There's something wrong with Bush

[realFedUp]

Yeah, yeah...we all know that, but while
many of us think he's basically a conniving
son-of-a-bitch who has no boundaries, couth
or diplomatic skills....there's
something wrong with him. I mean mentally.

No one acts like he acted last night without
a good reason. If he's drinking again or
still doing drugs, that could be understandable...
maybe we should know if our leader and thief
is still an abuser before he hurts this
country and people even further.

Don't reply duh to this post please. It
was posted with great concern.

[Bonhomme Richard]

1. Didn't he cancel his physical until......................

after the election? I thought that is what I heard.

[realFedUp]

9. Fear of flying disease....

What was that Erika Jong book....

Bush needs grounding now.

[Warpy]

11. Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome

http://www.healthcentral.com/mhc/top/000771.cfm

[rocktivity]

22. Narcissistic Personality Disorder

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by...(at least)...five...of the following:

1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

4. requires excessive admiration

5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

6. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends

7. lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others

8. is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her

9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

You need five symptoms to qualify? The eighth one is the ONLY one that I don't feel applies to Bush!

link

:headbang:
rocknation

[autorank]

33. Rokcknation! You rock! Think you're close.

Take this one and add in Anti Social Personality Disorder and voila!

[sofa king]

39. "They are jealous of our freedom."

That wraps up the list, doesn't it?

If you'd like to further nail it down check out this page:

http://www.bullyonline.org/workbully/npd.htm

Often the narcissist will fraudulently claim to have qualifications or experience or affiliations or associations which they don't have or aren't entitled to.

...insisting on having the "top" professionals or being affiliated with the "best" institutions, but criticising the same people who disappoint them are also common features of narcissistic personality disorder.

Greed, expecting to receive before and above the needs of others... abusing special privileges and squandering extra resources also feature.

I'm wondering if the Kerry team used that diagnosis against the President on Thursday night.

People with NPD can have very fragile self-esteem. When that self-esteem is punctured, narcissists are prone to both outbursts of temper and panic. Some become defensive and very hands-off. Others feel like the whole world is crashing down around them--obviously not a good way to be when you're President.

With his very first debate answer, John Kerry first offered some pleasantries, then went straight at the President--not the Administration, not the Department of State or Defense. He laid all the baggage for the debacle in Iraq squarely at the President's feet.

I can't help wondering if that was a psychologist-designed jab, crafted to knock our Narcissist-in-Chief straight on his can. After months of performing the same schtick before sycophantic audiences and with a staff which undoubtedly strokes his ego constantly, blam! here comes a guy telling the whole world what a fuckup he is. The narcissistic President can't blame his underlings on stage, so he has to let it slide... and then it starts to sink in: I really am a failure... I really did screw all this up... oh, shit! this guy really could do a better job--he's better than me, that sonofabitch! his people wrote better lines, and Rove insists that I start everything with this bullshit "September 11" line again...


Something worth considering on a Saturday night, I guess.

There is a darkly comic twist to narcissistic personality disorder, as I recall. People with NPD are extremely difficult to spot and even more troublesome to treat. They generally only show up for psychological evaluation when their confidence is totally shattered.

Once therapy begins to restore that confidence, they return to the idea that they are superior and privileged, decide they don't need treatment anymore, and go back to being assholes again.

[PopSixSquish]

28. Damn, if That Doesn't Describe W, I Don't Know What Does

Although I am a moderate drinker, two-three glasses of wine a week, I may just stop altogether after reading that.

One of my closest friends soon-to-be ex-husband also fits that description.

Very scary

[LiberalFighter]

36. When did he have his other physicals?

I could only find that he took a physical in August of 2001.

I imagine that his other physicals were around the same time period.

In fact it seems like he has had them right before he goes on his August vacation.

[Carla in Ca]

38. Yeah, canceled the one in 1972 also. Hmmm

n/t

[molly]

2. There have been posts here about him taking 2 meds

a day and noone seems to know what they are. If you go back and replay his prior debates, you will notice a world of difference.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. Wernicke syndrome

It has been covered before

This is a form of early dementia

[realFedUp]

Really? I had to google that medical term...here is info

Alternative names:
Korsakoff psychosis; alcoholic encephalopathy; encephalopathy, alcoholic; Wernicke's disease
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Definition:
A brain disorder involving loss of specific brain functions, due to thiamine deficiency.
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Causes, incidence, and risk factors:
Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome usually affects people between 40 and 80 years old. The onset is gradual.

The syndrome is actually two disorders that may occur independently or together. Wernicke's disease involves damage to multiple nerves in both the central nervous system (brain and spinal cord) and the peripheral nervous system (the rest of the body). It may also include symptoms caused by alcohol withdrawal. The cause is generally attributed to malnutrition, especially lack of vitamin B-1 (thiamine), which commonly accompanies habitual alcohol use or alcoholism.

Korsakoff syndrome, or Korsakoff psychosis, involves impairment of memory and intellect/cognitive skills such as problem solving or learning, along with multiple symptoms of nerve damage. The most distinguishing symptom is confabulation (fabrication) where the person makes up detailed, believable stories about experiences or situations to cover the gaps in the memory. Korsakoff psychosis involves damage to areas of the brain.

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Prevention:
Minimal or moderate alcohol use and adequate nutrition reduce the risk of developing Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. Remember they covered Ronny's

Alzheimers... you think they will not cover this?

[realFedUp]

16. "they" covered Ronnie's alzheimers AFTER he was out of office. n/t

[flyingfysh]

4. what about his postponed medical exam?

He postponed his annual physical until after the election. Maybe there is a reason?

[realFedUp]

18. good question

seems like it got swept under the examining table...

[skylarmae]

5. hIS BEHAVIOR LAST NITE IS HIS NORM

Today on the stump he was the very same. The only difference
is that today he had his script back. Last nite, no script!
But, yes, I've been saying for years, WTF is wrong with this
guy. I have attributed it to arrogance in the past, but you might
be on to something......

[A-Schwarzenegger]

6. All those dead bodies on his little pea-soul

is taking a toll.

[durablend]

25. HOLY S*** I'VE GOT IT!

****That's*** who Bush was telling to "let me finish" during the debates...it was the souls of the 1050+ GIs that were killed in Iraq haunting him!!!!!!

I wonder when else he hears voices??????

[AntiFascist]

7. involuntary mouth movements...

could indicate strong tranquilizers.

[liberal N proud]

8. Yes, He does seem to be getting worse.

[knowbody0]

15. your perspective

is accurate - what does this say about the checks and balance of our current government? from those close to him, to the house, senate and congress- the cia the fbi, his campaign people. im thinking he's been robotized and medicated to perform puppet like for some inceredibly dark omnipotent force. it is most frightening to comprehend. his body language last night made me feel sorry for him as a fellow human being.

[MADem]

10. He's put on weight as well

He's starting to look more like Bar every day. I know he hurt his knee, so had to go from running to biking, but then he falls off the bike all the time. Maybe his meds are causing him to pack it on, and maybe they make him dizzy, too.

What I can't get over is the difference between his speaking style in the Richards debates and the way he speaks now. He was actually reasonably articulate back then--he didn't make nearly as many mistakes with language and he didn't have problems pronouncing words like he does now.

It's almost like he had a short circuit or two...

[amazona]

12. I absolutely agree

If he is sober, then his brain must have been permanently damaged at some point. If he is using again, we have a right to be informed. Well, I guess we were informed. Anyone who has ever watched a drunk wave his hands and repeat stupid phrases over and over had a bad flashback last night.

[realFedUp]

13. He's always been a bit paranoid....

Didn't Kelley said that schizophrenia runs in the
family?

His 40% vacation time in office could be for a
medical reason.

[realFedUp]

17. The American people have a right to know

what Bush is taking medically for what
and if he's still abusing alcohol and
drugs. No one is allowed to pilot a
plane under such conditions. I don't
want him flying my country anymore either.

[Desertrose]

19. something definitely wrong.....

but we can say the same for the American people who cna't see this.

I worry about the future of this country....more so every day.

[salinen]

20. Perfectly normal behavior

for a 12 year old.

[realFedUp]

21. well....that's true

arrested development...

[drdigi420]

23. drinking = doing drugs

sorry, but the constant treatment of alcohol as if it is somehow seperate from other drugs disgusts me

alcohol is just as dangerous as cocaine, yet it kills MANY more people than ALL illegal drugs combined

stop treating alcohol as if people who use it are not drug users

[Hamlette]

24. he did it on purpose

his handlers told him to react to kerry's statements with bordom and annoyance. To treat Kerry like a lying 3 year old who will say anything to win the election.

the handlers didn't realize Bush looking annoyed is annoying. Bush looked like the 3 year old.

My question is: what do his handlers do now? We've heard rumors that Bush doesn't like criticism, will he take it from anyone? When Laura told him he didn't do well in a campaign appearance 20 years ago he rammed the car through the garage when they got home.

Will they all be telling him he did well? To keep his sprirts up and to keep him from droppig a nuke on France's garage? What effect will that have?

[jerryster]

27. N/S

Interesting statement from his handlers. Of course Bush did what they told him. He always listens to his handlers. Remember, though, that in 2000 they told him to stop smirking and he did. That helped him. We need to also remember that his handlers are very good at adjusting. They may not make the same mistakes again. I'm hoping that Bush overcompensates next time around. Unfortunately, I'm already preparing for the pundits to say Bush did much better even if he didn't. Maybe he'll have a full blown melt down and they won't be able to get away with it. Wouldn't that be spectacular?

[Stephanie]

32. The handlers can't improve Bush's IQ

Nor his record.

[Bran Bal]

26. Rove scheme?

I've been thinking it seemed just a little TOO bad my self.

Maybe the idea was to make him look like a moron in the first debate, but have him doing better in the other 2? That way the media spin can be "Bush makes come back - 1000 times better than before - crushes kerry" or something of that nature. Playing the low expectation then doing better than expected game is what they did in 2000.

It's also possible the election is rigged and they know they will win regardless, and thus really don't give a damn how well they do in the debates as the out come has already been guranteed.

[rocktivity]

29. Welcome to DU, Bran Bal!

:hi:
You wrote:
Maybe the idea was to make him look like a moron in the first debate, but have him doing better in the other 2?

If that was the Bush camp's intent, they would not have insisted on making foreign policy the subject of the first debate. Foreign policy was the subject of the three debates on which Bush was supposed to make Kerry a moron, because all he'd have to do was chant "9/11" and "flip-flopper." Kerry was supposed to have folded like a cheap umbrella as a result, but he counterattacked--and won--by pointing out that Bush had considerable credibility problems of his own when it came to foreign policy. And for the other two debates, all Kerry has to do is clobber him with one incriminating statistic after another--unless Bush starts chanting "faith."

:headbang:
rocknation

[burythehatchet]

31. unlikely because as I understand

most people only watch the first debate,

[NightOwwl]

34. Smirky is ready for a major meltdown

and when it happens, people want to see it. So if it weren't for the playoffs, I think the 2nd debate would have an even bigger audience.

[autorank]

35. Next debate will have a NASCAR audience.

Waiting and watching for the big crack-up. The C-Span split screen was fascinating. It was hard to keep your eyes off * for the reason you suggest. I think he came close to meltdown several times and may be having one right now.

[Zen Democrat]

30. He's a drunk. Not a dry drunk. He's just a drunk.

[Joe Turner]

37. It's most definately possible

That "pretzel" incident a couple of years ago got my curiosity up. I never bought the story that he choked on a pretzel, passed out, and fell to the floor. A pretzel? I don't think so. There is a lot of smoke here.

He's also banged himself up on other occasions, where the cover story was he fell off his bike, or fell while running. Yeah, well maybe, but was he drunk too?

My theory is that Shrub is basically dry most of the time but goes on periodic benders from time to time. I think this because to my knowledge he was never treated for alcoholism. And the vast majority of alcoholics that don't join AA and seek treatment remain alcoholics.

I guess we will find out the true story 20 years from now, unless someone goes public with an inside view.

[autorank]

41. They'll go public when the curtain is lifted and we see that ...

Bush was a disaster of Biblical proportions. Then the Mandarins will come forward and say how awful it was to work for this monster. Watch for it at a B/N near you. I believe you are right on target with the binge drinking theory. Can you imagine the amend list Bush would have if he ever did the 12 Steps?

[sandnsea]

40. He was acting normal

If people finally realize what a doofus he is, that's great. But he wasn't acting any different last night than any other time I've seen him. In fact, he didn't piss me off nearly as much as he usually does, so I kind of think he was better than normal. He's a sociopath and he's ignorant, not stupid, ignorant. That's our Pres.