Check out Paul Robeson Jr.'s Book! It has the scoop on election fraud!!!

[Melissa G]

(even though he calls it vote fraud and Faye is gonna have a hissy when she sees that...)

I just ran out and bought the hard back $23.95..no paperback yet, but we need to demand one.

Excerpts from chapter 6.. This excerpt is about the 2000 election.

From "A Black Way of Seeing from "Liberty" to Freedom" by Paul Robeson Jr.
p102

The fraudulent switching of Black votes was especially egregious. About 0.2 million Black votes that had been cast for Nader were officially not counted (i.e., "lost") after being switched to Bush, increasing his total from 4.9 million to 50.1 million, and his share of the Black vote from 6 percent to 8 percent. In addition, the Black vote for Gore was reduced from the 92 percent predicted by the exit polls to 90 percent. This "loss" reduced his total by about 0.2 million votes from 52.7 million to 52.5 million.

At least 1.1 million counted Black votes were illegally invalidated and then switched to the white category.(They could not be switched directly, since the Black and white votes were cast in different locations, often on different types of machines.)Consequently the total Black vote was reduced by one percent from 11 percent to 10 percent of the overall total, while the white vote was increased from 77 percent to 78 percent. Since the white vote favored Bush by 54 to 42 percent, this switch of Black votes to white votes increased Bush's total from 50.1 million to 50.5 million and decrease Gore's total from 52.5 million to 52.0 million.

Finally, 1.0 million white Gore votes were invalidated, reducing his total from 52.0 million to 51.0 million.

These manipulations with 0.2 (Black votes "lost" and then switched) + 1.1(Black votes illegally invalidated and then switched)+ 1.0(white votes invalidated) for a total of 2.3 million votes were covered up by a series of alterations within the invalid-vote category.

I'm gonna have to go read this gem cover to cover!!! any typos above are mine...

[Melissa G]

1. In case you missed the Harlem bookfest panel yesterday...

THIS Will Be REBROADCAST today!!!! Thanks to Liam laddie for the info!

C-Span 2 rebroadcast of Harlem Book Fair
from C-span website - Sunday, July 23, 10 p.m. EDT, which would put
the Elections Panel beginning about 11:45 p.m. Program that VCR!!!

[Melissa G]

2. Here is an excerpt on the 2004 election from the book..

p.104-105

Despite all of these manipulations, the outcome of the 2004 election hinged on the popular vote in the state of Ohio. Here, Kerry's predicted substantial lead of about 250,000 votes vanished, and Bush "won" by about 120,000 votes. This result was apparently achieved by switching 370,000 Kerry votes to the Bush column.

Partial evidence of this fraud was revealed by Ohio Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell, when he stated in a New York Times interview that 93,000 out of 5.7 million total valid Ohio ballots did not indicate a vote for President. This would mean that 1.7 percent of Ohio voters chose to vote for "none of the above" in casting their presidential ballot--a virtual impossibility, because the nationwide percentage of this ballot category was only 0.17 percent.

Of the fourteen states in which Black votes were switched, nine are controlled by Republican governors. This fact made it relatively easy for Black Republicans to manipulate Black votes cast in predominantly Black neighborhoods. In addition, some prominent Black ministers in these states were bribed by the Bush campaign to sell the false Republican claim that in 2004, Black voters shifted significantly toward Bush on the basis of their opposition to gay marriage.

Reliable figures confirm that the 91 percent Black Democratic vote in 2004 was virtually the same as the 92 percent in 2000 and was based on the overwhelming black disenchantment with Bush.

[Awsi Dooger]

3. He needs a bit of work on the basics

That 93,000 figure was for spoiled ballots along with intentional non-votes, so that .17% figure is not applicable. Robeson should know that. I almost wonder if he did know that, but intentionally chose Blackwell's comments in the NYT interview -- where he might not have specified the over vote/under vote aspect -- to imply fraud, and not the typical error rate of punch cards. Ohio's residual rate was roughly two-tenths lower in 2004 than 2000. Again, Blackwell is a pure thief but let's not invent or mislead when it's unnecessary. I guess suppression doesn't sell books or warrant headlines, while electronic voting machines and words like switching are much sexier.

Also, tilting from a 250,000 margin one way to 120,000 in favor of the other side requires switching 185,000 votes, not 370,000.

Things like that make me skeptical of anything he claims, but I will watch the CSPAN replay tonight.

[Melissa G]

8. Okay Awsi, you watch the replay and let me know what you think

It sounded interesting to me so I went out and bought the book.
I skipped to the chapter in the middle that related to election fraud and posted a couple of teaser
4 paragraphs..Then I went out to dinner with the hubby...I'll read further into the book and you can watch the replay and we shall see where that takes us...

[L. Coyote]

4. "...the nationwide percentage ... was only 0.17 percent..." Correction.

You wrote: "Blackwell ... stated ... that 93,000 out of 5.7 million total valid Ohio ballots did not indicate a vote for President. This would mean that 1.7 percent of Ohio voters chose to vote for "none of the above" in casting their presidential ballot--a virtual impossibility, because the nationwide percentage of this ballot category was only 0.17 percent....."

Indeed, the non-vote is evidence of voting irregularities. Blackwell knows that all too well. However, you need to check that "0.17 percent" datum. It is under 1 percent, but not nearly that low. There is no state that low, a problem that requires attention.

From: http://jqjacobs.net/politics/ohio.html

"Ohio recorded near the highest rate in 2004. At the same time, for Ohio electronic votes the percentage is near normal, just 0.76%, compared to 1.90% for punch card votes. In punch card counties, a substantial portion of the Ohio vote was either not even counted or, due to cross-voting, not counted as the voter intended...."



Figure "illustrating non-vote correlations for the state of Ohio, the correlation is greatest, at 0.484, with Peroutka votes in counties with greater than the median percentage of non-votes. This correlation indicates the degree of cross-voting."

Third-party vote percentages are also an indicator of cross-voting!!

"...cross-voting, was highest in precincts with the highest levels of Kerry support. The amount of cross-voting, as indicated by higher non-voting, also correlates with Kerry support."

Ohio summary: http://jqjacobs.net/politics/xls/ohio_summary.xls

[Melissa G]

9. Hi L.Coyote, I'm doing exact quotes to the best of my ability from

the pages cited. I don't know how to put in footnote numbers or italicize but other than that i think it is how I saw it in print...

so what I posted is what he wrote... Is this your Ohio summary? It looks like what is posted on Freeman's site..

[IndyOp]

5. Melissa - When were the votes switched? How?

How do you switch Black votes to White votes?

:shrug:

I trust that Mr. Robeson is on to something very important - I am just not following from this brief summary.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

6. we need to add a "how to hack" info packet as a warning.

not that we would instruct or suggest that people hack the vote to the democrats, mind you.

[Bill Bored]

7. Sounds like he's talking exit polls, but might be something else.

The show is on at 11:45 tonight on C-Span 2.

[Melissa G]

11. my sense BB, is that it is your least favorite topic so you may want to

run away now... My sense was that he was talking about two sets of data that were posted in the NYT a couple of days apart. As I understand it, the difference in those two sets of data about ethnic breakdown was where he thought the votes were manipulated..watch the show and let me know what you think if you can stand to think about the dreaded exit polls anymore...

[Bill Bored]

15. I was going to watch it but I honestly forgot.

What did you learn Melissa G?

[Melissa G]

16. What i think I learned BB was that Robeson believes the votes were shifted

by ethnicity... black votes are 90 plus percent Kerry. If you steal them and shift them into the white vote column the same number of votes will be able to trend more dramatically toward Bush.
R believes this happened in 2000 and then the same 1.1 mil got shifted in 2004 plus 2.1 mil latino and some black naderites..this seems like a slush fund of invalid votes being manipulated.
I think this is what I learned from the show but i'm gonna go read the book and see if i can get my foggy brain around this.. He maintains the threahhold for victory in 2004 was3.4 million and so that is what they shifted.
Brighter, less tired, minds might wanna weigh in. The stats he was using seemed to come from two NYT reports a couple of days apart... I think this is on the net now if you wanna watch it. Hubby is kicking me off the computer now.. I'll find you a link later after dinner but try helderheid's thread on this..she said she was gonna post one..

[Melissa G]

17. Thanks to garybeck we have a link..

http://www.solarbus.org/election/multimedia.shtml

Here is my summation...
The back up documentation was not what I would have hoped for given his assertions...
The man is a legend and I am glad he and his constituency are on our side but this does not seem to be his field. He is a welcome breath of backbone in a land of jellyfish but while i believe the election was stolen and that there is plenty of evidence of this, I'm not sure his would be the first I would cite for convincing anyone.

appendix B p.196-7 gives the crux of his case...He shows a series of three categories of switches using mostly ethnic trades in and out of the invalid category which he uses like a vote laundering operation. Below is his explanation...He uses two tables that I'm not computer savvy enough to be able to duplicate to illustrate the following switches:


"1. A total of 1.8 million Black votes were switched-- 1.2 million from Gore to Invalid, and 0.6 million from Black Invalid to White Invalid;

2. 0.2 million Black votes originally in the Nader & Category (see asterisk) were switched to the invalid category, followed by validation of originally Invalid Black votes which were then switched from the invalid category to the Bush Black category.

3. The remaining switching operations were carried out either within the Invalid category, or by switching votes out of the Invalid category: 1.0 million from Invalid to White; 0.6 million from Black Invalid to White Invalid, and then 0.4 million of these from White Invalid to Bush White and 0.2 million from Black Invalid to Bush Black.

Note that the first, simpler switching operation could have been performed fairly easily in any voting district. However, the second and third procedures, which are far more complicated, could have been performed only where Republicans enjoy exclusive control of the election machinery under rules and procedures that they themselves crafted. "

Well, it's a theory...

[Melissa G]

10. I have to get back to you Indy.. I listened to the Cspan show

Took the 4 paragraph quote from the book that seemed the most similar to what i heard him say in the show and posted it. He went on for what seemed like 7-10 minutes. 4 paragraphs ain't gonna touch it.

Watch the show and see what you think. Wander over to your local bookstore and read the couple of chapters and see if it measures up to what you know and report back.

i have yet to read further but it sounded worth investing in so i did.

[Melissa G]

18. Hi Indy, see my post 17 and let me know what you think...n/t

[IndyOp]

12. The Harlem Book Fair is airing again now on C-SPAN 2 !! (n/t)

[Melissa G]

13. I 'm on dial up and I don't have cable so I don't have a chance to

catch this again...( I was at a friend's house the first time around) I'll be interested to see what you all think afterward...

edit to say, of course, as we go is also interesting...

[Melissa G]

14. Link for 1st 30 pages of book- very little election info here but there

is a table of contents..
http://www.sevenstories.com/html/custom/images/Robeson_A_Black_Way_Sample.pdf

CONTENTS

introduction
A Black Way of Seeing
1

chapter i
9/11 In Black and White
21

chapter ii
Eight Coups in American History
31

chapter iii
The “War on Terror”
53

chapter iv
Economics, Race, and Class
69

chapter v
Class Commands
83

chapter vi
Vote Fraud in 2000 and 2004
99

chapter vii
Awaiting the Fifth Revolution
113

vii
chapter viii
Black Destiny
153

appendix a
The Anatomy of Two Vote Frauds
187

appendix b
The Anatomy of the Switching Operation
195

Index
207

Thanks to eomer for the info!