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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:40 AM
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Poll question: Native or no?
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 01:42 AM by Sapphocrat
Just curious about the makeup of DUers currently living in California:
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:59 AM
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1. Whenever I hear people discussing "native" versus "non" in California. . .
I'm reminded of the opening scene in the 1939 film version of The Hunchback of Notre Dame.

A French sentry stops a Gypsy family as they try to enter Paris.

"Hey, you, only native Parisians allowed here!"

"Oh," says the Gypsy, "and how long have you been here?"

"My family has lived in Paris for 300 years!" the sentry loudly proclaims.

"Eh," comes the reply. "You came yesterday, I come today."
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 02:12 AM
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2. Heh...
I like that -- haven't seen that version in eons. It's the best one, IMNSHO. :)
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 05:19 AM
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3. On a technical......
My mailing and voting address is still in California, even though I'm overseas in Doha at the moment.

By birth, I'm a 5th generation native. My daughter is a 6th generation native. :-)
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:28 PM
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4. Native Second Generation.
On my Mom's side that is.

My dad was born in OK and moved to California when he was a little boy.

His parents were born in Texas (Mom) and Arkansas (Dad).

Both my mom's parents were born in Oklahoma.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:26 PM
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5. I used to brag until I met my wife.
Much of her dad's family got here before Adam and Eve were booted out of the Garden.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 10:28 AM
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18. Good one!
Mine is "our people met our people at Plymouth Rock". (Chilton)

As far as California goes, I'm third generation on my father's side, first on my mother's. I was born in Long Beach, CA and I've never lived more than 20 miles from the hospital where I was born. My oldest son was third generation attending his elementary school.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 04:17 PM
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6. Arrived in SF June '67 ( summer of Love)
New Yorker to the bone since the 1600's
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 05:25 PM
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7. I enjoy hearing these ancestral snippets. :)
A poll is awfully black and white, so it's neat to hear how we all ended up here.

As for me, the earliest any of my family arrived on U.S. soil (mostly from Italy; one from Portugal) was about 1900 -- so I still think of us as "last wave" Ellis Island immigrants, pretty fresh off the boat... and worthy of a Martin Scorcese movie.
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SteveIrving1 Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:46 PM
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8. Third generation
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 04:29 PM
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9. Moved here in 1980 at age 24.
And have been here ever since.
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mulsh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 06:40 PM
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10. 3rd generation Californian
my song writing partner who is 5th generation Californian on both sides of his family taught me their family prayer, usefull on holidays " May the rest of the country fall into the Atlantic ocean. Amen"
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 08:28 PM
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11. Yes, there is "other"
I came to California as an adult but had to move out because of changes in jobs. As Spouse, though, is native, first generation.

As you can tell, I still keep up with events in the state.
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Oerdin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 10:41 PM
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12. 2nd generation
Or third depends how you count it. Both of my parents grew up hear while my mother's parents moved from Chicago in 1945 and my father's parents moved here in 1946 (from Scotland). Girlfriend's family is from NorCal and been here since the 1870's or so.
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mojavekid Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 01:32 AM
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13. My Father's Grandparents came to L.A. in 1880,
from Chicago. His mother would take in homeless Chumash, most of them lonely and drunks, and give them a bed and meals, and keep them busy around the house and yard...
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Momgonepostal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 12:59 PM
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14. I'm a 4th generation, my husband a 5th
We both have ancestors who were born here in the 1860's. My immigrant ancestors who moved to CA were from England, Scotland, Ireland (via Canada) and Prussia.
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haele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 01:05 PM
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15. Second Generation -
Edited on Sat Dec-10-05 01:09 PM by haele
Both sets of grandparents ended up in the LA area during the early 1930's. Mom and Dad, both born in LA County, eventually moved to Seattle when I was 10 due to Governor Reagan's cutting of the state schools. I joined the Navy when I was 17, ended up pretty much stationed out of California (Vallejo, Port Hueneme, and of course, San Diego)after bootcamp, retired and settled down to raise a transplanted family from Alabama InSaneDiego as an evil contractor.

My folks moved to Albuquerque after selling their house in Seattle last year. They can't stand what California has become, how "plastic" it is - it's definitely not the same as it was in their youth.

I pretty much consider myself a native...

Haele
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:33 PM
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16. Family moved here when I was
eighteen months old. Even so I consider myself a native from acculturation.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 12:33 AM
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17. second generation, but hubby's been here since the mission trail...
and beyond B-)
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 03:22 AM
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19. I chose your next-to-last option.
I left my heart...
when I left my home and my family...
all the leaves are brown...
it never rains...

etc.

IOW - first generation, moved 5 years ago to Maryland. I love where I live, but :cry: do I miss home.

:hi: Sappho
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puerco-bellies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 04:05 PM
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20. 4th generation
Both sets of great grandparents moved here from New Mexico
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 09:09 PM
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21. Came here from New England in '81 - "for the winter" - never went back.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 12:28 AM
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22. second generation
Great-great grandfather came from Germany in 1851, settled in northern Kansas. Great-grandfather moved the family to California in 1908, to Patterson. My grandfather was a graduate of Patterson High School. The family eventually moved to the Redding area and had a farm there for many years. I still live in NorCal. Rest of the ancestors are from various places, including Norway, England, Switzerland and France.
Hubby is third generation in CA, his family came from Ireland.
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