Atheists Had Better Watch Their Backs In California

[WeDidIt]

Since mob rule is the law, they could take away YOUR rights, too.

Atheists are the most reviled minority in this country. More reviled than gay people. More reviled than nearly any minority you'd care to name.

And since the upholding of Prop H8 by the CASC was predicated upon the precedent that the state could curb the right to vote by felons via proposition, watch out.

The next step might be to go after the right to vote by Atheists.

[tekisui]

1. What needs careful attention is any potential violations of the US

Constitution. Any ballot measure to take away voting rights would clearly not stand up in court.

The argument needs to be crafted how Prop 8 violates the US Constitution. Equal protection is the most obvious route to take.

[WeDidIt]

2. Okay, how about not allowing Atheists to marry?

There's a sticky wicket.

[tekisui]

4. That would be more analogous.

[krabigirl]

3. Yep. That's what I've been thinking.

[phantom power]

5. Yeah but we're much harder to spot

:evilgrin:

[PurityOfEssence]

16. Aaah, I can tell 'em by the way they walk.

It's all in the hips.

Certainly the fantasists are out in the open these days, and this is the BIGGEST problem I have and have had for a long time with our President, but the tide of history is on our side, just as it is for gays: reality will not be cowed forever.

[Soylent Brice]

6. K&R

no one is safe in an atmosphere like this.

which group is up next...

[JNelson6563]

8. You are so right.

Damn I so wish evolution would pick up some speed.

[csziggy]

9. Ah, but evolution is not always to the better

That was why Idiocracy could make sense.

[Soylent Brice]

13. either evolution, or emotional maturity, whichever comes first for the human race.

[JNelson6563]

14. Exactly

Enough of this "you're different from me therefore you must be inferior" shit!

Julie

[Fresh_Start]

7. okay so we need a proposition to prevent atheists from marrying

to setup a battle royale, though I honestly think that infertile people and people who don't want to have children should be banned from marriage as well. After all how can allowing people who are not pro-family marry be a family values position.
:sarcasm:

[Hello_Kitty]

22. Yeah, why are infertile people allowed to marry?

Since, apparently, the only reason for marriage is children.

[Auggie]

10. No one is coming after Atheists in California

And I believe Prop 8 will be overturned by California voters in the near future

[Bluenorthwest]

17. You mean the same voters who just passed it in November?

Then why did they pass it in November, confusion? No, these are the same people who voted Arnold into office twice, that's all. The same people who backed the racist Pete Wilson, another CA Gov of wonder. I spend almost all of my life in CA, and if they are not voting on the rights they don't want immigrants to have, then it is gay people. It has been that way there for ages on end. Humans are forced to beg for decent treatment periodically by the California voters.
I remember one of my first votes was cast against a popular California measure to fire all the gay teachers, back in 78. Briggs. We defeated that one, but it took some hard core work. And here we are 31 years on, California again wanting to vote away rights from gay folk, having gone as far as you dare with the immigrant population. But CA is always ganging up on a minority and voting on 'em.
The denial thing is very much last week. CA needs to step up or shut up. Believe that.

[ShadowLiberal]

19. It was a narrow vote, the more time that passes the more support for gay marriage grows

The longer we wait the more young people (who overwhelmingly support gay marriage) turn 18 and can vote, and the more older people (who tend to be more strongly against gay marriage) die off. Nate Silver predicted that in 2010 Californians would reject ballot initiatives to ban gay marriage.

[Auggie]

21. Both my parents (80 years old) voted for 8 but now regret their decision.

I believe it will be overturned next year

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

11. My atheist self and my atheist wife have been married for years.

Atheists, smokers, fat people... they can't all be the most reviled minority in the country.

[dmallind]

12. well they can yes

But atheists in the sense of political acceptability and perceived trustworthiness ARE the most reviled. See Pew and U Minn studies for a start.

It's not always only about marriage. Seven state constitutions ban atheist from holding public office for a start.

[ensho]

15. its gotten to the point that I wouldn't want to visit or live in Calif.

the state used to have lots of human energy and a forward thinking outlook.

now I think of Calif. as being dingy.

the weather has battered it good, causing all kinds of destruction.

the people have been continually robbed by one kind of Baron or another.

bad weather and the Barons haven't gone away. the future looks . . .

[cooolandrew]

18. Well I wouldn't go that far beating on Cali is no the smartest political strategy. >

Our work is to make the case for more tolerance in California not entrench folks that have those views and lose the state in a GE. That's like 50 steps backwards, the whole agenda of prop 8 was not gay marriage it's about the GOP returning to power that's all in the end they care about. When we attack California we are playing right into their hands and they love it. It's a wonderful state california it's not like there aren't views we disagree with in other states too. So let's be cool. Sure we might gain other states but it's not wisest move to lose the big trophy. Especially if the aim is to see more rights for the LGBT community however big or small. You have to see the end objective and keep all allies close even if we have certain disagreements with those faithful allies.

[dorkulon]

20. We've always had to watch our backs everywhere.

And actually, we score lower than TERRORISTS in public opinion polls.

[Hello_Kitty]

23. Okay, I'll become a Satanist then.

Since it's a religion, I'll be a member of a protected class. :evilgrin:

[burning rain]

25. If I were to get religion, it would probably be that one.

'Cause if there's a heaven, I sure don't want to go there when I die. Word has it there's no sin there, so send me where the notoriously pro-naughtiness Devil reigns.

[Telly Savalas]

24. So is there even a fringe movement to disenfranchise atheists

or are you completely making this up out of thin air?