Is the SEC is a league of cowards?

[depakid]

Seems so.

[TZ]

1. Hmm..not an SEC fan myself but

Why do you think so? :popcorn:

[trumad]

2. I love insighful Op's...

ugg

[depakid]

8. Florida International- Tennessee-Chattanooga?

:rofl:

[JonLP24]

9. Well Florida has Florida State next week

However Florida's non-conference schedule could be tougher.

Alabama played Virginia Tech which is a worthy non-conference opponent. I'm sure every team has some sort of cupcake on their schedule.

[depakid]

14. How about going up to smurf turf and giving Boise State some love?

I'm sure they'd appreciate it.

Or Schedule a game at Autzen.

[joeybee12]

3. Oh come, just because they won't play decent teams outside the SEC

and pad their schedules with patsies doesn't mean their cowards...oh wait, it does.

[BOSSHOG]

4. You are as usual right on this subject joey

Arkansas padded its schedule this year by scheduling number one ranked Florida and number two ranked Alabama, throw in Ole Miss and Georgia and they should be like 15 and 0. Who are these "decent" teams outside the best conference in the country you are referring to?

[joeybee12]

5. Florida might try Michigan at leats...oh, that's right, that medicore Big 10 school

beat them...yup, just play each other and be in league with the idiot voters who put the entire SEC in the tiop 10, stay away from outsiders,a nd they myth of the SEC continues.

[trumad]

6. LOL---

But the team that Michigan can't beat --Ohio St. can't beat Florida.

Michigan would be lucky to win 5 games in the SEC.

[hughee99]

7. Michigan's only Big 10 win this year was Indiana in a squeaker

They won 5 games this season thanks to their "tough" out-of-conference schedule of Eastern Michigan, Western Michigan, Delaware St and Notre Dame.

This current Michigan team would take several years to win 5 SEC conference games.

[madinmaryland]

10. "and Notre Dame." Classic!!

:rofl:

[era veteran]

28. 5 games in 2 seasons right?

[rep the dems]

32. Are you talking about the 2007 Capital One Bowl?

'Cause if so...wow.

[PVnRT]

11. Except that those are conference games

Next time, try thinking before you post.

[BOSSHOG]

12. Thanks for the encouragement

Actually it does a greater job of proving my point, dickhead. Why should members of the SEC go out searching to put other conference's leaders on their schedule when the conference schedule is rough enough. Is that okay with you dickhead? Think about it dickhead?

[trumad]

13. Well---

You're right---The Gators replaced the annual rivalry with Miami for Montana State. So---why would the SEC stack it's schedule qith quality outside teams?

[BOSSHOG]

18. Because of the plethora of quality inside teams? Year in and year out?

[PVnRT]

15. Uh-oh, someone's a little upset

It's not my fault that SEC schools generally pad their schedules to ensure they get into bowl games. If they're so much better than everyone, why are they so scared to prove it?

[joeybee12]

16. Tpical cyclical reasoning...they say the SEC is too tough, so they

can't go outside, and just keep yelling that it's too tough and never have to prove it by going outside the league.

[BOSSHOG]

17. What does the SEC

have to prove? Arkansas has played USC home and home, they have an ongoing home and home with Texas and to repeat joey, they play an SEC schedule year in and year out. The SEC is not too tough for its members.

[Capt. America]

22. Don't forget this logic either...the SEC is soooo tough, that in any given week a loss to Vandy

or Kentucky in conference speaks to the "strength" of the SEC, namely, that it is sooo tough that a loss to the weakest team in the league is still a "quality" loss. But, if USC loses to Washington or Ohio State loses to Purdue then that goes to show how sucky that league is because their big boys lost to a weak in-conference team.

[joeybee12]

24. We need a playoff system so the SEC can sink to its rightful bottom place...n/t

[Elwood P Dowd]

25. Ask any NFL scout which conference is the best.

They will tell you it's the SEC almost every time.

SEC Leads All Conferences in NFL Opening Day Rosters

The Southeastern Conference had 263 players on the 2007 National Football League opening day active rosters, which led all conferences.

The Atlantic Coast Conference was second with 238 players, followed by the Big Ten with 234 players, Pac-10 with 183 players, Big 12 with 176 players and the Big East with 84 players.

Among SEC schools, Georgia was first with 37 former players on NFL rosters, followed by Tennessee with 36, LSU with 33, Florida with 31 and Auburn with 30. Alabama had 21 players on NFL rosters, while South Carolina had 19, Ole Miss and Mississippi State had 17 each, Arkansas had 12, Kentucky six and Vanderbilt with five.

The SEC had five of its schools with 30-or-more-players on NFL rosters. No other conference had two.

Nationally, Miami (Fla.) leads with 46 former players on NFL rosters, followed by Ohio State with 44, Florida State with 41, Tennessee with 36 and Georgia with 35.

The lists do not include players who were not on opening day rosters and since been activated

[era veteran]

29. Kentucky is going to its 4th straight bowl

Previous 3 were victories. The curse of the Bear is gone replaced by the wisdom of papaw. Beating Tennessee Sat night will be sweet.

[GaYellowDawg]

41. Well...

In 2008, Florida lost at home to Ole Miss, a team with 3 conference losses, and beat Oklahoma, their conference champ.

In 2007, LSU lost to Kentucky and beat the snot out of 2 other conference champs, Ohio State and Virginia Tech.

In 2006 and 2009, Georgia lost 4 conference games (including UK both years) and both years, beat Georgia Tech, a participant in the ACC championship game.

I guess that means the SEC is soooo tough. And please, let's not use Ohio State as an example when they've lost 8 straight games against 7 different SEC teams. You know, LSU, Florida, South Carolina (twice), Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, Auburn.

USC killed Arkansas, no doubt about it, but they have yet to play an SEC champion. How would they have fared against SEC champs? I'd say that in 2001, LSU would have beaten them. 2002, Georgia would have beaten them. 2003 would have been a toss-up between them and LSU. 2004, they would have beaten Auburn. 2005, they would have beaten Georgia handily. 2006, sorry, taking Florida in that one. 2007, I'd say they would have taken LSU. 2008, I would bet on Florida. Then again, in 2004, no one from any conference was beating USC, and in 2005, it took a sloppy game from USC and a superhuman effort from Vince Young to turn the trick.

[jobycom]

19. Yeah, they should play more top teams from out of conference.

They could use the rest.

Problem is, how are you going to get a team like USC to put its neck on the line by playing decent teams?

[JonLP24]

20. USC usually plays tough out of conference

They just played Ohio State at home then away. Before that they did a home and away match-up with Arkansas and Nebraska, and the year they blew out Arkansas lost to Florida in the SEC Championship game of 2006.

They also have to play Notre Dame every year(rivalry). It's not USC's fault Notre Dame, one of the winning-est programs in history turned into the mess it is today.

They only have 3 games to schedule non-conference opponent because like every other Pac-10 team they play 9 conference games, in other words every Pac-10 team.

[GaYellowDawg]

34. Ahem.

This decade, we've played Oklahoma State twice, Arizona State twice, Boise State, Colorado (and we're going to Boulder next year), Troy, Marshall, Clemson twice, and MTSU as out of conference opponents.

As for cowardice - when is the last time a Big 10 team has come south of Kentucky during the regular season?

[quickesst]

40. I'm actually looking forward...

....to the Fiesta Bowl tomorrow. The other game, you know, the one called the "WHO GETS TO LOSE TO AN SEC TEAM THIS YEAR BOWL" won't be nearly as exciting. Thanks.
quickesst:evilgrin:

[enuegii]

21. Let's see... Ohio State played New Mexico State (3-8) of the WAC this year,

Penn State played Akron (2-9) of the Mid-American, and Texas put up a combined 123 points against Louisiana-Monroe and UTEP, so it seems that the SEC isn't the only bottom-feeder in the bunch.
At least Penn State and Alabama will play home and home the next two years, apparently.

[RT Atlanta]

23. How so?

Please elaborate, including sharing your $.02 on which league does not consist of "cowards."

Looking at the last 10 years of most commonly recognized versions of the D1 football "National Championship," the SEC has won or shared half of them - and that doesnt include Auburn who should've had the opportunity to play So. Cal. in 2004 instead of chokelahoma.

[insanity]

26. The Pac-10 is the best conference in football

Top-to-bottom there is far more depth, and if the teams played in different leagues 6 of them would be ranked, and maybe 3 of them could be top-10s. Toughest OOC schedules and a full 9-game season beats us up, but we still win our bowl games.

SEC has some good teams, but I always feel like they are overrated. Even Tim 'Jesus' Tebow and this years Gators are probably not the best team in football.

[Awsi Dooger]

27. I agree with you, and so does Jeff Sagarin

The Pac 10 is obscenely underrated. Jeff Sagarin of USA Today is the most respected power ratings guy in the country. His numbers have the Pac 10 as the strongest conference this year, slightly ahead of the SEC. Typically Sagarin has the Pac 10 narrowly below the SEC but every year it's tight. Somehow the bar stool conventional wisdom idiocy places the SEC comfortably on top and it's chic to assert the Pac 10 is overstated. Again, that's one of the most valid litmus tests toward football knowledge, a person's opinion of the Pac 10. In the East their games are seldom shown so there's a tendency to arrogantly assume it's a lesser league.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc09.htm

[era veteran]

31. Florida would own the Pac 10 this year

Tebow is great but he really doesn't need Jesus on his name . Regardless he is the BEST college player I have ever seen. I have been going to SEC games for a long time. Will be glad to see him move on. I was at Vince Dooley's first game in 1964. SEC football has ruled and will still rule.

[Twillig]

33. But, alas, they're too busy owning Charleston Southern

and Troy,

and Florida International( all home games, of course).

[bluedigger]

30. Auburn isn't looking askairt of Alabama right now.

Onside kick in the first quarter up 7-0. :rofl:

WAR EAGLE!

[4lbs]

35. I agree that all the conferences, not just the SEC, are wimps and are scared of Boise State and TCU.

I mean come on, the Boise State AD and HC are begging to play teams from the BCS conferences, and getting hung up upon.

I'd rather see Florida take on TCU or Boise State during the season instead of a creampuff like Florida International which is little more than a community college.

Same with the Big 12 in Texas or the Big Ten, the ACC, or the PAC-10. They are all afraid of them.

However, the SEC is still the best conference in football.

The SEC has such a great bowl record over the past 3 years, where they typically play against the better teams from other conferences.

The SEC went 6-2 last year's bowl games, 7-2 in 2007's bowl games, and 7-2 in 2006's bowl games.

That's a 20-6 bowl game record, or about an 77% winning percentage the last 3 seasons.

[bamacrat]

36. No, SEC schools have the hardest conference they need easier games here and there.

If they played an SEC schedule and then four more top 25 teams it would be damn near impossible for anyone to get to the NC. Cowards? Notre Dame is the biggest coward in college football, they refuse to join a conference they play three or four tough teams each year and as long as they are ranked they think they get an automatic BCS bid. They suck so it doesnt matter now. The real coward conferences are the ones who do not have a conference championship game. They should not get a chance at the NC when the SEC, Big 12, and ACC all play a conf champ game. who cares if you dont have 12 teams, you could have two teams and still play a conference championship. While TCU and Boise State are good, they play cupcakes week in and week out. Yes they can beat some decent PAC-10 teams but put them in the Big 12 or SEC and they wouldnt survive.

[JonLP24]

37. Teams in the Pac 10 play everyone in the Pac 10

So it would be pointless to have a conference championship game. Only the Big East, WAC, and Sun Belt play everyone in their conference and that's only because they have fewer teams. Every team in the Pac 10 plays 9 Conference games the only one to do so. However I have nothing against the SEC.

[bamacrat]

38. SEC plays 8 out of 12. They should still have a championship game.

Play everyone then the two with the best records play to see who is the best.

[JonLP24]

39. Pac 10 has it's Conference Championship tonight

Oregon State vs Oregon. No need for another one. Playing 9 out of 9 with you being the 10th team is enough and more times out of not a conference "championship" game features one opponent much better then the other like Florida over Arkansas in '06 where that Razorbacks team got blown out by USC or like the Big 12 where you have at least 3 or 4 teams in the Big 12 South that is better then the Big 12 North.