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ParkieDem Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:24 AM
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Why Texas is doing so much better economically than the rest of the nation
Saw this in Slate today:

http://www.slate.com/id/2250999/

Got to admit I like the Longhorn logo, it's a nice touch. What do you guys think about this? One one hand, they say that Texas avoided a major housing crisis because it didn't allow home equity loans until quite recently (i.e., regulation protected us). On the other hand, they say that deregulation and globalization helped us in the energy markets and in manufacturing.

I thought this was an interesting piece -- thoughts?
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 12:00 PM
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1. Hot damn we are a player in the global economy
My take on this is location, location, location plus size. Texas is pretty damn big. We're about 3-4 average states combined. So some regions of our state have very high unemployment (the Rio Grande Valley) but the urban areas are still thriving so overall our statewide rate is low. It's a mixed bag there. We're not doing what we need to do in the RGV but we can skate nationally by just using the state average. So companies and people are convinced that Texas is the future - the new, new west! Come to Texas and grab a piece of it now!

When the economy was booming (the fake risky financial market boom based on sub-prime lending) companies were expanding and home construction was up everywhere. One of the biggest engines of that boom was cheap labor. Since we're right on that border with Mexico we had those gates wide open. Republicans don't like to admit it and businesses won't admit it publicly, but that cheap Mexican labor built wide swaths of Texas real estate construction. And still maintain lawns for a huge chunk of it even today.

I don't think Texas is going to get stupid like Arizona. Oh there will be talk about getting tough and the wing nuts will still try to blame immigrants for everything from polio to declining schools, but in Texas "bidness" is king. Truth be told "bidness" likes cheap labor, so those kinds of bills are going nowhere in the Lege. They're just a bunch of hot air for the rabid wing nut base.

On the home equity loan business. Yeah I like that - regulation continues to protect Texans from unscrupulous lenders. If it was up to the Rs and the business community it would have been a free for all. The good thing about Texas constitution is that kind of change requires approval by the voters of Texas. And voters aren't that keen in trusting bankers. :)

I do find a lot of comfort in the renewable energy engine to generate more job growth for Texas. We could still do better. We are losing green jobs to other states who are trying to get ahead of us are are in some cases. And it's not just wind energy we should cheer for. Solar energy should absolutely be a lynch pin of the south. We've been hotter than hell for decades now, why not get some economic benefit from it. The Rs in the Lege are being far too cautious and slow on moving forward on this front because they are still too beholden to the energy companies and big oil. The electric power companies want to keep generating power from cheap coal - damn our environment. And the state is doing little to factor in the "real cost" to the state of pollution costs. There are health care costs as well as environmental clean up costs that the state is just ignoring for the sake of "bidness".

It's great to have a new influx of people into the state from other areas of the country. Hopefully that will move us more toward blue. We're already purple and with Perry talking secessionist nonsense, it can only help to bring in more moderates.

My real concern is how badly we are ignoring our education system and how that time-bomb has been ticking for decades and Perry and his R controlled Lege is doing very little to fix it. They are purposefully keeping wages low for business. They aren't seeing the long term picture. Students in our public schools are already majority minority populace. In some urban districts 70% of elementary classes are minority students. And our drop out rate is at least 30% and maybe as high as 50%. Don't buy the bullshit Perry says about it being only 10%.

We're a very large state and the absolute worst thing to be is a large state that is uneducated, because that means your tax base is not going to support your needs. When two thirds of your citizens are only going to be making minimum wage, your state is is headed for a huge financial crisis.
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onestepforward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 02:51 PM
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3. I don't think Texas will go the way of Arizona either,
although the potential for stupid is there. I was curious about the percentage of Latinos in both states. Arizona is 29% and Texas is 35.5% Latino. It would definitely be more risk politically to try and pull off anti-immigration legislation here in Texas. I'm still surprised that Arizona is trying to with 29%:shrug:

I hope our Latino brothers and sisters are watching this closely and will be more motivated to vote! :patriot:
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:08 PM
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5. Arizona and Oklahoma
Are both cutting off their economic engine to stick their haughty "anti-immigration" noses in the air. Bring it idiots! Those jobs and more money will move to Texas. We'll compare economies again in a year and see who won. :crazy:

I agree with you about the voting. Those percentages are nothing to laugh about, they could easily swing the states to blue.

I am hoping that the Nazi immigration hating tactics in Arizona do bring the kind of blow back the Prop 187 effect in California. Please, please make it so!
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cfsteak Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 01:19 AM
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2. Corporate Welfare State
Yep plus we run a great corporate welfare state, corporate relocations to the state are a BIG deal, we have low taxes and with cities bidding against each other for these relocations, companies end up with giant tax abatements, the city gets some tax income from part of the state sales tax and business personal property tax, the companies get their subsidies, and it brings in new blood for our housing markets

I sat in a city council meeting last night where they city did a great thing by helping out a social service outfit with their rent, but then while the council members were congratulating themselves 2 mentioned they liked the fact that the operation didn't offer steady state service, welfare, while weeks ago the gave a semiconductor cooperation a 500 million BPP tax abatement on equipment they bought for a building that also got massive tax abatements 4 or 5 years ago that sat empty until this year, Big business ex retail get this treatment all the time but it's not considered welfare

The taxes these corporations bring in really help keep residential P tax down, this is the only place I've seen where trickle down actually works, but something about it creeps me out.


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onestepforward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:01 PM
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4. Energy is the key.
One of my biggest dreams for Texas is to be the leader in renewable energy and with real leadership, we still could.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 06:18 PM
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6. I don't know how they define "recently," but we had a home equity loan in TX at least 10 yrs ago. nt
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 06:26 PM
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7. Home equity loans have been legal in Texas for a while
Edited on Wed Apr-21-10 06:26 PM by sonias
The restrictions are how much you can borrow against your equity or value of your home. The rules are 80%.

www.occc.state.tx.us/pages/brochures/HomeEq.pdf
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 06:22 PM
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8. Ah. I had not realized that,
as the house we had the loan on was paid off (well, until we got the loan). I dunno what I think about that, not that anybody asked me. My first reaction is that it should be the same as what you can get a first mortgage for, and I *know* you don't have to have 20% down for that.
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ParkieDem Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 03:22 PM
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9. I can remember
When there was the big advertising push for home equity loans in Texas. I think it was about 1996 or 1997. At the time, Texas was the only state that did now allow homeowners to borrow against their equity.

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blizzil31337 Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 05:09 AM
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10. poverty rate and republican corruption plagues us
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 09:40 AM
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11. Yes it does
We need new leadership - a change of direction. I'm hoping we get one in November.

We can't wait to start dealing with these problems of an uneducated work force.

Welcome to DU blizz! :hi:
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