Is the 2000 years of peace on Earth just B4 or after 2nd Coming ?

[texpatriot2004]

This weekend there were many threads here at DU on evil, and the Anti-Christ, and the "end times" this got me to thinking and wondering about the period of peace that is supposed to exist on Earth. Can anyone here shed light on this or does anyone here care to share their thoughts on this?

[TimeToGo]

1. It is a thousand years and

people have been arguing about pre or post for years.

[tocqueville]

3. arguing for 1000 years ?

maybe more..

[woodsprite]

2. I always got the impression it was AFTER. n/t

[RobertSeattle]

4. It was a typo - Thousand Years of Peas

:silly:

[FrankieBud]

5. I think it is after.

I always wonder though, when will we be mushed into the Grapes of Wrath?

[Double T]

6. As long as there are humans, there can never be peace on earth......

throughout recorded and unrecorded history there is evidence of violence, hatred and war

[McKenzie]

7. Jesus was not divine

the scriptures are doctored and they have been misinterpreted ever since the Council of Nicea decided to promote their own version of those texts in the fourth century AD. What we read in the scriptures cannot be taken literally, at least not in the context of revealed truth. An example is the death of Jesus, which is a spiritual death, not a physical death on a cross.

As for "End Time" the Book of Revelation is just that, a "revelation", not a prophecy. Even theologians are divided on what Revelation really means.

[texpatriot2004]

8. I Disagree. Jesus was Divine. n/t

[McKenzie]

9. fair enough...think about the "virgin birth"

the translation of the bible into Latin uses the word "virgo" which means literally "young woman". If Jesus' mother had been a virgin, as we understand the word, the terminology would have been "virgo intacta", or "woman intact". That is not what the Latin versions of the scriptures said; they use the term "virgo". Thus, we rely on the Latin translation which differs from the original Greek version in use of terminology..."virgo" means "young woman" it does NOT mean "virgin".

I could go on...I won't. Suffice it to say that the translation from Greek to Latin to the King James' version of the bible required extraordinary introduction of language that has no direct parallel in English. The myth that Jesus' father was a carpenter is one example...the term "carpenter" is simply linguistic convenience in the absence of a direct translation of what should really read as "a man of the craft".

No offense meant friend BTW.

<edit> spelling

[texpatriot2004]

10. No offense taken. I see you are well read. Interesting "virgo"

history.

I think it is a matter of faith and I certainly don't have all the answers but I am not one of those "Christians" that are publicly giving Christ a bad name (at least I hope not) nor do I believe that intellect and faith have to be seperated; they can coexist IMHO.

[McKenzie]

11. I respect people of faith

I have friends who have deeply held beliefs and I admire their faith. I am not a Christian although I admire, and respect, faith.

I'm not an atheist although that might sound a tad silly...faith kicks in here and it's not for discussion...it's personal.

Keep your faith my friend...real belief in what Jesus really meant is to be admired, not ridiculed, even though I attack lunatic fundies who preach intolerance and not love.

[texpatriot2004]

12. Lunatic fundies should be attacked...Pharisees the lot of 'em.

I don't think it's silly to be somewhere between athiest and some kind of believer; Faith is personal. America is supposed to be about religious freedom without persecution.

And I love the story of the Doubting Thomas. Jesus told Thomas to "doubt until he believed." In other words, IMHO, use your reason to seek the Truth. My God doesn't call us to be sheeples blindly following those who sound good when they speak in public but whose fruits are rotten to the core.

I appreciate the respectful way that you dialogue about this issue. Tolerance is lacking for many who discuss this matter.

[onager]

13. Depends. Are you a Pre-Millenial Dispensationalist...

...a Post-Millenialist, an Amillenialist, or one of the other flavors of Armageddon Groupies?

A google should help you figure this out. I grew up among people who devoutly believed this stuff and even they couldn't keep it straight.

After studying the various claims, I agree with Mr. T. Jefferson that it's all a bunch of raving nonsense out of a bad dream.

[beam me up scottie]

14. Shouldn't you be packing?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm?
:evilgrin:

[texpatriot2004]

15. Funny : ) Well, since I am not one of those Holier-Than-Though

Fundies, I am not certain I get to go. I presume you are talking about Jesus taking His people, like the rapture? Not sure if that's what you mean.

You're comment was funny though.

[beam me up scottie]

16. Actually, I meant just that.

He needs to pack for a business trip.
Sorry!:blush:

And I'm pretty sure that if the rapture comes, O and I will be in a bar somewhere drinking and sending the christians off properly.

:evilgrin:

[CatholicEdHead]

17. According to rethoric, it is 1000 years of peace after the 2nd coming

which is talked about as some magical snap of the finger by Jesus and HE (nobody else ;) ) will make things better. :rolleyes: