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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 12:56 PM
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The Case For Howard Dean: Moral Center
http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040119&s=cohn011904

When I first interviewed Howard Dean in early 2002, the Iraq war was still a glint in Dick Cheney's eye, nobody had heard of Meetup.com, and Dean's campaign organization numbered all of one. Beyond Vermont, he was virtually unknown: As we walked through downtown Boston, not a soul recognized him. He was also a more simple character then--just another earnest public servant embarking on a long-shot bid for the White House. Dean had been charming: blunt, as always, but in a disarming, comical way. Eventually I wrote a piece touting his strong record and provocative critique of President Bush. Then I predicted his lack of money and notoriety would doom him to obscurity.

OK, so I got that last part wrong. Did I also exaggerate his virtues? Every week seems to expose new political liabilities and gaps in Dean's resumé. At times, he has been more angry than funny, more messianic than inspiring--basically, as unrecognizable to me as he was to those Bostonians we passed on the streets. But Dean has also proved more resourceful than I ever imagined. And the fundamental rationales for his candidacy--his accomplishments in Vermont and proposals for the United States--are as compelling today as they were two years ago. They're just a lot harder to see.

When Dean became governor in 1991, Vermont had a $65 million deficit and New England's lowest bond rating. Arguing that such conditions would starve the state of its ability to help citizens in need and scare away employers, Dean made responsible fiscal management his first order of business, reducing spending and taxes. This allowed him to eliminate the deficit within three years and then build up a rainy-day fund. Today, Vermont has New England's highest bond rating. And, virtually alone among states, it has avoided draconian cuts in its social programs--by tapping Dean's surpluses.

Those results haven't always mollified Dean's critics on the left, who wanted him to be less accommodating to big business and less thrifty with the state's money. But Dean was just as headstrong when it came to pursuing the goals he did share with liberals--expanding health insurance and social services for low-income children. Under Dean, Vermont plowed money into its Medicaid program, broadening eligibility to include working families--families too poor to afford insurance but too well-off to qualify for assistance under the old Medicaid guidelines. As a result, nearly every child in Vermont now has health insurance. A less well-known--but in many ways more innovative--policy triumph of the Dean years was the enactment of "Success by Six." That program offers the parents of newborns home visits from local social workers, who can advise on everything from what you should feed your baby to whom you call if you think you qualify for government assistance. Nine in ten Vermont parents opt for the visits, and state officials say the program helps identify problem cases--like cases of physical abuse--in their early stages.

These successes are why no less an authority than Bill Clinton has said, "Nobody did a better job on health care than did as governor of Vermont."

<SNIP>

Dean's resourcefullness is what will win him the nomination and the general election.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 01:20 PM
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1. Me Too
I think Dean is the new comeback kid.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 01:23 PM
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2. LOL. Dean and "moral center" in the same proximty? Surely you jest.
The man is all over the map on every position he's ever taken. Good grief.
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adamrsilva Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 01:37 PM
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5. So I guess he didn't work to get a great healthcare and
education program for the people in his state, then?
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 01:28 PM
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3. Regarding the IWR and the war, this TNR writer gets it
...in the weeks leading up to the war vote, most Democrats were not interested in the kind of congressional scrutiny Iraq deserved; they were more interested in expediting a vote so it didn't interfere with the congressional elections. If willingness to insulate national security questions from politics is among the most essential qualities of a commander-in-chief, then Dean's claim to that characteristic seems, if anything, stronger than his rivals.

Bullseye!!
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 01:33 PM
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4. Another "Bullseye!" argument for Dean
...Part of Dean's unorthodox appeal is his willingness to take unpopular stands, which conveys an image of principle. If Dean has one clear strength over his rivals, it's that he grasps how taking occasional risks--saying something controversial or attempting to lead public opinion rather than follow it--can be a more viable political strategy than trying desperately never to stray far from majority views.
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 01:56 PM
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9. I like his principles though some say they are old fashioned.
Such as asking for a trial for suspected war criminals. Folks like Kerry would rather disregard our constitutional rights, and give the power of war to the president instead of Congress as intended by the division of powers in our government.

Dean just seems to have principles, while most of the others, with the exception of Kucinich, Sharpton, and Braun, have compromised theirs.
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Atlant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 01:40 PM
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6. Go Howard! People-Powered-Howard rolls on! (NT)
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 01:41 PM
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7. He's experienced...he's managed a bduget....he knows the political
game.

I want somebody with politcal office experience...preferably one that has not been "owned"....like the one in DC.

We need alot of changes in this country. The medai, the DLC don't want Dean...therefore you know he's the right person.
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Atlant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 04:14 PM
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13. Yeah, but how does he look in a Speedo? Huh? :-) (NT)
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 01:41 PM
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8. And the "nail in the coffin" for Dean's opponents
...no Democrat in this race has an easy path to victory in November. Perhaps that's why a new Time/CNN poll actually showed Dean running the closest to Bush of any Democrat, losing by just six points--51 to 46. A few weeks ago, Republican strategist Vin Weber offered this assessment of Dean: He seems like the easiest to beat on paper, but he is also the biggest wild card. That's about right. If Dean has the most potential to lose big, he also has the most potential to shake up the race and pull an upset. That's not a reason to vote for him, perhaps, but it's also not a reason to vote against him--particularly if his case is otherwise strong. And it is.

Dean may look like a loser on paper to some, but he performs/campaigns like a winner.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:08 PM
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10. Good piece...Thanks for the link
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 02:09 PM by Rowdyboy
And if Wes Clark loses the nomination, Dean will have my total support.
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Atlant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:13 PM
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12. Thank you.
> And if Wes Clark loses the nomination, Dean will have my total support.

Thank you.

Atlant
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:11 PM
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11. mmmmm
I love the chewy moral center!

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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 04:15 PM
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14. One of the strong points for Dean is he actually has
a good, solid, progressive record to run on.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 04:18 PM
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15. Lies are moral?
How could he answer questionnaire claiming his brother was POW/MIA? Despicable!
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 04:19 PM
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16. His brother was POW/MIA
But don't let facts get in the way of your outrage.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 04:43 PM
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17. Use a search engine.
Show me. I hope you aren't going to use the Wall story again. That Charles Dean was an African-American whose body was recovered. What is the new story?
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chocolateeater Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 04:57 PM
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18. Here's a link.
And it's from July.
http://wits2020.net/archives/000314.html

<snip>
Pieced together in later years, many of the whys and wherefores of Charlie's journey remain a mystery: a freighter from Seattle to Japan, then Bali, then Australia, then to Laos, where his dad knew a man in USAID. Why Laos? Perhaps Charlie was just on the hippie circuit, and saw it as a way station to Nepal. Perhaps he wanted the thrill of seeing the flickering flame of the Indochina war he had wanted to help try to end. Later, his parents thought that perhaps he had become a spy--a theory fueled by the fact that the Army listed this civilian as a POW/MIA. "I don't happen to believe it, but for all I know he was in the CIA," says Howard Dean.
<snip>
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 05:05 PM
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21. That's a link to speculation.
Where is the link to the Army listing him as POW/MIA. Dean says in your snip that he doesn't believe it. Why did he answer questionnaire that way? Pandering?
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chocolateeater Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 05:30 PM
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24. If you look at closely at these two sentences you will see
that he doesn't believe his brother was a spy. It talks about his parents theory that his brother was a spy. The fuel for this theory was the fact that Charlie Dean-a civilian-was classified as a POW/MIA. In the next sentence when Dr Dean says,"I don't happen to believe it", he's referring to his parents' theory.
"Later, his parents thought that perhaps he had become a spy--a theory fueled by the fact that the Army listed this civilian as a POW/MIA. "I don't happen to believe it, but for all I know he was in the CIA," says Howard Dean."
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 05:36 PM
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25. If you look closely this is a blog
A blog is not a source unless it is firsthand knowledge which can be supported. Where is the link to the Army classifying him as a POW/MIA.
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chocolateeater Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 05:49 PM
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26. If you go to the top of the page
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 06:44 PM by Mflorence
you'll see it's a reproduction of a Newsweek article. I couldn't find a link to the original article. Here is a link from AII POW-MIA:
http://www.aiipowmia.com/usg/civilians.html
on edit:Here's a link to a PDF file from the Defense Prisoner of War/ Missing Personel Office
http://www.dtic.mil/dpmo/pmsea/pmsea_una_p_civilian.pdf
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 07:31 PM
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27. That was not the question.
The questionnaire asked "Who is the closest member of your family in military
service? " This says Civilian. He pandered.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 04:58 PM
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19. check the news---the ARMY classified his brother as POW/MIA
hmmm, let's not speak ill of the dead, ok? have manners, please.
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 05:05 PM
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20. We've rehashed this sucker too many times...
But the question was about being in the armed services - Dean should have just left the answer blank if he didn't know.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 05:07 PM
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22. What news?
To pander is such an insult to the POW/MIA. Manners?
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worldgonekrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 05:14 PM
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23. That and Dean's populist appeal is why he has my support
Pragmatic Populism.

Government of by and for the people.

It's time.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 07:51 PM
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28. Exactly on target
The people can sense it as well. This is why our meetup keeps growing by 30 to 40 people every month.
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