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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 11:06 AM
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NFL Draft Day Chat
I don't know if anyone is around but I thought I'd start a thread for Draft chatter. Feel free to praise or lament your team's picks and offer other impressions.

I kinda feel like the Niners do NOT want to take Smith if they can't trade the pick.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 11:43 AM
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1. I think the Dolphins screwed the pooch
with Brown. He's too small to be durable in the NFL.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 11:48 AM
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2. He wouldn't have been my first choice
Edited on Sat Apr-23-05 11:49 AM by Mojambo
But Saban got a pretty good look at him at LSU and he is like 6 ft 225 pounds. That's not terribly small.

The Browns aren't going to trade away this pick are they? They have to take Edwards here.

This is too high to take Rodgers.
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 11:53 AM
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3. Just give him a year
He is small but he is a playmaker. He was by far my favorite Auburn player to watch this year (my hometown team!).

:)
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:22 PM
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44. Who did San Fran take?
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:37 PM
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50. Alex Smith - QB Utah.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 02:05 AM
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86. Relax...
...6'1" & 230+ is plenty big to tote the rock in the NFL. Especially if you have this guy's skills.

There's a huge contingent of Auburn fans out there who felt Ronnie got the short shrift over the last few years. I've heard it said his greater involvement in the offense was the catalyst that took pressure off Campbell and lifted the Tigers to an undefeated season.

He very well might be the best athlete to play running back at Auburn since Bo. The guy's got it all.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 11:55 AM
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4. Giants don't have a 1st rounder - went to SD for Eli
but the Giants did pretty well in the free agent market with WR Plaxico Burress, T Kareem McKenzie & LB Antonio Pierce.

They don't get a pick until #11 of the 2nd round, #43 overall.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 11:58 AM
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5. Browns can't find a taker for #3
Draft best available player, WR Braylon Edwards. The teams who needed a receiver obviously think they can wait for Mike Williams or Mark Clayton.

I really thought Minnesota was going to move up to #3
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:04 PM
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6. There was all this talk about Wsh trading up
glad they didn't
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:05 PM
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7. What is Washington looking for at #9?
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:09 PM
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9. most likely a corner
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:15 PM
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11. Benson goes to the Bears at #4
Two of the big 3 running backs are gone. When Carnell Williams drops we might finally see some trade activity on Shawn Alexander or Edgerrin James.

4 picks and no defensive players selected. I doubt Tampa Bay is going that way either. LB Derrick Johnson should be the first defensive guy picked. He's dynamite.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:18 PM
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13. I think if Mike Williams is still there they will take him
They need to stay put at nine and keep their picks. Damned Snyder gets too hyper.

At 9, there should still be either Mike Williams, Pac Man Jones, or Rolle left. Any one will do well.

No reason to trade up now.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:21 PM
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14. Williams won't make it past Minnesota at #7
I think Rolle will be the guy.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:26 PM
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18. So far, this has been right.
Edited on Sat Apr-23-05 12:26 PM by nytemare
http://www.nfl.com/partners/aol?http://www.nfl.com/

Last year was all crazy.

I would rather see Pac Man Jones, but Rolle will be a good d back as well.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:54 PM
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25. M Williams and A Rodgers are still around
Dayum. Surely AZ won't pass on either...
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:59 PM
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29. I'm shocked that Mike Williams made it to Washington.
They have to take him at #9. The value is just too high.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:02 PM
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31. Yeah, they could use a center more, but they need a big
receiver too.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:06 PM
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8. It wouldn't surprise me if they trade for him now
That's the guy they wanted, allegedly, all along.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:10 PM
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10. CED!
Bears made a great choice.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:16 PM
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12. He was crying!
Awwwwwwww! He wasn't a cocky jerk, so I might have to see how this guy does!
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:22 PM
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15. I agree. Best running back in the draft.
He was worked hard in college, but showed no signs of breaking down.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:26 PM
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17. Exactly.
Even though he's actually smaller than Brown (height-wise, they're about the same weight) I think he'll hold up better.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:24 PM
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16. Cadillac goes to the Bucs
Those Auburn backs were coveted. Three of top five are RBs.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:29 PM
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19. He's good but
This feels like a reach to fill a need. Williams was definitely a top 15 running back but I don't like him as much at #5.

The Bucs had just as big a need at WR and Mike Williams would have been better value, IMO.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 02:07 AM
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87. This one, not Brown...
...is the one I think is more likely to get injured.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:37 PM
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20. Adam Jones to Tennesee at #6
Very interesting that they passed on Antrel Rolle who seemed to be higher on most boards.

Minnesota now with a no brainer pick. Lets see if they can get the card turned in on time.
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:49 PM
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21. I think Minny made a bad pick
If they were not going to pick MW, they should have traded down.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:53 PM
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23. With the depth at WR in this draft
I don't think there would have been as much action to get to that pick. They might have been able to get a deal with a team looking to move up for Aaron Rodgers though.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:50 PM
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22. Troy Williamson to Vikings at #7
He's insanely fast, but they might regret passing on Mike Williams here.

Arizona is taking Rolle. No question about it.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:54 PM
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24. So, will Arizona pick up Rolle, and if they do, will the Skins get
Williams??
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:57 PM
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26. hope so
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:58 PM
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27. I hope Washington trades down or picks up Merriman
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:01 PM
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30. They could use a rushing end, but I think the Boys are looking for
one too. An OLB or DE. I somehow doubt the Redskins will pass on Williams, though. I am suprised they didn't give up every single pick for the first one, the way Snyder has done that in the past..lol.
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:02 PM
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32. I'm an SC fan and want Mike Williams with the Boys
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:06 PM
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33. As far as needs go, the 'Skins could have used
Pac Man Jones or Rolle the most, Rogers is still up there, but I don't think they will pass up Williams for him.

I think Merriman will be nasty good, though, wherever he goes. There is also another de/olb on the board that might go early.
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:09 PM
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34. Ware?
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:16 PM
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39. Yes, Ware!
Thanks. I wonder if Detroit will pass on Williams. How are the cowboys at WR?
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:10 PM
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35. Merriman to the Texans
(keeping fingers crossed)
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:24 PM
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45. Joe Gibbs!
I will be interested to see how he adapts a year after taking over for Fun n Gun. Should be fun to see!
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:25 PM
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46. I meant to send that to the OP.......OOPS!
Merriman will be a good pick.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:58 PM
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28. Those should be the next two guys picked
Edited on Sat Apr-23-05 01:00 PM by Mojambo
Only the order is in question.

What a skills draft so far, not a single lineman has been taken (offense or defense)
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:13 PM
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36. Holy shit, they passed on Williams!
Needed a cornerback. Maybe they are wising up.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:13 PM
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37. Skins pass on Williams too, take CB Carlos Rogers
Somebody is going to get an absolute steal.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:15 PM
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38. wanted Williams
Edited on Sat Apr-23-05 01:15 PM by Cush
Washington had the 30th ranked offense last year. Hopefully they'll go WR at 25
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:17 PM
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40. There will be near first round talent at WR at #25
Not so for cornerback. Which is probably why they played it the way they did.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:20 PM
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43. They might end up picking another qb
The dude from Auburn, I am losing track of names. They need a big wr or a DE more than a QB.
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:18 PM
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41. Detroit gets MW
HAHA
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:19 PM
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42. Lions take Williams
They couldn't pass him up even if they didn't really have a need.

Roy Williams, Mike Williams, and Charles Rogers.

Whoa! Joey Harrington has got to be smiling ear to ear.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:27 PM
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47. I think A Rodgers is safe all the way to Carolina
at 14, because the linebackers are going next.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:30 PM
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48. For sure.
Really good value for Carolina, getting a potential franchise guy at #14.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:41 PM
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51. ESPN is speculating that Rodgers could drop to Green Bay at #24 n/t
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:31 PM
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49. Demarcus Ware to Dallas at #11
This is the part of the draft where I cry because all of the good defensive players Seattle needs will be drafted.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:44 PM
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52. DAMMIT! Missed Merriman by *that much*
Marcus Spears or David Pollack will be the Texans' pick, I'm guessing.
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:46 PM
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53. I hope that DJ falls to 20
Man, DJ is the best defensive player out there, and teams are just passing him up because he's not big enough or does not fit their system.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:52 PM
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56. I'd love to see Seattle trade up to get him n/t
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:48 PM
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54. Texans should pick a left tackle
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:51 PM
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55. I agree. This would be a good spot for Alex Barron
And they've traded down.

New Orleans on the clock.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:57 PM
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59. I'm pretty sure they'll go defense
and still take Spears or Pollack at 16. (Possibly DJ from UT, but he doesn't fit their 3-4 as well.)

Merriman would have been schhweeeet....*sigh*
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 02:06 PM
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61. Thomas Davis is a pretty solid pick
Edited on Sat Apr-23-05 02:07 PM by Mojambo
He's going to be a great coverage linebacker or run support saftey.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 02:13 PM
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63. But he doesn't fit their system
Too small for a 3-4 LB, and they are already loaded at DB (with Buchanon, Dunta Robinson, and Glenn).

He just wasn't on the Texans' radar, from what I have read.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:54 PM
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57. Jammal Brown to the Saints
He was rumored to be going to Carolina.

I wonder if the Panthers go with another tackle in Barron or Khalif Barnes or go defense?
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:54 PM
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58. Who the hell will Carolina pick, they don't really need DJ
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 02:05 PM
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60. Thomas Davis, LB Georgia
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 02:11 PM
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62. KC I think will get DJ, but I'm praying they do not
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 02:14 PM
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64. Who do you want them to take? n/t
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 02:14 PM
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65. I'm hoping they take Mark Clayton - WR
Edited on Sat Apr-23-05 02:14 PM by Mojambo
But you're right, DJ is the obvious choice for KC.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 02:21 PM
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66. There goes Derrick Johnson to Kansas City
he slipped a little, I thought he'd crack the top 10.

Very good pick. The concerns about his strength and shedding blocks are bunk, he's got "football" strength.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 02:34 PM
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67. First Defensive Tackle taken, Travis Johnson by the Texans n/t
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 02:34 PM
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68. TJ's OK
A wide body in the middle. Bumps Gary Walker (probably off the team).
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 02:36 PM
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69. Should Dallas get Aaron Rodgers?
:P
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 02:54 PM
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70. He needs too much developing
The cowboys already have a QB who fits that criteria.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 03:03 PM
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71. Rams take OT Alex Barron
Man, this draft has fallen perfectly for Dallas. They are going to get both the defensive players they wanted without having to move up.

Marcus Spears for Dallas at 20. Write it down.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 03:18 PM
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72. Matt Jones to Jacksonville at #21
Wow. That's kind of a shocker.

I thought the Jags would be taking a CB
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 03:22 PM
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73. Was hoping Washington would get Jones
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 03:48 PM
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74. Aaron Rodgers goes to Green Bay
slipped all the way to #24
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 03:57 PM
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75. Great pick for GB
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:33 AM
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85. Well, that's good for the Packers.
And it may be good for him, as well.
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 03:58 PM
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76. Jason Campbell to Washington
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 04:02 PM
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77. They need to trade Brunell and use the money for a big WR
Edited on Sat Apr-23-05 04:03 PM by nytemare
a DE or another offensive lineman. Maybe somebody needs a sorry back-up...lol.
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 04:03 PM
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78. No one wants his Snyder contract; Brunell would have to be cut
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 04:04 PM
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79. Yeah, they need to cut him then
He was pitiful last year. He was good in his day, but last year sure wasn't his day.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 04:08 PM
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80. don't get this picl=k
odds are he won't get a lot of playing time, so white no for some pne like ROddy WHite or Heath Miller, who can step in and play right away?
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 04:13 PM
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81. I am wondering if they are looking to slash Brunell, really
Hasselbeck is a capable back-up. Brunell is just dead weight sucking up the team's money that can be spent elsewhere. They need an Art Monk type receiver, though.
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 04:13 PM
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82. Roddy White would be a project as well
They needed a qb and got the guy they wanted. The only idiotic thing about it is that they traded too much to get the pick.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 04:23 PM
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83. I wouldn't be suprised if they offer Rod Gardner for 2nd round bait
There aren't many receivers left in free agency, he was picked in the first round. He should be worth a 2nd round pick, he is pretty solid. Sometimes had dropsies, but other times would make some amazing catches.
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 04:26 PM
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84. Rod is worth a 4th rounder, not 2nd
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