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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 10:49 AM
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Tonight, the Stinkee Skankee Spankmes get to decide if it's a 7 or 8
day playoff series.

Gee, think they're gonna give Minnesota or Detroit an extra day and start the series on Thursday, or start Wednesday when the Spankmes are rested and the other team isn't, and their pitching rotation won't be at its best.

Such a tough decision!!!!!!!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 12:07 PM
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1. Detroit and Minnesota are battling for the right to be the Yankees cannon fodder.
Either team will be lucky to take a single game in the series against NY.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 12:13 PM
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3. From Satan's lips to your ears...
...or something like that. If that happens, we'll know for sure there is no God.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 12:12 PM
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2. You didn't get the meme?? The Skankees are Major League Baseball..
Bud Selig ceded control of baseball to Bud Selig years ago! That's why baseball has become such a joke.

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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 12:13 PM
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4. I'm a hermit...no news whatsoever raeches me...n/t
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Princess Turandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 10:31 PM
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40. I didn't know the Red Sox had been renamed to the Skankees! The rule was instituted in 2007..
The Red Sox, as holders of the best record in the AL, got to choose that year. And they chose the 10/3, 10/5, 10/7 schedule. The following year, the Angels as holders of the best records chose the same staggered schedule.

But surely you knew that?!



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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 04:07 PM
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5. That's what they just did. Tomorrow.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 04:16 PM
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6. Already? They had until an hour after today's game...
...trying to jinx both teams by announcing before they play, eh?
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 04:17 PM
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7. Does ESPN Radio lie?
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 05:12 PM
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8. Yes...
...I'm just saying they had until then to choose...maybe they chose earlier.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 05:18 PM
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9. Says here they COULD have waited:
NEW YORK (AP)—The New York Yankees will start the AL playoffs Wednesday.

The Yankees could have waited until one hour after Tuesday’s AL Central tiebreaker between the Detroit Tigers and Minnesota Twins to pick when they wanted to begin.

The Yankees, holding home-field advantage throughout the postseason, had the choice of starting either Wednesday or Thursday at 6:07 p.m. EDT against the Tigers-Twins winner. They picked to get going right away at Yankee Stadium.

“We just wanted to make sure that everybody was healthy. And everyone is good,” manager Joe Girardi said.

With the schedule they chose, the Yankees will get a day off between Games 1 and 2. The other AL playoff series between Boston and the Los Angeles Angels out West, will now start Thursday night.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 06:49 PM
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16. Does a bear shit in the woods?
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 06:14 PM
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10. Why do the yankees get to choose?
Nobody else gets to choose, so why do the yankees? Yeah yeah, I know, best record and all that, but last year, the Cubs had to play when they were told and they didn't even play the wild card team because the Brewers are in the same division. Just one more reason to loathe the yankees.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 06:22 PM
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11. you can blah blah blah all you want
but the team with the best record gets to choose and that's what happened.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 06:35 PM
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12. Except that last year the Cubs had the best record
And they did not get to choose their starting times, nor should they have. There are different rules for the yankees. They better beware of the Twins btw, assuming the Twins can pull this thing out.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 06:39 PM
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13. last year
the Angels made the decision. This has been the rule for a few years and has nothing to do with the Yankees.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 06:56 PM
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19. I lived through the nightmare years of the late 90's and 2000's in CT,
Edited on Tue Oct-06-09 06:56 PM by madinmaryland
and the Skankees were NEVER shoved to the late slot playing a west coast team, even though they DID play teams on the west coast. The SKANKEES do control the network and Bud Selig and MLB. FUCKING DISGRACEFUL.

Edited to add, I think all the other teams, including the Mets were forced into some of those games.

Parity, MY ASS!

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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 06:58 PM
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20. its all about ratings
more people watch the Yankees because they are the most loved and the most hated.

The Yankees and Selig hate each other. To say they control him is laughable. And by the way, in 1995 the first couple of games of the ALDS weren't staggered the Yankees weren't on nationally.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 07:06 PM
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21. Disgraceful, isn't it.
I do call BS on the your comment that the Skankees don't control Selig. He is definitely controlled by the Skanks and all of the other so called "high revenue" teams.

Who do you think is holding up real salary structure reform. No salary cap or salary min. Yeap, thats the Skankees. God forbid they can't buy themselves a championship

The New York Yankees - "Buying 26 MLB Championships - Priceless"

As I said. Parity, My ASS!

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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 07:09 PM
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22. If the Yankees own MLB they aren't doing so well
Edited on Tue Oct-06-09 07:09 PM by JonLP24
It's been what 9-10 years since the last time the Yanks won?
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 07:28 PM
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25. Dude. Step away from the Kool-aid. The Yankees have been
able to afford for 20 years to be considered a top contender based strictly on salary. What other team can claim that? And they have essentially either won their division or been competitive for a playoff position until the last few days of the season.

GET FUCKING REAL.

Interestingly, except for a handful of years of the last 90 years, the Yankees have OWNED (or is that PWNED) the American League and Major League Baseball.

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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 07:37 PM
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27. Which makes it more enjoyable to watch the Yankees go down
postseason after postseason. Hey, I'm a fan of the 18th highest payroll team and the Marlins were competitive with the lowest in MLB so it's not always about the money but it's the talent you have which the Yankees do and that makes them competitive. Can't say the same about the Cubs who have I think the 3rd highest payroll.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 07:46 PM
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29. Dude! You completely missed the point.
You mention the Marlins, who though they have had two great seasons in their existance, have generally been a shitty team, that cannot draw fans (dammit, sorry to use the cboy attendance thing). Look at all of the other clubs in the payroll category as the Marlins. Yeah, they may have a decent season where they are competitive until September and may actually make a playoff series. But they are not consistently competitive.

I have no interest in watching the yankee control of MLB in the playoffs every year.

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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 09:07 PM
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36. It's not just the money, though...
the Mets have been outspending the rest of the NL for at least as long, and managed to suck for much (not all) of the last 20 years while doing it. It's the counterargument to the "buy a championship" claim. They've spent 20 years trying to by a championship and they've only managed to buy 1 NL EAST title (2006) and only 3 playoff appearances.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 09:14 PM
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37. Hmmm. A Red Sox fan supporting the status quo.
Yeap. Skankees = Roid Sox.

nuff said.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 10:00 PM
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38. Supporting the status quo?
I'm all for a salary cap in MLB, I'm just saying A LOT or people talk about the Yankees "buying" a championship. As the Yankees salary got more and more out of line with the rest of baseball, though, they stopped winning championships. The money can help you be competitive every year, but you can't buy a championship.

One other thing. There is no salary cap and the Yankees are bringing in more than $300 million dollars. What are they supposed to do with the money? They could run it like the Marlins (traditionally one of the most profitable franchises) or they could spend the money to improve the team and pay it's workers better. In 2006, the Marlins got $31 million from revenue sharing (free money that's SUPPOSED to be spent to improve the team) and spent less than $15 million IN TOTAL on players. Revenue sharing covered their entire payroll plus an additional 16 million dollars before even taking into account a single dollar in of actual Marlins revenue. It's pretty fucked up when the owner who pays the employees better (and gives them a larger share of the profits) is the asshole, and owners who pocket the most money for themselves are the ones we're trying to protect.

If a company was overpaying its workers, driving up wages for everyone, and spending a larger percentage of their profits on the workers who make the company what it is, they'd be F'n heroes here on the DU.

If an owner was getting $30 million of free additional money to improve their product (not counting their actual revenues), and spend less than 1/2 that on the team, AND make roughly a $40 million dollar profit that year, we'd be calling for his head.

Except it's baseball... and it's the Yankees... so fuck 'em.

I'm going to take a shower now, I feel very dirty for defending the Yankees, and I'm not sure I'd do it again.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 07:09 PM
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23. the union
is holding up salary structure reform.

Funny about a Dallas Cowboy fan complaining about an owner with deep pockets. Really funny.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 07:15 PM
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24. Blame the union. Yeap.
Yeah, Dallas' owner has deep pockets, but the other 32 owners also have a responsibility to spend at levels that will push them toward competitiveness. You actually cannot compare the NFL to MLB as they have totally different structures. I think Rush Limbaugh should be looking to getting into ownership in baseball rather than football, as he would fit in better with his free market, racist ways. He and Steinbrenner would make good buddies.

There is none in MLB, and in fact they are actually encouraged to spend less so that the wealthiest of the wealthy can control the sport.

DISGRACEFUL.

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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 07:29 PM
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26. except
Jerry Jones is trying to end revenue sharing. He has said as much. He's also tried to get sponsorship deals outside the arrangement.

MLB cannot institute a salary cap outside of collective bargaining. They tried with the 1994 lockout. Our new Supreme Court Justice stopped that. You can blame the Yankees all you want, but the union won't allow the cap.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 07:41 PM
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28. A couple of comments for you..
Regardless of what JJ trying to end revenue sharing, it will not happen. Football has had commissioners and still does that will see that it continues.

Interestingly, since MLB has an anti-trust agreement which was brokered by the OWNERS and not the players, the Owners can really control the CBA, and what is done. Until the wealthy owner end their hold out to revenue sharing, their will continue to be the degradation of competition and interest in MLB.

DISGRACEFUL.

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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 07:48 PM
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30. years and years
of work stoppages have demonstrated that the owners cannot do what they want to do. They tried to collude to hold down salaries in the 80s and were smacked down in court. They have lost every strike. The MLBPA is enormously powerful no matter how much you seek to blame the Yankees.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 07:59 PM
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31. Wow! I realize you have a lot of the NY Kool-aid, but
Edited on Tue Oct-06-09 08:00 PM by madinmaryland
all of the lawsuits and work stoppages are just to get close to an equal say in negotiation with the Owners. You really seem anti-union to me. And have the Owners actually lost every strike? They lost battles then started "colluding". Interestingly, since they are STILL exempt from anti-trust laws (like your health insurance company is), they still have the upper hand in the negotiations. There are only TWO industries that have an exemption. Guess who is getting SCREWN! It's NOT the OWNERS and the Health Insurance Companies.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 08:07 PM
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32. I am as pro union
a person as you will ever find. You want a salary cap. I don't care about such things.

They may have the upper hand in your mind, but they have always ended up caving before the players because they didn't want to lose money they would to keep holding out. The only thing the players union has ever given has been on drug testing. They really had no choice in that regard.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 08:13 PM
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33. Regardless of what you think, I want parity in baseball, just as in all the other
major sports. That to me, means a salary cap with revenue sharing as is done in the other major sports.

One of the few things the players did NOT give in on is drug testing (sadly). As I said, which in your Steinbrenner jaded mind you cannot fathom, is that with the Anti-trust exemption, the owners DO have the upper hand. They do.

Eliminate the Anti-trust Exemption and the Yankees will be FUCKED!
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 08:22 PM
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34. the anti-trust exemption
wouldn't affect player's salaries. It would allow owner to move wherever they want. There isn't a cap in football because of the lack of an anti-trust exemption. Its a result of weaker unions in those sports. The NFL under Upshaw was almost a house union it gave in so easily.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 08:30 PM
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35. Wow! Just wow!
:wow:

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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 06:42 PM
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14. and here is the proof that Angels had best record, not Cubs
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/MLB/2008-standings.shtml

Maybe you can stop this different rules for Yankees nonsense.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 06:47 PM
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15. Ok, I was wrong
But I still don't like the yankees.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 06:50 PM
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17. that's cool
nobody but us Yankee fans do. Kudos for admitting your error. Lots of people just would have stopped posting.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 06:52 PM
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18. I see you missed the meme, also. Bud Selig ceded all control of baseball
to the New York Skankee organization and the YES network. The Skanks get to pick when and where they get to play the games.

No wonder baseball is completely FUCKED!
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smoochpooch Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 12:42 AM
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39. Didn't they get to choose b/c of Vikings game on Monday? n/t
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