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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 01:11 PM
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Gonna show my newbie ignorance
I am relatively new to the political arena, but wondering if California can have a recall election, can the U.S. have a recall election...or are we stuck with Hastert if we can bring these evil SOB's down?
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Bronco69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 01:13 PM
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1. I believe CA can have a recall election because it is written
into their constitution and the U.S. constitution has no such provision. If I'm wrong I'm sure someone will let me know. :-)
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 01:14 PM
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2. The succession is specified, alas, and recall elections are not
We'd be stuck with Hastert, who would undoubtedly rely on the same cadre of neocon advisors who are running the Bush junta.

The only thing that could save us would be action by the military, and I doubt that would be much of an improvement (although it would get fewer of us slaughtered in wars of convenience).
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 02:38 PM
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6. Surely, if we take B & C out, that would cast a big black shadow
over all those sob's
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mwm Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 01:18 PM
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3. No recall
There is no recall in the US Constitution. The only option is impeachment, and that requires that a crime must have been committed. But that is a large loophole, does jaywalking provide an excuse? But then it requires a vote by the House. So it is very unlikely.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 01:28 PM
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4. I know how you feel
I keep thinking all throughout the campaign that if we were allowed a ballot like the California recall ballot (the FIRST question would be YES or NO on BushCo, then the next would be a vote on his replacement), the outcome would've been VERY different. Even with Diebold making up votes, BushCo would've gone down hard.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 01:47 PM
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5. Better question: Does the State of Illinois have a recall provision?
Can a district's voters recall a Congressman? If that is the case, we might consider following the lead of outside money interests that helped fund the PR war against Davis in California. When Corporations want someone removed, they manage it. Seems THE PEOPLE ought to have the same opportunity! After all, they keep insisting we all have the opportunity to better oursleves... We can start by unloading that which holds us down.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 02:41 PM
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7. Don't know about Ill, but these do... Let's pick someone to oust..
Several western states — Arizona, Oregon, Idaho, Nevada and California — provide some provision for recalling state officials. But Hall said few recall elections are considered successful.
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,595061568,00.html

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 02:52 PM
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8. Yeah, but the whole nation is at risk with Hastert sitting second in line
to sit in the Oval Office should we manage to chase the chimp outta there. He is a tool and a patsy of the wingers and we should help arrange an early retirement from politics for the twerp.

Beyond that, I am all for targeting any/all bad politicains for recall and replacement. I LOVE it when the citizens remember that it is THEIR GOVERNMENT and fire those who fuck up.

Democracy is NOT a spectator sport. Works better when the people and their representatives keep that in mind!
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 03:53 PM
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9. Hey, he warned Chimp today not to change SS too much. n/t
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 10:59 PM
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10. The best result would be for C to resign...
W appoints who we want as VP and then resigns, he said, as if that would ever happen.

If they last unitl 2006, and we take over the house, that would work out then.

My fear is that rather than resignation, W figgers a way to LIHOP a suitcase nuke somewhere.

-Hoot

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