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ciaobox Donating Member (796 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:22 PM
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Florida still unknown! URGENT! Kerry can concede but we don't have to...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/3/52213/1921

Can someone PLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEASE get this to Randi Rodes and/or JK camp and /or Dem leadership?

2000 2004
Bush 2,912,790 Bush 3,836,216
Gore 2,912,253 Kerry 3,459,293
Nader 97,421 Nader 32,035
Other 40,193 Other 28,382
= 7,355,296 (2004) - 5,963,657 (2000) = 1,392,639 new voters (99% precincts counted, no provisionals or absentees).

So, we have 1.39 million new voters, and Kerry loses by 376,923 votes? Thus, he lost an overwhelming majoirty of them, or he lost an overwhelming majority of regular voters - much, much more than Gore lost.

We have 77,197 fewer third party votes, but Kerry loses the vast majority of these?

Exit polling numbers show that Kerry had more Hispanic and Cuban support than Gore did, and Kerry lost?

Most exit polls in Florida showed Kerry leading, yet he loses by a massive 5%?

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batchdem04 Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:25 PM
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1. i just wrote about this!

DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THE CBS EXIT POLL SAYING NEW VOTERS WENT TO KERRY???
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ciaobox Donating Member (796 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:25 PM
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2. Sorry for repost
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batchdem04 Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:26 PM
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4. its ok...
i just want to know what that poll was....
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MsUnderstood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:26 PM
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3. ummm I t hink the tinfoil hat forum is down the hall to the right
Seriously, we aren't going to win by trying a numbers game. If there was fraud, nobody cares (if they cared, they would have fixed it after 2000)
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Kipepeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:26 PM
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5. Something stinks in Florida
even more than in Ohio
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Pig_Latin_Lover Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:27 PM
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6. No paper trail, no evidence.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:27 PM
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7. Hispanics voted Bush
Something like 40%. I don't know why they did, but they did.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:30 PM
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8. that means 60% voted Kerry, doesn't it.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:59 PM
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9. Okay, here's the story from Florida
I worked in the campaign..you have no idea how many volunteers REALLY
WORKED . worked our buns off.

We didn't have exit polls in places where they should have been.

Broward County including Hispanics went 85% for Kerry

Palm Beach County despite Rabbis and Ministers telling their congregations to vote for BUsh went heavily black, Haitian and Jewish
for Kerry - and I mean heavily.

I was poll watcher at a mostly Haitian site where there were threee precincts and 8 machines.

one machine was broken slowing down voting in that precinct to 2 1/2 hour wait.

And leaving 7 machines for three districts.

Inside poll watcher came out to tell me that in his district, 800 people, everyone standing on line was holding or at the machines using the blue color DEM palm ticket I had given them outside. He was thrilled.

the week before I had handed out about 1500 of these palm tickets in
a Jewish area. They came and asked for them.

Every Haitian or African American that went into vote stopped and took a DEM voting/palm ticket at the polls....I'd say about 2500 to 2700 for the entire three districts.We had to photocopy more because we didn't have enough for the demand.

During early voting, when you heard there were 3 hour waits, there were; I handed out the same palm tickets in Palm Beach. 99% of the people going into those polls - hundreds and hundreds, stopped and took the dem palm ticket from me. Hardly any republicans in either place.

Electronic machines, no paper trail.

Early voting in several counties in North Florida also went Kerry (unusual).

60,000 ballots lost in post office. Voting day, thousands arrived at the PO to be sent to absentee voters. Of course they would never arrive in time for voting. These were for shut ins, out of staters etc.

Theresa LePore threw out 14,000 applications for voting early on.

We took Palm Beach County by a landslide. But there was one very very suspicious thing. I was assigned to a "targeted" area. Targeted because it's targeted by the repugnants to stop the black people from voting...

Where at the early voting republican poll watchers had been outside harrassing Kerry poll watchers....ON VOTING DAY THERE WERE NO REPUBLICAN POLL WORKERS OUTSIDE THE TARGETED AREAS. I mentioned this to others, wondering what was up. It was highly unusual that not one was there.

Polls stayed open til 7 and as I mentioned it was one wonderful stream of people of color voting, and voting, and young black hip hop guys too, who you wouldn't think would. They did.
you tell me what happened.

At 6 PM with one hour to go of voting, the word was FIRST passed down to us that the electronic machines were not always recording what the people were voting and to be sure to tell them to check the final summary page, showing your choices. A little late, eh what?

Better yet, ask Bev Harriss " Black Box Voting" what happened.

But worst of all Kerry didn't wait for all the military and absentee ballots to be counted - he should have waited 11 days. He was only 2 electoral votes behind the bastid.

Didn't want to divide the country anymore???????

Bullshit. It couldnt be any more divided. He needed to fight for us,
but he did the exact same thing Gore did. Layed down and rolled over.

What are the Gestapo threatening them with? blackmail ? Harm to Family? Doesn't make sense.

He said he would fight and he didn't . He said he had 10,000 lawyers (and believe me, a lot of them were down here, and he didnt use them
to mount legal challenges.

IMHO Voting is now a sham. Democracy in this country is over.


I'm renewing my passport.
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