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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:18 AM
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Contact "Mosh" producers to get Eminem to create it live 1/20Kerry cries
Edited on Mon Jan-10-05 12:48 AM by helderheid
In his latest version of MOSH (YES there is a POST 11/2 version!!)

See it here
http://homepage.mac.com/duffyb/nobush/iMovieTheater250.html

You'll see Kerry and Edwards at the end crying with a sign saying "Count Every Vote".

Here is the contact info:

Producer, director, editor: Ian Inaba
www.gnn.tv

Art director: Anson Vogt
www.phong.com

Charachter animation: Haik Hoisington
www.blackmustache.com

Motion graphics: Steve Ogden
www.steved.tv

Eminem animation: Kevin Elam
www.kevinelam.com

After effector: Mark Nicola
www.kevinelam.com

GNN HAS A FORUM...


http://www.gnn.tv/forum/forums.php




Better contact info


Ian Inaba: http://www.gnn.tv/users/user.php?id=2

Anson Vogt: [email protected]

Haik Hoisington: [email protected]

Steve Ogden: [email protected]

Kevin Elam: k at kevinelam dot com (you know what to do)


CONTACT THEM and get them informed on election fraud. Let's see if they can contact Eminem about it as well and have him lead us all in our black hoodies on 1/20.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:27 AM
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1. c'mon
Edited on Mon Jan-10-05 12:48 AM by helderheid
Just watch it again and you won't ignore this thread:

http://homepage.mac.com/duffyb/nobush/iMovieTheater250.html

He can move the youth - hell he moved me. I'll be 30 this month. I am planning on showing it to my 60 year old mom. Made her cry when I described it to her.
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kcass1954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:33 AM
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4. Geez, I'm 50...
and not a fan of either him or rap in general. But I love that song and video!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:59 AM
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12. it's pretty inspiring
can you imagine a huge number in black hoodies on jan 20th?
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 03:48 PM
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51. ..
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 02:18 PM
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49. Grandma loves Eminem
I'm a 58-year-old grandma, and I LOVE Eminem, particularly this song. I wish there were more young artists getting political out there. Music is a very, very powerful force. The protest songs of the 60s and early 70s lifted our spirits and united us back in those dark days. Many of them resonate still, are just as applicable today as they were in 1969, but they may not speak to the younger people because they're "old," the music of their parents. It's encouraging to see a young artist like Eminem speaking to his generation about the injustice. Hopefully, he'll be an inspiration for more to follow.
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 09:06 PM
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53. LOL
:yourock:
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 10:59 PM
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57. Thank you, Mordarlar
I like to think I rock, too. :hippie:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:33 AM
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2. I just watched this again
and I am thinking rather than orange, black would be more approriate. Death of our democracy. Let's storm DC in black.
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 05:47 AM
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17. I really like black. Makes me think of Rebellion. It is SO SYMBOLIC
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:06 PM
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42. Just a thought...about black clothing...
Edited on Mon Jan-10-05 12:08 PM by TwoSparkles
Sometimes black connotes bad things--like evil, darkness, lack of hope, mystery.

I'm wondering if white hoodies would represent the cause better. After all, we are the current "angels of democracy." Angels wear white.

I'm wondering if black might reflect poorly on the movement? A sea of people in black clothing communicates: Fear, darkness, evil.

People probably wouldn't get the connection that you are representing the death of democracy.

After all--we're truly trying to return democracy. White symbolizes the hope, freedom and optimism that we all hope to restore to America.

Just a thought. I'm new here, so feel free to kick me to the curb.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 02:25 PM
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50. good point
and what about orange hoodies?
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roenyc Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 06:44 AM
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20. Black hoodies and and Orange ribbon!
This is Shady records. this is ems' his group is D12 and i guess this might be a source.
http://www.shadyrecords.com/
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 10:50 AM
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32. I like it
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:33 AM
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3. Anyone notice Dick Cheney collapsing of a Heart Attack at the end?
Twice, actually. It's in the part of the post-Election edit where Eminem and the people storm into the joint session of Congress. Look for the man clutching his chest near the podium and dropping to the floor. That's Cheney.

Clearly, Eminem is no fan of the Dark Lord.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:35 AM
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5. I think this link
was of the old video

here is a good one for the new one

I noticed the heart attack too

http://homepage.mac.com/duffyb/nobush/iMovieTheater250.html
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 09:26 AM
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25. Lynn Cheney has slammed Eminem
more than once. Eminem has made more than one reference to the Cheneys in lyrics/video.

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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 09:29 AM
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26. Eminem should SLAM her back!
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 09:32 AM
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28. Oh he has
Listen to "Without Me"

"I know that you got a job Ms. Cheney
but your husbands heart problem's complicating
So the FCC wont let me be or let me be me so let me see
they tried to shut me down on MTV but it feels so empty without me"
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 09:20 PM
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54. This song and video is genius
Go Eminem. You may say some mean shit but when you wanna make a statement you sure know how!
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:35 AM
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6. Awesome vid that brought tears to my eyes yet again.....
I'll e-mail and request.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:37 AM
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8. thanks
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 06:28 AM
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18. I actually linked from hilster's thread.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:36 AM
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7. That is a powerful video.
It really speaks to our current times.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:40 AM
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9. THE BEST
Edited on Mon Jan-10-05 12:49 AM by helderheid
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:46 AM
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10. Can it be available in Windows, or RealPlayer?
Don't have QuickTime.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:51 AM
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11. try this
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:00 AM
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13. That didn't work either.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:31 AM
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14. did this work?
Edited on Mon Jan-10-05 01:33 AM by helderheid
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 06:29 AM
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19. This is the original vote version. AWESOME!!!
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icehenge Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 03:07 AM
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15. Just emailed
Took me a few minutes to write out a nice email
explaining are cause and need to contact Eminem.

Make a note here if you email, to keep track.
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 05:45 AM
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16. More contact info....
Time to start writing again people : )


CONTACT EMINEM

Eminem
c/o Paul Rosenberg
Shady Goliath Records
270 Lafayette, Suite 805
New York, New York 10012
fx: 212-324-2415

CONTACT INTERSCOPE RECORDS

Jimmy Iovine
Interscope Records
10900 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 1230
Los Angeles, California 90024
fx: 310-865-7906

CONTACT MTV

Brian Graden
MTV
2600 Colorado Ave.
Santa Monica, CA 90404
Fax: 310-752-8102
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ChicanoPwr Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 08:01 AM
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21. I was able to talk to him.
During the 51 Capital March Rally last month, I went over to Eminem's blog and made a post. I really didn't think he would reply, but he did.

Xicano2872 registered: 11/21/2004 00:00 posts: 0
Eminem, Can you be a speaker on Dec 12 in Austin, TX
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Eminem, this is no joke. On Dec 12, Texas and the rest of the Nation will be marching on the State's capital. Here is the web site as proof.

http://www.51capitalmarch.com /

This morning, I received a email to be the lead for Texas. Our goal in Texas is to send a message to Bush, Tom Delay and the rest of the Evil Empire that Texas is not for sale and we Texans will take back this Great State of ours. I know you a very busy man. I chose you because after seeing your Mosh video you "have given me the hope and the strength" which inspired to take this lead. I am hoping you can do same for those us in Texas. I don't know if you are aware that Hispanics in Texas are the largest casualties of this unjust war or the raids the INS is another back-door draft for illegal immigrants. This has to stop. I hope you are able to attend.
posted: 12/4/2004 09:20 Reply | PM | Edit | IP

jacquiuk registered: 1/11/2004 00:00 posts: 8634
sorry i am prebooked for that day
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if you postpone it a week and a year...and then leave me your phone number in a PM i shall attend then

unless it is a short meeting and then i can make it within the next few weeks

we can arrange over the phone
posted: 12/4/2004 09:22
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When I wrote it, I was thinking about the youth movement also but I really wasn't thinking he would really respond. If I had know he would I would have provided more information. I suggest if anybody wanting to contact him, go to his blogsite at eminem.com.

I would also suggest providing him a little more evidence of the election fraud that happened through out the US and not only Ohio, I think he will be willing to help out.
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 08:06 AM
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22. Wow, thank you for that. We need to get together an info packet...
of the fraud for him.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 08:24 AM
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23. Good for you. I tried posting on his site for 12/4 Columbus Rally
but no one responded to my posting. We need to get youth involved. Look around at rallies, we are a little older than the youth who follow Eninem. I just bought his CD that contains MOSH. It is inspiring. I would love for him to take a stand for his country. Many of his followers are the ones dying in *'s unjust war for oil.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 08:52 AM
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24. Before 11/2 they were showing the video every morning
on MTV, my kids watch it. Then a few weeks later, they started showing the new one. Where are we supposed to ask him to perform it live?
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 09:31 AM
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27. the march on 1/20
kick for the mornin'!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 09:45 AM
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29. this is
terrific! Thanks so much! TO THE BLOG!

www.eminem.com !
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 09:53 AM
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30. did you mean the forum?
I didn't find a blog on that site but did find a forum. Is that what you meant?
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ChicanoPwr Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 11:32 AM
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38. Yes, sorry about that.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 11:41 AM
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39. no worries
just glad I posted to the right place. So far no replies though from anyone.
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ChicanoPwr Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:25 PM
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46. I PMed him
From what I gathered, the last time he was on it was 1/3/2005. I think he was at the People's Choice Awards.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:29 PM
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47. thank you!!
I hope something comes of this!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 10:10 AM
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31. what I posted and emailed
http://www.counter-inaugural.org/

How about a real live "MOSH" come to life, black hoodies and all?

Counter-Inaugural 2005
Bush Isn't Going Away and Neither Are We!
We cannot wait another 4 years to stand against the war and rampant social injustice of another Bush Administration. A coalition of social, political, and religious activists have come together to protest the coronation of George W. Bush. We invite you and all your friends and family to join hundreds of thousands in the streets of Washington, DC.

On November 2nd and 3rd as the votes were being counted residents of Washington DC took to the streets to show opposition to an inherently corrupt system, no matter who won the presidential election. Now the inauguration looms on the horizon and in DC where 91% voters rejected Bush energy is high to organize visible resistance to another 4 years of Bush through linking the national and even global struggle against the Bush regime to our local struggle for democracy here in the District. Come out and help shape this resistance!

Join us for a week of action January 15-Janurary 20, 2005. We're here to help plug you in to all the action.

_____

This election was STOLEN. There is proof of election fraud not only in Ohio but all over the country. The Ukraine got a new election after their exit polls didn't match - we can't even get an investigation when our exit polls showed Kerry winning in a landslide.

More info can be found here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=203

There is no Bush mandate. His votes were padded using electronic voting machines with "private" software and no paper trail owned by companies that donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to Bush/Cheney.

PLEASE Eminem, please help us get this word out!

Thank you!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 11:16 AM
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33. New version in larger format
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 11:18 AM
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34. REALLY GOOD CONTACT INFO!!!

CONTACT EMINEM

Eminem
c/o Paul Rosenberg
Shady Goliath Records
270 Lafayette, Suite 805
New York, New York 10012
fx: 212-324-2415

CONTACT INTERSCOPE RECORDS

Jimmy Iovine
Interscope Records
10900 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 1230
Los Angeles, California 90024
fx: 310-865-7906

CONTACT MTV

Brian Graden
MTV
2600 Colorado Ave.
Santa Monica, CA 90404
Fax: 310-752-8102
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 11:19 AM
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35. fantastic
I wish I had a fax!
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 11:21 AM
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36. I used the efax
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 11:23 AM
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37. Great! I'll try it too
Could you post what you faxed so we can get some ideas?
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 11:44 AM
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40. My letter
Edited on Mon Jan-10-05 11:49 AM by mordarlar
Mr. Mathers,

My name is Shannon. I am writing to plea with you. I feel a desperation. It is the desperation that only someone who has come through adversity can understand. It is a desperation i am sure you are feeling as well. I am a mother of three young girls. I am watching as my children's nation is being destroyed. There is a helplessness to this situation that i am unprepared for. Since childhood, in life when a battle arises i confront it and right it. The war we are facing now is larger than each of us as individuals. We are fighting a giant machine. We need to disable it. We cannot do this divided. And we are divided. There are countless groups with no unified goal. The right hand does not know what the left hand is doing. Wars cannot be fought this way. This is certainly not the way the Bush machine works. Their unity is thier strength. Their unified voice, soul and mind. A hive mentality with a unified goal of self progression and destruction. They are mutating our constitution to serve their own image. We need to restore our power as a people before the only option left available to us is by blood. Everyday i spend countless hours searching, countering, writing and analyzing. I cannot sleep.

I want to ask you to make a call to action. You have the influance and the fearlessness to unite groups in this cause. We need to MOSH the SOB. I am a member of the Democratic Underground. We took action along with other groups and sent tens of thousands of letters to our Congressmen. It succeeded. But it was simply the first battle in the war. The media has blacked out any truth about this cause. We need to make it heard far and wide. I can think of NOBODY to do this as well as you. It comes to a point where we must admit, if we are not fighting the problem, we are part of it.

We have seen something in you that we recognise in ourselves. There is a fight inside that knows truth. A fight that realizes without a battle for good, the victimizers takes over and feeds off of people's pain, grief and suffering. Weakening people so grievously that they forget how to fight. Those of us that, by God's grace, were able to somehow rise above this destruction can clearly see the rape that is going on now.

We are obligated to do this for the people we love. My younger brother, a fan of yours, had joined the military to protect our nation. He was 19. Completely healthy when he joined. They injected him with an experimental vaccine. He began to have siezures. They took a year and a half of his life away from him while they studied him, only to determine, the problem was not theirs. Medical discharge. They refuse to provide medical. He is bound to a lifetime of expensive meds to try and keep it stable. We did not have him with us this Christmas. Two grand mol siezures the day before left him too weak to attend. They destroyed his health. His future could be very dim. With grave debt, from medical care, and unable to hold a job, he has lost hope. He knows what this vaccine has caused in others. Birth defects of thier children, blood clots on their brains and hearts, cancer, lifetime pain and weakness. The military knows that 30 to 80% of people have experienced these side affects. They are tryin to reinact mandatory vaccinizations again. We have to fight them now. They are destroying the youth of our nation. Our only hope for the future. It will not be long before your daughter and mine will be of this same age.

Bush thinks he has four years to finish what he has started.

I read an interesting paper recently (see link below, if you're interested in reading it in full), comparing the fascist regimes of several countries: Germany under the Nazis, Fascist Italy, Spain under Franco, Salazar's Portugal, Papadopoulos's Greece, Pinochet's Chile, and Suharto's Indonesia. The author found several things in common between each of these regimes:

1. An extreme nationalism, expressed by waving of flags, a near obsession (by politicians and by the populace) to show one's patriotism, an expressed desire for unity, extreme pride in the military, and xenophobia.

2. A view that human rights should take a back seat to the goals of the ruling elite. Those whose rights were being trampled were marginalized and/or demonized in the media, so that the populace could get used to "those people" being abused. When abuse became rampant, extreme secrecy was employed.

3. The use of designated scapegoats to deflect the populace's attention from other problems and issues. Relentless propaganda and disinformation were extremely effective in keeping the people's attention focused where the leaders wanted it focused: on those demonized "others".

4. Avid militarism, with a disproportionate share of government money going to support the war machine.

5. A controlled mass media.

6. Obsession withnational security. Even the most heinous acts were excused under the banner of "national security". Questioning the leaders' doings would lead to being branded as unpatriotic, perhaps even traitorous.

7. The predominant religion of the region becomes tied to the ruling elite.

8. Power of corporations was protected, even while ordinary citizents steadily lost more and more of their rights.

9. A general disdain of, and even suppression of, intellectualism and the arts.

This is meant to be only a brief summary of some of the points that were mentioned in the paper; more details and several more points are mentioned much more clearly than I can hope to in this brief post. Here is one of the many sites where you can read the entire text:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4113.htm

With the destruction of the filibuster planned and the "nuclear option" in the fraudulant majority in the Senate, we will at some point have no power but through blood to stop them. So again i offer you a plea, call for action. Stand with us. We cannot afford to wait. The time is RIGHT NOW. I welcome you to the Democratic Underground. Will Pitt, from Truthout, along with countless other brilliant people there, have worked tirelessly to bring to light the fraud used to steal this election. The proof is undenyable.

God bless you for the great things you have done. There are children across this nation who, through your music, feel they can make it and know that they are not alone. I wish i had words to thank you for this. Shannon
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:14 PM
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43. all I can say
is WOW. That is an excellent letter.

I am so concerned for my children. I have a 4 year old son and 2 year old daughter and I want for them a real future.

I am so sorry about your brother. That gave me chills.

OK, I need to work on a letter and I'll efax it out. Thank you so much Shannon!
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:15 PM
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44. Thank you
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 11:59 AM
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41. "Mr. President, Mr. Senator, you're our hero...
I can't tell if he's saying hero or heroes at the end when Kerry and Edwards are crying. Is he saying that Kerry is the real president and he and Edwards are our heroes? Or is he saying Kerry (mr. senator) you're our hero?
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:17 PM
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45. I'll have to watch it again
and listen for that. I'm not sure - I get the idea he believes Kerry/Edwards won.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:53 PM
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48. I heard
a little kid say "can they hear us" not hero - anyone else?
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 04:02 PM
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52. It says,
Edited on Mon Jan-10-05 04:03 PM by ohio_liberal
Mr President, Mr Senator, can you guys hear us?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 10:07 PM
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56. It sounded to me like
"Mr. President...Mr. Senator... can you hear us?"
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 10:06 PM
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55. I finally got this sucker to download fully .last night
I didn't notice the sign saying "count every vote"

Don't tell me I'm going to have to try and download it AGAIN! (sob!)

I did think I saw Kusinich at the end clapping, Cheney keeling over, the majority leaders taking a step back, and K/E at the end.

My favorite part is when Eminem takes off the hoodie and he has a suit on underneath. That touch added the correct amount of dignity to what he was saying. I also esp. like his emphasis on the soldier's and the minority voice. He made voting look so revolutionary in the first version. And I love the message of the second, which is to make our voices heard in Congress. Very encouraging.

I really hope Marshall continues on these more mature themes. I was quite impressed. But then I know underneath that abrasive exterior is a man who is very responsible re: his daughter and the other young people in his life that he has custody for.

I'm 41, by the way, but with an open mind.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 11:14 PM
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58. the democrat equivalent to kid rock
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