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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:19 PM
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...did not serve...did not serve...did not serve...
Edited on Mon Sep-27-04 02:20 PM by WilliamPitt
Democrats

Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71.
David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72.
Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72.
Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam Jan. 1971 as an army
journalist in 20th Engineer Brigade.
! Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam.
Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-'47; Medal of Honor, WWII.
John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V,
Purple Hearts.
Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea.
Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star, Vietnam.
Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-1953.
Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.
Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91.
Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII, receiving the Bronze Star and
seven campaign ribbons.
Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, Bronze Stars,
and Soldier's Medal.
Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver Star and
Legion of Merit.
Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart.
Bill McBride: Candidate for Fla. Governor. Marine in Vietnam; Bronze
Star with Combat V.
Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star.
Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57
Chuck Robb: Vietnam
Howell Heflin: Silver Star
George McGovern: Silver Star & DFC during WWII.
Bill Clinton: Did not serve. Student deferments. Entered draft but
received 311.
Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy.
Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953
John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and Air Medal with 18 Clusters.
Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII. Saved by Raoul
Wallenberg.

Republicans

Dennis Hastert: did not serve.
Tom Delay: did not serve.
Roy Blunt: did not serve.
Bill Frist: did not serve.
Mitch McConnell: did not serve.
Rick Santorum: did not serve.
Trent Lott: did not serve.
Dick Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by marriage.
John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business.
Jeb Bush: did not serve.
Karl Rove: did not serve.
Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee." The man who attacked
Cleland's patriotism.
Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve.
Vin Weber: did not serve.
Richard Perle: did not serve.
Douglas Feith: did not serve.
Eliot Abrams: did not serve.
Richard Shelby: did not serve.
Jon Kyl: did not serve.
Tim Hutchison: did not serve.
Christopher Cox: did not serve.
Newt Gingrich: did not serve.
Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as aviator and flight instructor.
George W. Bush: failed to complete his six-year National Guard; got
assigned to Alabama so he could campaign for family friend running for
U.S. Senate; failed to show up for required medical exam, disappeared
from duty.
Ronald Reagan: due to poor eyesight, served in a non-combat role making
movies.
B-1 Bob Dornan: Consciously enlisted after fighting was over in Korea.
Phil Gramm: did not serve.
John McCain: Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and
Distinguished Flying Cross.
Bob Dole: an honorable veteran.
Chuck Hagel: two Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star, Vietnam.
Duke Cunningham: nominated for Medal of Honor, Navy Cross, Silver Stars,
Air Medals, Purple Hearts.
Jeff Sessions: Army Reserves, 1973-1986
Colin Powell: Long career in military management.
Don Nickles: National Guard, 1970-1976
Jim Inhofe: Army, 1954-1956
Dana Rohrabacher: did not serve.
John M. McHugh: did not serve.
JC Watts: did not serve.
Jack Kemp: did not serve. "Knee," although continued in NFL for 8 years.
Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Ind! iana National Guard.
Rudy Giuliani: did not serve.
George Pataki: did not serve.
Spencer Abraham: did not serve.
John Engler: did not serve.
Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer.
Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army ZZZbase.
George H.W. Bush: Pilot in WWII. Shot down by the Japanese.
Tom Ridge: Bronze Star for Valor in Vietnam.
Sam Johnson: Combat in Korea and Vietnam, POW in Hanoi.
Ted Stevens: WWII pilot, DFCs, two Air Medals.
John Warner: Served in the Navy during WWII as a RM3
Heather Wilson: Air Force 1978-1989
Gerald Ford: Navy, WWII

Pundits & Preachers

Sean Hannity: did not serve.
Rush Limbaugh: did not serve (4-F with a 'pilonidal cyst.')
Bill O'Reilly: did not serve.
Michael Savage: did not serve.
George Will: did not serve.
Chris Matthews: did not serve.
Paul Gigot: did not serve.
Bill Bennett: did not serve.
Pat Buchanan: did not serve.
John Wayne: did not serve.
Bill Kristol: did not serve.
Kenneth Starr: did not serve.
Antonin Scalia: did not serve.
Clarence Thomas: did not serve.
Ralph Reed: did not serve.
Michael Medved: did not serve.
Charlie Daniels: did not serve.
Ted Nugent: did not serve.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:22 PM
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1. hmmmm very interesting
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:23 PM
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2. Excellent, excellent job
n/t
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:25 PM
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3. I just realized thefact they didn't go to war has made them loose the
reality of the effects of war to the point they maybe obsessed with it and that is why we are is this messed up war. Rush Limbaugh is a pilonidal cyst.
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:25 PM
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4. On the pundits & preachers, Ollie North was omitted...
served, but was convicted of falsifying and destroying documents, obstructing Congress and illegally receiving the gift of a security fence around his home in Virginia. WOW. Nice guy - friend of Sean Insanity's.

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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:30 PM
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5. oh - and really great job with the list - very telling n/t
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:38 PM
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6. wankers and
chicken hawks all.
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Demi_Babe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:40 PM
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7. good work...very telling
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:43 PM
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8. They have Combat-Envy!
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nightperson Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:53 PM
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9. P.J. O'Rourke, author of "Give War A Chance" and "Peace Kills".
Edited on Mon Sep-27-04 02:54 PM by secondtermdenier
Shockingly :eyes: , the "Republican Party Reptile" did not serve.

To be fair: if I'm not mistaken, Bill Bennett's Why We Fight depicts his major part in a high stakes dice game in '79 that the U.N. declared a legitimate war and a humanitarian crisis for some parts of Nevada.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:36 PM
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23. In case PJ sees this, Michael O'Donoghue LOATHED PJ O'Rourke.
He really thought he was an overrated hack.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:54 PM
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10. and the "media can't share the obvious"....?
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Beausoleil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:55 PM
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11. You can add Tony Knowles
Democratic ex-governor and running for Senate from Alaska, US Army 1962-65, 82nd Airborne, Vietnam.

http://www.tonyknowles.com/biography.html?page=1&PHPSESSID=02f62ea46b997d9dd144d895533fafa8
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George W. Dunce Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 03:21 PM
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12. Looks like the New Hampshire Gazettes Chicken Hawk
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 03:50 PM
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13. What about the gals?
I believe I heard that Mrs. Barbara Bush was a proud WAC who
served well piloting air transport planes and came home with
a tattoo of Guam on her butt.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 04:20 PM
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14. Bush "disappeared from duty"
HINT FROM THE MOUNTAINS
FOR CERTAIN POLITICAL PRETENDERS-

"WHO but hails the sight with pleasure
When the wings of genius rise,
Their ability to measure
With great enterprise;
But in man was ne'er such daring
As yon Hawk exhibits, pairing
His brave spirit with the war in
The stormy skies!

"Mark him, how his power he uses,
Lays it by, at will resumes!
Mark, ere for his haunt he chooses
Clouds and utter glooms!
There, he wheels in downward mazes;
Sunward now his flight he raises,
Catches fire, as seems, and blazes
With uninjured plumes!"--

ANSWER

"Stranger, 'tis no act of courage
Which aloft thou dost discern;
No bold 'bird' gone forth to forage
'Mid the tempest stern;
But such mockery as the nations
See, when public perturbations
Lift men from their native stations
Like yon TUFT OF FERN;

"Such it is; the aspiring creature
Soaring on undaunted wing,
(So you fancied) is by nature
A dull helpless thing,
Dry and withered, light and yellow;--
'That' to be the tempest's fellow!
Wait--and you shall see how hollow
Its endeavouring!"

William Wordsworth- 1817.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 04:23 PM
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15. Pundit: James Carville
served USMC!
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 04:37 PM
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18. Pundit/Radio Talk Show Host Randi Rhodes
Served in the United States Air Force
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returnable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 04:34 PM
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16. Ya forgot one rather important Dem...
Wes Clark! :hi:
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 04:37 PM
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17. Tom Delay was a victim of political correctness
said that all the spots were taken up by minorities. (no joke)

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LeinesRed Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:59 PM
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29. wasn't that even caught on videotape?
that completely nonsensical quote of his!
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 04:42 PM
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19. I just read Orin Hatch's bio from his website
Orin Hatch: did not serve.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:37 PM
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24. Will Pitt: Not claiming to be a military hero, not sending others to die
I assume you had a point?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:38 PM
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25. Will Pitt doesn't promote wars for profit. Chickenhawks do. YOUR point?
.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:52 PM
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27. Will Pitt serves the interests of peace and justice with his advocacy
and activism.

Those listed promote war and conquest while folks other than themselves sacrifice their lives, limbs and livlihoods.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:58 PM
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28. Did you serve???
Tell us, did you?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:44 PM
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26. This man serve as Governor of Massachusetts from 1793 to 1797

Samuel Adams
American Patriot & Politician

1722 - 1803

If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude
greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace.
We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand
that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity
forget that ye were our countrymen.

Samuel Adams


Samuel Adams was born in Boston, Massachusetts on September 27, 1722. He was a leader of the fight against British colonial rule, and a signer of the Declaration of Independence. Adams was a cousin of John Adams who became President of the United States.

Samuel Adams graduated from Harvard College with a Master of Arts degree in 1743. After college he entered private business, and throughout this period was an outspoken participant in Boston town meetings. When his business failed in 1764 Adams entered politics full-time, and was elected to the Massachusetts legislature. He lead the effort to establish a committee of correspondence that published a Declaration of Colonial Rights that Adams had written. He was a vocal opponent of several laws passed by the British Parliament to raise revenue in the American Colonies, including the Tea Act which gave a British trading company a monopoly on the import of tea into the colonies. This opposition reached its peak on December 16, 1773 when a group of Bostonians dumped a British cargo of tea into Boston Harbor. This act of resistance is referred to as the Boston Tea Party.

The British Parliament responded to the "Boston Tea Party" by passing a set of laws referred to as the "Intolerable Acts." These laws included the closing of Boston Harbor and the restriction town meetings. Adams then urged a general boycott of British trade by the American Colonies.

In 1774 the Massachusetts legislature send Adams and four others as its representatives to the First Continental Congress. Adams served Massachusetts again at the Second Continental Congress where he was an advocate for independence and confederation for the American Colonies.

Adams served Continental Congress until his return to Boston in 1781. He initially opposed the new Constitution of the United States, but finally supported its ratification in Massachusetts. Adams served as Governor of Massachusetts from 1793 to 1797.
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kokomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 06:15 PM
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30. Even the British Royals do their duty in the military....
and if anybody could pull strings!!!!

Prince Andrew, the Duke of York, joined the military in 1979 and retired his commission in 2001. He piloted a helicopter in the Falklands War in 1982. Prince Charles also served in the Royal Navy.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 06:22 PM
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31. There are plenty of D's and R's that served, and never came home...
from all of our wars. On a Military marker, your name, your rank, your state, YOB/YOD and the highest combat award received are what are there.

There is no allusion to religious preference, except a cross or a Star of David on some markers. There is no refence to political party or affiliation. You are a dead servicemember, and all else pales beside that.

As for Will Pitt serving, as a vet, I hold no animosity for his lack of service. He does NOT advocate war as an answer to the worlds problems.

Chickenhawks, of whom the vast legions are Republicans DO advocate war at every step of the equation. Perhaps, if the knew what they were sending people to do and die for, that might be different; but there is no proof that any of the Chickenhawks got any of there info from other than John Wayne movies, and old Reagan Hollywood tripe punched out on sound stages.....:(
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