We will get PO

[ind_thinker2]

this is same post as TPM //

http://www.dailykos.com/

I am no longer angry, thanks for soothing touch

[firedupdem]

1. Buh bye! Unnamed sources rule! n/t

[villager]

2. "snatching defeat from the jaws of victory" -- more from the article here:

"...snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Reid is nearly there on cloture vote with the public option. The only point here would be being able to call the thing "bipartisan." Guess what? No one outside of the Village gives a shit if it's bipartisan. Particularly the Democratic base that needs to be energized in 2010 for turnout."

[gateley]

3. Dailyl Kos isn't in on the meetings with Obama. Why don't you just wait and see

what happens before getting all depressed?

Your ulcers will thank you for it. :7

[SpartanDem]

4. They didn't confirm anything they just linked to the TPM story

[Thrill]

5. This is just reporting from the same article

.

[backscatter712]

6. I don't believe it. No. Really. I don't believe it.

As in I'm calling bullshit unless someone on the inside is willing to put his or her name on this story.

Until then, this is the usual salacious, frequently wrong Beltway gossip.

[argonaut]

7. Not voting in 2012? Good idea, because President Palin will doubtless introduce the public option.

Oh, wait!

[Connie_Corleone]

8. You're really stinking it up in here today!

All of these blogs are just "reporting" what Talking Points put up from "unnamed sources".

All you're doing is posting the same story over and over again.

[FrenchieCat]

9. So you say that won't be voting in 2012? Well, we hate to see you go, but

bu-bye! :hi:

[Engineer4Obama]

10. Correction

Daily Kos Reports that Talking Points Memo sources unnamed sources claim that the white house is pushing a trigger.

Then again the on the record comment of Jarret on Morning Joe this morning said the exact opposite.

So color me confused.

[Beetwasher]

11. They Confirm Nothing, They Repost The Story Posted On TPM

Here's Ezra Klein's take, which is not as doomy gloomy:

Within the last week, Chuck Schumer moved from talking to various senators about a national public option with a state opt-out clause to actually conducting something of a whip count on the proposal. His team found that a number of moderates didn't love the idea, and might vote to strip it on the floor, but it wasn't enough to push them toward a filibuster. At about this point, Harry Reid began sending out some feelers of his own, and the response was positive enough that he warmed to including it in the bill.

Then Max Baucus held a meeting.

Here, stories begin to diverge. Depending on who you talk to, Baucus either held a routine, informational meeting telling the Senate moderates and members of the Senate Finance Committee what's going on, as he's been doing fairly regularly, or he held a meeting in which he tried to rally Senate moderates to change Reid's mind. Or maybe there's no difference between the two. The first to really speak out after the meeting was Sen. Ben Nelson, and, as one staffer pointed out, Nelson didn't need Baucus to remind him that he was opposed to a national public option. Soon enough, Olympia Snowe was also making firm statements against the public option, and threatening a filibuster.

On Thursday night, Reid went over to the White House for a talk with the president. The conversation centered on Reid's desire to put Schumer's national opt-out plan into the base bill. White House officials were not necessarily pleased, and they made that known. Everyone agrees that they didn't embrace Reid's new strategy. Everyone agrees that the White House wants Snowe on the bill, feels the trigger offers a safer endgame, and isn't convinced by Reid's math. But whether officials expressed a clear preference for the trigger, or were just worried about the potential for 60 votes, is less clear. One staffer briefed on the conversation says "the White House basically told us, 'We hope you guys know what you're doing.'"

[DrToast]

12. TPMDC is reporting that, not Daily Kos. Oh, and Ezra Klein is also reporting that

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2009/10/white_house_to_reid_we_hope_yo.html

[Beetwasher]

13. Klein's Report Is a Bit More Nuanced And Realistic IMO

n/t

[CakeGrrl]

14. Buh-bye, Doomsday! n/t

[Oregone]

15. Thats becoming a given. The real debate is what kind of PO

[hokies]

16. Only a small percentage of Americans will get the public option

[FrenchieCat]

17. That's how it starts.....

And a start is all that we need. It will give a chance for the program to
be perfected prior to an avalanche of folks coming in.
Sounds smart to me.