Band shirts hit wrong note with parents (The Flat Earth Caucus strikes in Sedalia, MO)

[DuaneBidoux]

T-shirts worn by the Smith-Cotton High School band have evolved into controversy among parents.

The shirts, which were designed to promote the band’s fall program, are light gray and feature an image of a monkey progressing through stages and eventually emerging as a man. Each figure holds a brass instrument. Several instruments decorate the background and the words “Smith-Cotton High School Tiger Pride Marching Band” and “Brass Evolutions 2009” are emblazoned above and below the image.

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[sakabatou]

1. Fucking creationists...

:banghead:

[liberal N proud]

2. Sedalia is smack in the bible belt

[DrDan]

3. are they trying to raise money? Post this story and put 'em for sale

they will sell a million of 'em.

These ridiculous evolution-deniers need to get a grip . . . and an education.

[DuaneBidoux]

6. I would find it simply embarrassing if the Earth wasn't in so much trouble now.

But letting these people have ANY kind of influence on national science and technology policies now should simply no longer be permitted.

[hobbit709]

7. They have a grip-on their Bibles.

Read H.L.Mencken's take on the Scopes Trial-nothing's changed since 1920 for these thumpers.

[fugop]

15. No kidding!

It says in the story that after the shirts had to be turned in (so I guess kids who didn't turn them in would have been in trouble?), the band would have to absorb the $700 it cost to make them.

They really ought to sell them online. I'd buy one! Unbelievable that in a public school people would say "We don't want evolution associated with our school!"

The stupidity. It burns.

[BlooInBloo]

4. Americans fighting as hard as possible to be as stupid as possible...

Same as it ever was.

[PBS Poll-435]

5. Wow

Just wow.

[Crosseyed Jesus]

8. Brain Dead Monkeys

It is a freekin outright shame that this young generation has to adhere to their freekin parents ignorance and mythological fantasies!
Here we have the generation that will deal with the 21st century being subjected to imbeciles that continue to devolve (Devo) dragging the future into the darkness of their grey matter.

[DuaneBidoux]

9. Just think, if we try to make dems "pay" for not being liberal enough these people take power again.

[katandmoon]

12. TAKE power again? They are still IN power.

[DuaneBidoux]

16. At least in the heart of red territory.

[joeycola]

34. But many do not act like it.

[GrantDem]

21. Then I guess the Dems better do the job they were elected to do.

It seems that all they are worried about is being re-elected. After telling the "liberals" to sit down and shut up they can get re-elected without us.

[SoCalDem]

10. "Tiger Pride"..and using monkeys?

I understand the "evolutions" part, but this sounds a lot like someone trying to create a furor where none was necessary.. Why not a TIGER? In an area where evolution is a dirty word, it seems a bit too edgy to use that word.. Did they really think this would be okay with the fundies, who eagerly jump on stuff like this?

[Crosseyed Jesus]

11. Realty vs Fantasy

Maybe they are under the assumption that they have freedom of expression. And the fact that they are adhering to scientific realty, and not to the illusions of a private parochial campus?

[BlueJazz]

13. Sometimes it's necessary to jam stuff done people's throats ,,,even if it's wrong.

[SoCalDem]

14. So they should stop complaining about the backlash

You poke a bees nest, cannot complain about being swarmed & stung :)

[Crosseyed Jesus]

17. Then The Truth......

shall be the honey!

[BlueJazz]

20. Yes...Your words ring true.

[droidamus2]

19. who gives a damn whether the fundies like it!!! (nt)

[droidamus2]

18. Fact

The fact is that the theory of evolution has absolutely nothing to do with religion. The fact that some religions or religious people want to argue with its accuracy does not change the fact that it is simply a scientific theory with no integral connection to religion at any level. Why is it these days that every time a few parents bitch about something their 'feelings' override everybody else. I think in a lot of these case the 'powers that be' just make up the 'calls from concerned parents' so they can follow their own prejudices. It should be a rule that if these parents want to complain and have something as innocuous as these t-shirts banned then their names should be published. That way we know who the ignoramuses are and much more importantly how many people actually complained.

[Arugula Latte]

22. Evolution is not even a "theory" really. It's a proven fact.

It's a "theory" in the same way that gravity is a theory.

[ArbustoBuster]

25. Right.

I forget which scientist I saw in a documentary say something along the lines of, "Evolution is an observed fact. Natural selection is the theory which we think explains the observed fact of evolution."

[Arugula Latte]

32. That's a good way to put it.

I'll have to remember that.

[droidamus2]

29. Correct

Though scientists don't usually refer to well proven theories as 'facts' if a theory has been around long enough and further hypothesis and testing has been unable to prove the theory wrong, i.e gravity and evolution, the theory does take on the level of being an accepted fact. I use evolution and theory because that is the accepted reference not in any way to question its accuracy.

[tomm2thumbs]

23. from the article ...'Evolution is controversial' - yeah, right.

here - everyone get a good gander at what is controversial to wing nuts - but not torture, wars or blocking health care

[DuaneBidoux]

24. Evolution is a fact. The theory of evolution has to do with mechanisms of evolution.

It's like the theory of gravity. There is still a great deal of research going on in gravity and its mechanisms, especially at the quantum level. There are many mechanisms that explain change through time but there are still many areas that are not yet understood as far as the mechanism.

[and-justice-for-all]

26. Is this the same story that was posted not to long ago??

or the same churchy bullshit in another city?

[JohnnyLib2]

27. I hope the controvesy enrages some of the kids.

And, gets them to defend evolution loudly and strongly.

[Doremus]

28. Love Love Love this reply

Whenever I see people denying the discoveries of science because of some element of their beliefs, it makes me sad. I'm not talking about questioning science - questioning is good so long as you go out and actually seek answers. I'm talking about flat out denial.

"Travel to the Moon is impossible because the Hindu Vedas say the Moon is much farther away than the Sun." That is an actual belief shared by millions.

"Geological science is false because adding up the begats in the Bible proves the Earth is only around 6000 years old." Again, an actual belief shared by millions.

"Evolution is false because the story of Adam and Eve is literal truth." Once again, shared by millions.

snip

Science tells us of a deceptively simple, elegant process of gradual change, adding complexity step by tiny step, driven by the imperative to survive, leading to stunningly varied, adaptable, resilient life - life so vibrant and sweeping that it changed the very nature and composition of our planet.

Science tells us we are important because in the vast scheme of the universe, our existence is so terribly improbable. We are precious on a universal scale, each of us one of the inconceivably lucky few to actually comprehend what is around us. We are how the universe is aware of itself.

How terribly sad to ignore, condemn or deny such thoughts. How sad to align with the same people who denied Galileo, who denied Newton. How sad to deny we're made of the stuff of stars. How sad to deny that our extended family includes all the living creatures around us, that we are a part of the precious web of life on our little blue ball."


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[Cha]

30. It would tres sad to have a blockage

to your grey matter.

[fortyfeetunder]

31. E-bay...auction 'em off

that will help the band out!!!

[saltpoint]

33. Life is generally speaking short enough that most people with some sort of

brain stem might agree that there are better things to worry about than band t-shirts.

The fundie nutbags are dwindling in number but they keep squawking louder.