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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 08:10 AM
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Rep. Tim Murphy (R), Pittsburgh area backtracks; now says Obama is a citizen. In a letter to the
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 08:39 AM
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1. Yeah---but he conflates it with Bush's NG records...
He's a Douche.
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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 09:36 AM
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2. Is this only on the web or is it in print?
Because if he only put it out on the web then I have to wonder about the sincerity of his statements. If he really wanted this to be a dead issue, then why didn't he put it in the actual paper? My guess....He wants to continue using these lies to pander to his constituency. Most won't see his admission and he will continue to maintain his support by willfully refusing to correct the lies. This should be sent to Rachel so she give it the proper exposure.
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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 10:06 AM
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4. I sent it to Rachel
and posted a comment on the blog entry.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 10:49 AM
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6. It is in this morning's Sunday paper on the editorial page. Link is from Post-Gazette.com. nt
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 09:37 AM
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3. Lordy. These guys are assholes. n/t
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Nyquil Man Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 10:19 AM
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5. Challenge to the GOP: If you believe this, call for impeachment.
If any member of Congress believes President Obama is not natural born, they must also believe he is violating the Constitution by serving as President. I think that would definitely qualify as an impeachable offense.

And any member of Congress who believes President Obama is not natural born and is not pushing for impeachment is violating their oath to uphold the Constitution. They themselves should be impeached.

Force these people to go on record. Not on the Internet, not at a town hall. No, force them to go on record on the floor of Congress.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 01:00 PM
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8. I agree with you. This should be their next step. Either come out publicly..
and distance themselves from the birthers, or embrace them (on the record), and call for the president's impeachment. Sounds like a plan.:thumbsup:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 11:00 AM
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7. Obama needs to put these repugs in a room at the WH
And tell them, "Anyone who's going around insinuating that I'm not a US citizen, say it to my face right now, or knock it off."
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 01:37 PM
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9. From Liberal Pittsburgh Blog 2politicaljunkies
Both MSNBC's Rachel Maddow Show and the Pittsburgh area blog 2 Political Junkies reported that Congressman Murphy sent a lengthy message to some constituents acknowledging the concerns of those who question President Obama's citizenship, but not taking a stand himself on the matter. Chief of Staff Mosychuk told me that Murphy's office has done no mailing on this topic; she says that the congressman is focused on the issue of health care.

When I pressed and asked whether Congressman Murphy had sent out any e-mails on the subject, Mosychuk said she would not respond to blogs or videos that have appeared on the Internet. When I asked the chief of staff whether she was saying the alleged message from Congressman Murphy was bogus or a fabrication, she chose not to answer directly. She instead repeated her statement: "Congressman Murphy's position is that President Obama is a natural-born U.S. Citizen".

http://2politicaljunkies.blogspot.com/

They also posted letter Murphy sent a reader sent them that Rachel Maddow quoted.

Thank you for taking the time to contact me to express your concern regarding President Barack Obama's qualification to serve as president under Article Two of the Constitution. It is good to hear from you and I appreciate the opportunity to respond to your concerns.

Article Two sets forth the principal qualifications for serving as president. A presidential candidate must be a natural-born citizen of the United States, be at least thirty-five years old, and have been a permanent resident in the United States for at least fourteen years.

Before being elected president, then Senator Barack Obama was plagued with questions about whether or not he is a "natural-born citizen" of the United States, as the Constitution requires. To refute these claims, the Obama campaign in June of 2008 released a "Certification of Live Birth" stating Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii in 1961, and is therefore a native citizen of the United States and eligible to serve as President.

Since that time, numerous lawsuits have been filed challenging the president's eligibility to serve as president under the Constitution's "natural born citizen" clause. Some lawsuits maintain President Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen because he was born in Kenya, not Hawaii. Before giving birth, the suits claim, President Obama's mother traveled to Kenya with his father but was prevented from flying back to Hawaii because of the late stage of her pregnancy, and therefore gave birth to the President in Kenya. At the time of birth, the suits contend, President Obama's father was a Kenyan citizen subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom, thus handing down British citizenship to the President, while his mother was a minor at the time of his birth, too young to confer American citizenship. Moreover, critics argue his grandmother claims to have been present at his birth in Kenya. Under United States naturalization laws, citizenship can be conferred when both parents were U.S. citizens at the time of the child's birth and at least one parent lived in the United States prior to the child's birth. The lawsuits contend these requirements were not met.

Other suits claim that even if the President was born in the United States, he lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia. These suits point out the President's move to Indonesia when he was a child and his attendance at a school where only Indonesian citizens were allowed. As a historical matter, U.S. citizenship can be forfeited upon the undertaking of various acts, including naturalization in a foreign state.

Critics argue that the President can easily end the debate by simply producing his original birth certificate, rather than the Registration of Live Birth document he has provided thus far. They argue if the president is a natural born citizen, then producing this document should not be a problem.

The Constitution is the supreme law of the land and I unconditionally agree that the Constitution must always be upheld to the full extent. Still, in our system of government, the Supreme Court is the final arbiter of constitutionality. To date, many of the lawsuits have been dismissed for lack of jurisdiction and standing, while others remain pending in the judicial system. The phrase "natural born citizen" is not defined anywhere in the Constitution and its interpretation has never been the subject of a U.S. Supreme Court ruling. While this issue is currently before the courts, I will keep your views in mind and continue to monitor the situation carefully.

Please do not hesitate to contact me with further questions or concerns. If you are interested in receiving my email newsletter describing important votes and key committee activity, I invite you to visit my website at http://murphy.house.gov and sign up.

Sincerely,

Tim Murphy
Member of Congress

http://2politicaljunkies.blogspot.com/
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 04:50 PM
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10. This asshole is my Representative.

He's actually nice on a personal, non-political level.


But he's wrong on every political position he takes. Every single one.
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