Article about Pelosi being drawn into GOP net/trap:

[rasputin1952]

Newsweek's Tina Brown:

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The leak propelled her into a press conference on Thursday, when she confirmed she had heard from her aide about waterboarding in February 2003—but then, and only then. "They didn't tell us everything they were doing," she said. "We had to get a new president to change the policy." Asked a follow-up on her way out of the room, Pelosi lost her cool, stalked back to the podium and gave a soundbite that was a telling clue to her state of mind at the time: "I was fighting the war in Iraq at that point, too, you know."

She couldn't say what I suspect was the truth: "Look, we were conned about torture in the first briefing, and then, when I found out, it was too late. What was I going to do? Sure, Jane Harman sent her letter. Good for her. I was trying to fight this next horror show coming down in Iraq. The Republicans were killing us, and you in the press rolled over, too. You have to pick your battles, guys. This was hardball."

She's clearly fit to be tied that all the heat is on her, when it's the Bush administration that ought to be in the dock. She knows, too, that so few of the congressional Democrats had served in the executive branch, they didn't realize how radically the White House was rewiring it.

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The GOP will keep gunning for her; she's a far easier target than Obama. And she will continue, too, to face fire from within her own ranks—both from the left and from the increasingly disaffected Blue Dogs elected last year.


http://www.newsweek.com/id/197890/output/print


As I've said before, this is an attempt by cheney and the GOP to take heat off of themselves. I believe there will be hell to pay in the GOP ranks in the near future.

[ClassWarrior]

1. Article about GOP being drawn into Pelosi's net/trap:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-05-18/gops-torture-tricks-backfire/

NGU.

[Cary]

2. What "hell to pay" would that be?

Please be graphic. I could use something the cheer me up. :)

[rasputin1952]

4. In time, I think there will be an investigation into the mess...

at that point, the GOP will come out on the bottom of the heap. cheney is bluffing, an investigation would crush everything they are now saying...he knows it, and so does the rest of the GOP.

Pelosi's best option is to call for a full investigation. Even if she takes a beating in an investigation, it would pale compared to what the GOP would go through.

[rateyes]

3. Ms. Pelosi, when you refused to consider impeachment, you laid down with dogs...

why are you now complaining about the fleas? You weren't fighting the war in Iraq. You were too busy FUNDING IT, and you are STILL FUNDING IT! You should do NOW, what you refused to do 2 1/2 yrs. ago. CUT THE FUNDING.

[rasputin1952]

5. I agree defunding would do the trick...

as far as impeachement...once again, it would have served no purpose. Quite simply, there were not enough votes to convict. It would have stopped everything in government and the country, and would have resolved nothing...just as what happened w/Clinton.

Here is the scenario at the time:

bush impeached

cheney would have to be impeached as well

"If" convicted in the Senate, both have to leave...Pelosi becomes president...no one thinks this would not look like a coup?

However...there was literally NO CHANCE of bush/cheney being convicted...it would have been futile from day one.

I despise bush/cheney, but looking at the big picture...impeachment should have been off the table.

Investigate and prosecute now, it's never to late to look for justice. As an additional bonus if tried and convicted now, bush/cheney would receive prison time...impeachment/conviction merely removes them from office.

[rateyes]

10. I won't reargue this one. I've argued the point ad nauseum.

I have to agreeably disagree with you on the consequences of impeachment.

[OHdem10]

6. Yesterday on CNN, a Think-Tanker Type, cannot remember his name,

explained the situation the most honestly.

Back at that time--"there were no profiles in courage"--the
Democrats were fearful of being accused of being unpatriotic.
No one was going to stand up even if to speak the truth.

I think we all can agree the Republicans kept the Democrats
in tow by hanging "patriotism" over their head.

IMO, this is why from the beginning Nancy would have been
better off to have set any argument she made in context
of what the country was like at the time.

I am surprised that so many here do not seem to remember these
events.

[NYC_SKP]

7. I caught that "no profiles in courage" piece and it was spot on.

And congress still has too many cowards though the prospects for progress are greater than in recent past.

[Peacetrain]

8. It is so obvious that this is what the GOP is doing, and the media is complicit

The mea culpas after the run up to the 2nd Iraq war, ring really hollow right now.. they are doing it again.. and I do blame the media for not calling foul

[kickysnana]

9. If you check her/Congress approval rating, her own doing you can see her problem.

It is to the GOPs advantage to leave her in, not ours.

I never did figure out why the Dems didn't retire their defensive team and bring out the offense in January. Everyone knew this was going to happen.