To the Couch Potato who thinks Golf is lame and not a sport....

[trumad]

Oh really?

Let's break down a couple of different sport athletes and compare them to a Golf athlete.

Do you think a Pitcher in Major League baseball is a Sports Athlete?
He throws a ball--- and occasionally fields a grounder or covers first base. Oh sure---in the NL he gets to hit every 5 days...in the AL--never.

But----

He uses his body to put velocity on a ball to get it exactly where he wants to get it---preferably in the Strike zone---or in Matt Cain's case---upside the head of an opposing player. The skill to use his body and mind to deliver pitches exceeding 90 MPH is pretty damn special.

Do you think that Dan Marino who was one of the best QB's in Football history is a Sports Athlete? As we all know---Danny boy was never much of a runner. The guy played for 17 seasons (242 games)and ran for a total of 87 yards. So---it's pretty safe to think that Danny was just a drop back passer who was good in the pocket.

He too used his body to put velocity on the ball to get it exactly where he wanted to get it...IE: in the receivers hands.

so I ask again: Is a Pitcher in the MLB or a drop back QB like Marino a sports athlete?

Because if you say they are--- then why would you not classify a guy like Tiger Woods a sports athlete? After all, he is doing the same damn thing that the Pitcher and QB are doing---he is using his body to put velocity on the ball to get it exactly where he wants to get it---IE: on the fairway or the green.

Here's what I think about those who say Golf is not a sport. They're Douchebag Couch Potatos who wouldn't know a 3-wood if it was stuck up their fat ass. They pop in the sports forum every once in a while with their sanctimonious bullshit about the game---not knowing what the fuck they're talking about---and then hightail it back to the Oprah club in the lounge.

They're about as useless as the orange shit on a Cheetos puff...

Douchbags....

[El Supremo]

1. Do any of them ride around in carts?

Venezuelan Presidente For Life, Hugo Chávez (a noted fan of baseball), is right:

"Let’s leave this clear," Mr. Chávez said during a live broadcast of his Sunday television program. "Golf is a bourgeois sport," he said, repeating the word "bourgeois" as if he were swallowing castor oil. Then he went on, mocking the use of golf carts as a practice illustrating the sport’s laziness.

[trumad]

3. He needs to be renamed Hugeo....

[El Supremo]

6. As in Hugheo?

[hughee99]

12. Didn't baseball use carts to get bullpen pitchers to the mound

for a while?

And golfers in tournaments are not allowed to use carts.

[PVnRT]

14. The construction people on site here who play in our golf league

would be interested in knowing that they're now bourgeois. Not to my mention my dad and his buddies on the factory line who played in a company golf league back in the late 1970's. Or my uncle, the now-retired journeyman machinist.

Golf carts are mostly pushed by the courses themselves to get people through faster, thus getting more people on the course. If you took them away tomorrow, few people would stop golfing.

[fishwax]

2. I don't get why people get worked up about what is or isn't a sport or about

what other people think is or isn't a sport. Whether one calls golf a sport or a game has no bearing on the physicality or technical skill required by and demonstrated by the sport/game's top practitioners. Being a game is not an inherently bad thing. Being a sport is not an inherently good thing. I don't care either way.

Whether it's a sport or not, though, there is no doubt that what Woods does on a golf course requires fitness and strength as well as incredible skill and mastery over the mechanics of his body.

[Awsi Dooger]

21. I don't care about terms

I've argued the sport/game aspect previously but it's generally irrelevant.

The comparisons to darts or chess is what irks me. It demonstrates runaway ignorance by the poster. Invariably those comments are made by people who watch a handful of shots on TV and the announcer says something like, "Tiger needs to cut this around the tree. Back left of the green would be ideal, leaving an uphill putt." Then when he pulls it off they brainstorm it's a physical automatic, more strategic than skill.

[Forkboy]

4. I think in some ways that what Tiger does is even harder than what Marino or Cain do.

And I repost this for the knob ends that say it isn't a sport....


Just where golf fits in with our other popular sporting pursuits is one of those juicy arguments that never goes away. That golf is a highly refined skill is beyond dispute. But is it, you know, sport, as we define and celebrate sport? Is it good or bad for golf that a man pushing 60 can compete at such a high level in one of its most prestigious competitions?
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If proficiency at an advanced age is to be viewed as a complete negative to a sport’s integrity, then golf has to plead guilty. Well, then, what about auto racing? Are you aware that 81-year-old Hershel McGriff just finished 13th in a NASCAR-sanctioned event at the Portland (Ore.) International Speedway? Yup, and isn’t 50-year-old Mark Martin having a pretty big year racing against the big boys of Sprint Cup?
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Golf’s greatest advertisement, however, is this: It is the sport an astonishing percentage of all other top-flight athletes wish they could master. Among Woods’s other distinctions is the simple fact that he is the most admired athlete by other athletes. And why? Because they all know how hard it is to play golf well.
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Granted, golf does not test people on a physical par with countless other pursuits. But it tests its participants emotionally at the highest stress level, and in the end Tom Watson, who had beaten the competition through 71 holes, could not close the deal.

That he did so well for so long speaks volumes about him. That he was made to look so helpless in the end speaks volumes about golf.

http://www.boston.com/sports/golf/articles/2009/07/22/making_tee_time_to_defend_watson____and_sport_of_golf/

[madinmaryland]

5. Who cares, cboy. BTW, Tiger Woods and all professional golfers

have to walk the course. Except for the guy who wanted to get a handicap exemption to use a cart.

[MrSlayer]

7. How many times has Tiger Woods been blindside sacked by a 275 pound man who runs a 4.8 40?

Or touched at all? Never. He needs absolute silence to take his shot or he whines like a punk. How many times has someone hit the ball directly into Tiger's face? Never. How many times has he been run over while covering a position in his game? Never. To be a sport there has to be defense and there has to be hitting. Golf is walking around after a ball, trying to knock it into a hole that no one defends. There is no physical aspect. A 58 year-old man nearly won one of the majors a short time ago. Put a 58 year-old man under center for one play in the NFL and he might very well be killed. Put that same 58 year-old in a major league game and he'll be lit up like Michael Jackson in a Pepsi commercial. You have to be tough to play QB, real tough. You have to be tough to pitch over a 162 game schedule. Any marshmallow can play golf.

Golf is a game, a game that takes skill and mental toughness but so does bowling. Comparing the athletic prowess of a golfer to a pro-QB or pro-pitcher is absolutely ludicrous.

For the record, I am not a couch potato and I know one club from the other without needing to have them stuck up my ass. Most clubs tell you what they are right on the head.

In the immortal words of George Carlin, "Fuck Tiger Woods."

[Condem]

9. I'll start out by saying this, MrSlayer

Much respect for you. But the anti-golf establishment is way the fuck off base. A lineman who runs wha? So fucking what. Sports is competition. Golf is competition. Therefore, a sport. See how fucking easy that is? Any marshmallow can play golf. Not competitively. Any marshmallow can run, bike, throw a football. Not with the best, though. Man, what shit.

[trumad]

11. Wow---you know a club ....

Unfortunately you don't know how to use it or you wouldn't spot such bullshit.

Come on---admit you suck at the game so therefor you diss it.

The dumbasses who say it's not a sport simply suck at it and most likely suck at most sports...

Ask any athlete if Tiger is an athlete and they'll say hell yeah...

Ask any fat assed couch potato and they'll say...uhhhh no.

You're a fucking couch potato.

[MrSlayer]

19. Not at all, I just don't respect it as a sport.

Any more than I respect a dart thrower as an athlete.

Any time you'd care to join me on the ice for a little hockey, give me a call. Couch potato? Not even close.

Actually I'm pretty good at golf. Nowhere near pro level of course but I can get the ball past the windmill in one go most of the time.

:hi:

[PVnRT]

15. So, the requirement for being a sport is to get hit with things?

Yes, if you put a golfer under center against the 1985 Bears, he'd get creamed. So would most baseball, hockey, tennis, soccer and lacrosse players. Each sport requires a different set of skills; give Peyton Manning a 15 stroke advantage, and I guarantee you he'd still lose to just about any pro on the tour, man or woman.

Physical toughness is not the only requirement in any sport. For all his stats, how many championships did Dan Fouts win? How about Marino? Mental toughness is much more important to any sport; if your mind can't handle it, your body can't either. Period. And it requires a hell of a lot of mental toughness if you're leading in day four of a tournament with Tiger within shooting distance and yet to tee off. See, in golf, you can do absolutely fuck-all about anyone you're playing. You can have the round of your life and still lose by five strokes. Anyone who argues that doesn't require a degree of toughness is a liar.

Besides, if physical contact and hitting define a sport, how the fuck is basketball still in that category? You get a foul called if you look at someone funny.

[chollybocker]

8. If you can smoke a cigarette while playing, it's not a sport.

[trumad]

10. Yeah---whatever....

[hughee99]

13. Exactly...

[madinmaryland]

17. Uhhhmmmm....

http://images.theage.com.au/ftage/ffximage/2008/10/30/daly_john_prison_narrowweb__300x409,0.jpg

[Forkboy]

18. LOL...end of story.

:rofl:

[brendan120678]

20. Those early 70's White Sox uniforms are rather...

unusual, I guess is the word. Although, not quite as bad as the early 80's uniforms:

[PVnRT]

16. How about acid?

Dock Ellis pitched a no-hitter while tripping balls. If you can't smoke, you certainly shouldn't be able to be high while doing a sport. Besides, you can't possibly swing correctly with a cigarette in your mouth.

[DaveinMD]

22. its not a sport

unless your opponent is involved in affecting your play. Baseball is a sport because the hitter is trying to hit the ball that is pitched. Golf is not a sport because your opponent can do nothing to affect your shot. Its a skill, but not a sport.

[PVnRT]

23. So how does that work for, say, pole vaulting?