable due to my junk food and cigarette addiction.

[Upton]

14. Well now..

that's a real drag (pun completely intended) :rofl:

Seriously though, if you're going to put your nicotine addiction above your fondness for football, you'll just have to be content with updates..

[JonLP24]

16. I'll say

E-cig juice only costs me around $20 a month. Cable with the ESPN channels is a little over $50. I actually got modified version of cable that costs me $16 a month. It has all the regular channels-Fox, ABC, CBS, etc. C-SPAN, TBS, ION, Discovery, the bible channel, Spanish channel(which I used to watch World Cup games that were on ESPN), and TV Guide channel. Believe it or not, I watch TV Guide Channel the most because of great shows such as Curb Your Enthusiasm, Ugly Betty, and Weeds.

So it isn't either or. Even if I completely stopped with e-juice I'd still be short on the amount the cable company is asking.

[Capt. America]

21. Arkansas got a lot of help from our F-ups too. I also notices that the refs werent really calling

holding, pass interference or unsportsmanlike on either team. As Mr. Spock would say, "sauce for the goose".

[GaYellowDawg]

23. I'd say both teams made enough mistakes to balance out.

All that Arkansas had to do to win was to pick a blocked punt up that landed right in their hands, and they didn't. Plus, I'll admit it, I thought the safety was a very poor call. I've never seen a runner not get a whistle and the forward progress on that before.

[JonLP24]

27. He broke the tackle

At first I thought just like you but when a runner breaks a tackle forward progress starts over when he gets hit again. I see this all the time when a receiver could just fall down and he'd get a first down, but kept pushing, broke the tackle and someone else tackled him short of yard marker.