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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 07:50 PM
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Today's corporate media response proves my point: Media....
Diversity is every bit as important as election reform. The way the corporate media is reporting this so far, we were just a few troublemakers making cranky problems for the nation. I honestly do not think that any significant liberal/progressive agenda will ever be enacted without more media diversity. Yes, we need HONEST elections but we also need adequately informed voters to vote in them. Think about this bad scenario: the corporate media can paint election reform as more "sore loser" tactics by the Democrats and besides, why spend money on elections that could go to Iraq or the "war on terror" ? I think the corporate media will just do all they can to squash any good publicity about election reform.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 07:53 PM
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1. When does Al Gore's InDTV go live?
We need our own version of Faux in order for media OVERALL to be "fair and balanced."
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 07:54 PM
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3. Now and InDTV...plus AAR...we're making progress.
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 07:54 PM by Goldeneye
do we have a majority of the blogs?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 09:29 PM
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26. Blogs.
It's difficult to count whether there are more liberal or conservative blogs.

The most popular blog, though, is the liberal
www.dailykos.com

(Unless one considers "Drudge Report" as a blog, which I don't. I consider Drudge a news-portal.)

I did a blog article in which I talk about Kos of "The Daily Kos" and myself:

http://www.moveleft.com/moveleft_essay_2004_12_18_liberal_blogger_kos_of_the_daily_kos_once_republican.asp
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:42 PM
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44. kick nt
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:10 AM
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34. Article on Gore INdTV in January 4 Washington Post article
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45826-2005Jan3.html

Al Gore's INdTV: The People's Programmer

By Richard Leiby

Tuesday, January 4, 2005; Page C03

Tuning in to Gore TV: Little is publicly known about the cable news network planned by almost-president Al Gore except that it will be called INdTV (say it like "indie"), aims to wow the youth market, has set up shop in San Francisco and is supposed to launch this year. But what kind of shows will it carry?

We've received a glimpse of some of the programming envisioned by INdTV execs, who just sent out an e-mail to prospective "digital correspondents," seeking edgy video submissions to serve as pilots. Gore's programming gurus say they hope to "democratize television" by relying on Generation Y contributors and "real-life video." An insider cautioned us yesterday that the e-mail represents just a sliver of the conceptual pie, but the potential must-see lineup includes:

• "That's F*&#ed Up: Is there something unfathomable going on around the corner or down the street? Some state of affairs that just doesn't make sense? You can rant all you want -- it just better be good TV."

• "INdTV Paparazzi: Get someone famous to opine on something substantive. ('Hey Paris -- what did you think of Rumsfeld's quote on the armored Humvee shortage in Iraq?') Or, ask a serious figure about something not-so-substantive. Note: Don't be a stalker."

<>The cable channel, which Gore and his investors reportedly acquired last year for $70 million, isn't paying contributors unless it accepts their one-to-five-minute segments for use in an industry preview. In that case, INdTV will pony up $200, which grants it the right to use the video "in all markets and media . . . throughout the universe, in perpetuity," according to a contract sent to contributors.

_____________________

Sounds like INdTV taking advantage of these contributors--$200 per segment for use in perpetuity? WTF is that?
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 07:53 PM
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2. I just don't understand (I really do understand, but bear with me)
how they can not report on something that has only happened twice before in American history. How many americans have absolutely no idea what happened today? A lot of them for sure. The media isn't doing its job. How do we take the media back. Are there any books?
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 07:56 PM
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7. it takes mucho $$$$$, for starters. Takes big time investors nt
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:01 AM
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32. It shouldn't take any money at all. We own the airwaves
our government allows corporations to use them for free. They pay little or no fees to us for the use of our airwaves. If they had to pay us for this use we would be rich and could air anything we wanted to. We need to take bake OUR airwaves and demand payment and a network of our own, a REAL public broadcast that is fully funded by the users of our property.
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icehenge Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 09:22 PM
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24. I for one would like to know what I can do also.
I've been flipping around the TV and I saw mention on
the PBS news hour. They showed Stephanie tubbs Jones speaking
out and then ran an equal time clip for a Republican challenge
speaker. And then Lear the host said another sentence to the
tone of, the challenge had no effect.

The entire segment on the challege must have been 1 minute.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 07:54 PM
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4. I agree with you.
If the media people were up in arms about this election, so would be the populace.

The media gets to manipulate. They stress subjects to make them seem important. They downplay subjects to make them seem trivial. It works.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 07:55 PM
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5. I agree! My next project after this election is to work on
holding FOX and Sinclair responsible for their lies and biased reporting. I am closing my business of 17 years to confront this problem.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:43 PM
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17. you go ! nt
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icehenge Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 09:24 PM
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25. Best wishes ,nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 07:55 PM
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6. We should repost this one every day. Of course. n/t
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 07:56 PM
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8. Online is the where it's at. Support the alternative online media.
Forget MSM
Boycott their advertisers
Buy stuff from the online media
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 07:58 PM
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10. I agree. I do think, though, that most voters go to TV for their news
nt
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 07:57 PM
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9. See 'Outfoxed' - moveon.org. Also, support http://mediamatters.org
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 07:58 PM by FreepFryer
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:01 PM
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11. Yes and AlterNet and CommonDreams
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:33 PM
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12. self-kick, this is damn important nt
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:37 PM
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13. I think you're right - but looking for a bright side
I do think the power of the internet as a news source is growing exponentially. At least for now, this leaves the possibility for news to be spread even when the MSM refuses to report.

Think about 10 years ago -- even a highly committed group of citizens would never have been able to accomplish all that really has been accomplished this year and last due to the uniting power of a site like this, or organizations like Moveon.org. It's like a nation-wide town meeting... Places like DU are becoming accepted as the norm and read by a wide variety of people. All to the good.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:42 PM
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16. you make good points, and I hope the trend continues. Thanks ! nt
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:40 PM
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14. In the meantime we can use guerilla marketing...
With a can of 3M Super 77 spray adhesive and a trip to kinkos, you can be the media...

go to http://somnamblst.tripod.com to download high res files













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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:41 PM
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15. We need new media and new government...it's all broken n/t
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 08:41 PM by truthpusher
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:45 PM
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19. JUst checked my inbox for breaking CNN news.
The murder conviction in Texas rated breaking news but not Boxer!
Go figure! George Soros fixing the media is your new job!
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Not a Sheep Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:44 PM
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18. Excellent points /eom
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:47 PM
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20. so-- How much money does one need to become a media player?
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:52 PM
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21. many millions of $, I am sure nt
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 09:08 PM
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22. And how many MILLIONS did we donate to Kerry?
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 09:17 PM
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23. If we knew then what we now now...
some type of media for getting our message out would have been a much better investment. I gave him hundreds that I feel might as well have been flushed down the toilet!
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 09:35 PM
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28. Easy ways to promote "Air America Radio"
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Beth in VT Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 09:34 PM
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27. CNN deserves strokes
for getting rid of Tucker Carlson and wanting to change their format/tone.

We all should give them positive feedback.
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 10:45 PM
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30. Not until they fire Novak, Douchebag for Liberty! n/t
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:06 AM
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37. CNN's lead headline yesterday:
Andrea Yates.


They are going to cover more celebrity murder, more sex, more diet fads, more cultural pablum. They are going to get rid of anything that resembles political commentary, no matter how banal and centrist and bogus that commentary is. It will faux-news without the rightwingnut hate speech.

I'm so glad I never watch any of that shit.
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trudyco Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 10:15 PM
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29. Well you could probably start with a daily or weekly show
on Links or Freespeechtv. I also think a news portal would be nice - the alt stuff I've seen online is kind of thin.

The thing with DU is that blogging is such a free-for-all that it takes up a tremendous amount of time. Plus most voters aren't in the blogosphere.

Heck, I've even dreamed of asking the alt news around the country to be able to take their best article and put it together in a weekly or something (if they didn't charge too much). I thought maybe the Nation would be like that but it doesn't come out often enough and the way they handled the fraud/suppresion issue was disappointing to put it mildly.

Maybe this is the next thing we push our congresspeople and liberal political groups on????

I feel like Paul Revere drove through every town in the USA today saying "the British are coming" and the Wall Street Journal thought it appropriate to bury the news on their online news in the political section and calling it "partisan".

ON a side note, I sure was disappointed in the republicans today. Doesn't seem like there are any moderates or patriotic repub politicos left.

trudyco
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 07:54 AM
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31.  self-kick, this is important
and also my 1000th post !!!!!!!!! yahoo !
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WritersBlock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:04 AM
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33. Congrats on your 1000th post, and
would like to say that I agree with you completely.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:14 AM
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35. The Five Pillars
I see five factors necessary to "secure the blessings of liberty."

1. Diverse media outlets that disseminate varied, independent views.
2. Verifiable elections that promote confidence in same.
3. Clean elections, from which money and its influence are banned.
4. A strong defense, adequately compensating service members.
5. Strong Constitutional protection of basic liberties.

Democracy is like a five-legged table: ugly, but very stable. :7
Lose any one of these, and democracy may still lumber along. We're losing, or have already lost, four of them--and I'm not so sure about that strong defense anymore, seeing it squandered in Imperial aggression.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:57 AM
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36. 0-5
As I thought about yesterday's media lockout and the farce of the november selection and kerry's obvious complicity, I had to accept the reality: we do not have a republic. We now live in a one-party corporatist state, fascist-lite if you will, as the charade of a democratic republic is maintained, but there was a coup in 2000 and the republic ended four years ago.

I wonder how Barbara Boxer feels today? A bit isolated?

All we have left is our ability to expose reality at every opportunity.
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:25 AM
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38. Washington post today
Front page, nope, not there
second page, nope not there
third page, nope needed that for an article on the adult video awards ceremony.
4th page, yes there it is finally.
What a rag the post(I use a small p intentionally) has become.
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trudyco Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 06:09 PM
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39. So how did the MSM cover it? --nt
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 09:18 AM
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40. kick nt
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 09:42 AM
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41. excellent, crucial point, steve. thank you for posting. n/t
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eomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 09:44 AM
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42. We should all become evangelists for alternate media
Prior to November I was a daily CNN viewer and newspaper reader. The outrage I feel over this election is directed almost as much at the MSM as it is at the actual thieves. I've stopped watching the cable news channels almost entirely and only glance at the paper occasionally. Instead I now get my news from this forum and various online sources, some of them blogs, some of them online newspapers.

Besides switching my own habits, I'm also working on those around me by pointing out individual cases where the MSM misreported or failed to report important stories. I'm hoping I can help someone else have the same epiphany that I did when I discovered they've been lying to us.

The Internet has the potential to blow away TV, newspapers and magazines as everyone's primary source of news. After all, many people can check the news on the Internet from their desk at work at times when they could not be seen reading a newspaper or magazine.

And the Internet is not, so far at least, monopolized by corporate interests like the other media are.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 09:45 AM
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43. We MUST build a new TV news network
come join http://mediadiversity.blogspot.com and help me.
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