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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 08:54 AM
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Belief in Reincarnation Tied to Memory Errors
Belief in Reincarnation Tied to Memory Errors

People who believe they have lived past lives as, say, Indian princesses or battlefield commanders are more likely to make certain types of memory errors, according to a new study.

The propensity to make these mistakes could, in part, explain why people cling to implausible reincarnation claims in the first place.

Researchers recruited people who, after undergoing hypnotic therapy, had come to believe that they had past lives.

Subjects were asked to read aloud a list of 40 non-famous names, and then, after a two-hour wait, told that they were going to see a list consisting of three types of names: non-famous names they had already seen (from the earlier list), famous names, and names of non-famous people that they had not previously seen. Their task was to identify which names were famous.

The researchers found that, compared to control subjects who dismissed the idea of reincarnation, past-life believers were almost twice as likely to misidentify names. In particular, their tendency was to wrongly identify as famous the non-famous names they had seen in the first task. This kind of error, called a source-monitoring error, indicates that a person has difficulty recognizing where a memory came from.


The full article can be read at http://www.livescience.com/othernews/070406_past_lives.html
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 08:56 AM
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1. maybe they recognize the 'non-famous' names as significant
figures from their past lives...!
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:03 AM
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3. I subscribed to that theory in my last lifetime
And I will probably subscribe to it again in my next lifetime.

But for now, whatever...
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:02 AM
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2. Perhaps that explains why
Reincarnation claims are always glamorous. I've never heard anyone claim to be a reincarnated slave or serf who died at the age of 11 from cholera.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:03 AM
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4. That's me! How did you know?
You must be a clairvoyant in this lifetime...
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:05 AM
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5. No, but I was in a previous life
As an Egyptian Pharaoh
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:05 AM
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6. I was Shirley McLaine in a past life
:rofl:
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:09 AM
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8. Maybe you still are
and you just don't recognize yourself. Memory may be faulty. Or so you say.
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cyborg_jim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:06 AM
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7. Past lives? Pffft...
I am currently living three lives simultaneously. Beat that!
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:29 AM
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9. So, any practicing Hindi had memory errors?
That's only a few hundred million people.

Funny how they are all concentrated in mostly just one area.
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cyborg_jim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:33 AM
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10. Yeah, and everyone who is say they're a Christian believes the Holy Spook is talking to them
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:47 AM
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12. No, have you already forgotten details of the study? ;)
Researchers recruited people who, after undergoing hypnotic therapy, had come to believe that they had past lives.

.....

The researchers found that, compared to control subjects who dismissed the idea of reincarnation, past-life believers were almost twice as likely to misidentify names. In particular, their tendency was to wrongly identify as famous the non-famous names they had seen in the first task. This kind of error, called a source-monitoring error, indicates that a person has difficulty recognizing where a memory came from.

www.livescience.com/othernews/070406_past_lives.html
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:52 AM
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13. When I learned Logic
That was called the "general to specific" fallacy.Now it seems to have a different name. Times change

http://www.logicalfallacies.info/fallacyofdivision.html
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 10:16 AM
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18. The study was about personal belief, not religious belief
There is a big difference between believing in reincarnation as a theological principle, and believing in reincarnation because you think you actually remember past lives. It is much like believing in extraterrestrial intelligence as a scientific possibility and believing in extraterrestrial intelligence because you think you were abducted.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 10:35 AM
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20. I agree with you, but the thread is really mistitled, as was the article
Edited on Thu Apr-12-07 10:36 AM by kwassa
TechBear_Seattle:
"It is much like believing in extraterrestrial intelligence as a scientific possibility and believing in extraterrestrial intelligence because you think you were abducted"

I think a religious believer might see it as more than just a possibility, however. To them it is a truth, perhaps a literal truth.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 11:13 AM
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21. The thread is titled the same as the article itself
I am not arguing, just reiterating my personal policy when posting news stories. :hi:
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Silent3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:44 AM
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11. I remember a past life as a simple serf...
...in medieval Europe. It wasn't glamorous at all. Bad food (and precious little of that), short brutish lives, nothing but dial-up access to the internet.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 10:10 AM
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15. I remember you.
You were that little scamp that kept poaching on my game preserve.

I've got you now. You can't get away this time!
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:58 AM
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14. I used to believe in reincarnation.
When I was in college and in my 20's.

I thought next time I'd have a better life.

Then on the other hand, next time might really suck. I might be born into some Third World desperately poor country, with physical and/or mental problems, etc.

Thank goodness I don't believe in it any more! :silly:


Seriously, I don't believe in reincarnation.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 10:11 AM
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16. I thought you were going to say
I used to believe in reincarnation. In a past life. But I don't anymore.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 10:22 AM
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19. That's good! nt
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 10:13 AM
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17. All the people I know who believe in reincarnation
Are always reincarnated from either famous people or if not famous (because of the lack of record-keeping in that particular epoch), they were at least important people like warrior-chieftains.

Reincarnation is just SCA for people too lazy to make medieval costumes. :)

TlalocW
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