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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 01:06 PM
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The Ukraine Identity
Hello guys,

I was over Chile during the last 12 days and I just came back yesterday.

I am glad that the effort and the struggle continues, because, make no mistake about it, if that is not the case, the American democratic system is all but dead.

If you have read the news about Ukraine's election last weekend, you don't need more facts. Fraud is something common anywhere, if the losing party does not fight back the rigged results of an unfair election. The Republicans think that the DNC is not going to fight back and, so far, they are correct.

I am just amazed at the nerve of the people pretending that the Ukraine and the USA scenarios are different. May I ask: different how?

Why some people continues pounding away the facts and declaring that Americans "just don't practice electoral fraud"?

Why James Carville still is accepted as a "Democratic strategist"?

If you guys don't really understand yet what is going on here, let me repeat it:

WHAT HAPPENED ON NOVEMBER 2ND, 2004, WAS ELECTORAL FRAUD. THE BIGGEST AND MOST AMAZING ATTEMPT IN AMERICAN POLITICAL HISTORY. THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO CRUSH THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND INSTALL A ONE PARTY REGIME USING "LEGAL MEANS."

Write to your democratic representatives, put pressure on the DNC "leadership", do not stop, do not give up, do not listen to the mainstream media...!

Because if you do, the game is officially over and with that, the American political model.

Regards.

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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 01:10 PM
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1. Chile? Last 12 days?
Any connection with Bush visit?
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 01:15 PM
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2. Yes and no...
That was just a coincidence.

It was an interesting visit, though.

The Chilean people can't believe Bush "won", they don't understand the DNC acceptance of the fraud and, finally, they see all the similarities between the Ukraine and the USA cases and they just laugh at the American media double standards.

BTW, thousands of protesters went to the streets of Santiago to show Bush that he is not their leader.

Regards.
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Cowboy Joe2k Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 11:42 PM
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3. All world Leades should follow the example set by Powell.
All world leaders should state in no uncertain terms word for word:

"We cannot accept this result as legitimate because it does not meet international standards and because there has not been an investigation of the numerous and credible reports of fraud and abuse" -Colin Powell

I believe it is possible that perhaps Powell was trying to give all world leaders and perhaps every person around the world and in this country the exact wording that needs to be used in dealing with the results of this and any election that stinks so heavily of Fraud.

I would point out the work of Bev at www.blackboxvoting.org

I would also point out that any President should do all that he or she can to insure that there is no fraud in the election process.

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GregD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 02:10 AM
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4. The hell with writing. We're marching in San Francisco on Monday!
Anyone near the Bay Area, please join us.

http://www.usvip.org/article.asp?id=4&bc=3
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