We're f'n doooooooooomed!

[Drunken Irishman]

It's over!

He's done.

We're done!

OMFGGGGZ

[FrenchieCat]

1. Krugman, is that you?

[billybob537]

2. Hey Chicken little LIGHTEN UP.

[alcibiades_mystery]

3. It's the RW talking point of the day

Obama's irrelevant!

The response is a disaster!

Fire Geithner!

Woe!

That certain elements on the left who despise Obama (and I don't exclude various NY Times columnists) would fall right in step with today's spaghetti flinging is not surprising. I remember when "Obama's making the same mistakes as Kerry!" and when "This Palin thing is slipping away from Obambi!" and when "OMFG Obama's gonna lose Pennsylvania!" (he won by 11% - I only predicted a 10% win throughout the Chicken Little Panic Phase of DU), and etc., etc., etc...

Are these people ever right?

[Drunken Irishman]

4. No.

[MercutioATC]

5. Show me a light at the end of the tunnel and you can call me Chicken Little.

Had everybody been a little less of a Pollyanna, many people wouldn't be in such bad shape.

[Drunken Irishman]

6. IT'S OVER! HE'S GONNA LOSE IN A 50 STATE LANDSLIDE 4 YEARS FROM NOW!

HE'S TOOOOAST!

:o

[alcibiades_mystery]

7. McCain's Focusing on PA! Obambi's lead is down to 8%!!!! Oh NOOOOO!

:rofl:

Idiots.

[MercutioATC]

11. I wouldn't go that far, but...

...most people (aside from the "experts" who didn't see this coming) agree that this approach isn't working.

All of our eggs are in one basket here. If Ovama's plan doesn't work, we stand a chance of losing a lot of support.

[Drunken Irishman]

13. You mean the economy didn't turn around in a month?

Wow, that is a SHOCK!

[alcibiades_mystery]

17. A month...hell, they waited a whole three weeks

This is monumental restraint on the part of the Chicken Littles.

[Grateful for Hope]

20. Exactly. n/t

[freemarketer6]

38. No, it isn't. And the declining spiral of despair increases every

day. My wife and I have now lost about 60% of our retirement. And we thought we were in pretty safe stuff. Today, after lunch some time I'll show my wife where we are financially, and give her the opportunity to help me decide what to do. One thing we will do regardless is not spend a penny on anything except replenishing retirement funds. Every one I know will be doing the same thing. The consumer drives the economy, but many will not be driving this economy. After I finish the taxes I'll start on a job hunt. Don't know that I have much worth anymore, but I'll give it a shot. Have some medical problems and today's employer doesn't like to hire folks with medical problems. Worst comes to worse and I can't find anything, I'll commit suicide next year some time. I've had an insurance policy since 1985 so I'm long past the 2-year waiver for deniability of benefits. And then that will be it. I hope my wife will be okay. I'd pray, but I'm not really a believer anymore. When I watched my government slaughter all those innocent Iraqis based on a lie, that was pretty much it for me spiritually.

As far as the Obama administration goes, the single biggest disaster is Tim Geithner. Financial markets like organization and specificity--Geithner is not organized (no undersecretaries appointed yet: zero) and rarely gives specifics. Obama could have done better hiring a cue ball than Tim Geithner. I'm sure there is some good reason to hire a tax cheat to be Treasury Secretary at a time when cheats are trying to be exposed and removed from positions, but I can't figure out what it is. There are many other things where I feel Obama is going the wrong direction but it is premature to complain too much. Every President moves in a Brownian Movement fashion during his first 90 days, and Obama's first 90 days have been and are going to continue to be the roughest of any President's in history. As a former Controller I have seen things that Obama is doing that do not look operationally or fiscally sound to me, but there may be something I'm not seeing. I campaigned hard for Obama so I have to give him a chance... No matter who got elected President there was going to be increasing Socialism: there are just too many people to care for and limited funds with which to do that. I knew the conversion process would be difficult.

Well, anyway, I could write a White Paper on what I think should be done now, but I don't have a lot of posts, so that would just get me called more names than what I've already written will. One thing I'm wondering about is the Cincinnati Tea Party that is about to be held at Fountain Square this weekend. It should have about three thousand people. I have heard it is being attended by both Democrats and Republicans. I'll be curious to see what their complaints are, and how they match mine. I wrote long ago that I believed Iraq would be the US's Parthia, and that is coming true right before our very eyes.

Anyway, good luck to everyone in their future endeavors. I sure hope Igor Panarin is wrong about the US breakup next year. Ten, even five years ago I would have laughed at his predictions. Now, I am not laughing...about really anything.

[cliffordu]

40. It's the gamble we took. Dance with the one that brung ya.

[Better Believe It]

29. Obama has pointed out that he does not expect to be a second term President if ....

the economy isn't much better in 2012.

He's right.

Will you be slamming President Obama for making such a statement?

[vaberella]

36. Hahahaha...CRAP

I heard when he made the statement. He said that if people don't think he did a good job on the economy they could vote him out. But by your posts you've been wanting him out before he's even been in...so whatever.

[FrenchieCat]

9. Patience is a virtue......

Your lack of it says more about you than anything.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8248260&mesg_id=8248260

[MercutioATC]

12. Seems like Bush said that about Iraq.

If I had any faith in the plan, I'd be patient.

I simply don't think that letting the idiots that didn't see this coming call the shots and dump trillions of good dollars after bad is a recipe for recovery.

[FrenchieCat]

15. In that way you reveal yourself.....in believing that Obama and the economy

are in anyway a similar case to Bush and Iraq.

The same idiots who didn't see things coming are the ones now giving advise away for free.
Now they believe to know even what they don't know.

Posturing as though one has an understanding on the issue of the economy,
doesn't mean one has an understanding on the issue of the economy.

[Drunken Irishman]

16. It's no use. Obama said the economy would get worse before it got better.

Some didn't listen. He knew this wouldn't fix itself within a month of his stimulus being passed.

Yet some expected it? WTF?

[MercutioATC]

19. You confuse my critique of this plan with impatience.

Any plan is going to take 5-6 years at a minimum to work. I know that.

I just don't believe that THIS plan will work at all. At very best, it's an incredibly wasteful way to approach the problem.

[Drunken Irishman]

27. Sorry, you're right.

My bad, I apologize, you have a crystal ball and can look into the future. I did not know this. Maybe if you had disclosed this fact earlier, we wouldn't need to have any type of debate, since you obviously know what is and isn't going to work, even before it has time to do so.

Good to know!

[MercutioATC]

31. Why would anybody need a crystal ball?

The signs that this crisis was coming have been there for years. Hell, even I picked up on them a little over two years ago.

Do you really think it's a good idea to trust the people who didn't see this coming to fix it...handing them trillions of dollars in the process?


Finding problems with this plan doesn't require a crystal ball, just a little common sense.

[Drunken Irishman]

33. You're not finding problems.

You're automatically assuming Pres. Obama is setting us up for failure and I refuse to believe this. I don't know what the future holds, but I'll be damned to just state we're fucked like you pretty much have.

It must suck being so goddamn negative all the time. Maybe this is why the economy is going to struggle, because people like you and the dolts on CNBC spend their every waking moment saying how fucking doomed we are. A self-fulfilling prophecy, maybe?

[MercutioATC]

35. Actually, being realistic (not negative) has paid off quite well lately.

I'll admit to being vocal about what I see as problems (notice my new tongue-in-cheek avatar).

I'm not stating that we're fucked (at least, not in the long term). I'm not suggesting that we're doomed.

I am being realistic, however. We're absolutely fucked in the short term, it's going to take 5-6 years to dig out under the best of circumstances, I don't think Obama's recovery plan is going to work (even though I support almost everything else he's doing), and it might behoove people to shed some of their Pollyanna and adopt a bit of Chicken Little.

[Drunken Irishman]

37. How are you being realistic?

You haven't even given this plan a time to succeed. That's not realism, that's falling inline with everyone who's trying to damage the current president.

You aren't being realistic at all. You're being negative. Realistic would concede that you're going to take a wait and see approach because no one fully knows how this is going to shake out and if they say they do, well they're full of bullshit.

[quakerboy]

39. We were accused of believing he was the messiah

and now they are mad he is not. They were the confused ones all along.

[MercutioATC]

18. You make my point for me.

However, the people now calling the shots HAVE a track record...and it's not good.

Why would you put faith in a plan proposed by idiots which advises handing trillions to the same people who created the problem?

[Drunken Irishman]

28. Why wouldn't you trust Barack Obama?

Or are you going to state he hasn't earned your trust?

:eyes:

[MercutioATC]

30. Trust is one thing...blind trust is another.

I think he has the best intentions. I think he believes in what he's doing.

I also think he's in over his head (as anybody would be with this situation) and he's letting the wrong people whisper in his ear.


I like a lot of the decisions he's made, I just don't believe that handing trillions of dollars to the people who helped create this situation and expecting them to fix it is rational.

[Drunken Irishman]

34. You're not even trusting. You're flat out refusing.

You sound just like Rush Limbaugh and his boil bots.

I'm not blindly trusting Obama, but I'll be damned if I'm going to throw my hands up and call his economic policies a failure even before they've had a chance to have any goddamn impact.

Jesus, I'd hate to see you in real life. You give up way too easily.

[Grateful for Hope]

22. Sure seems weird that you are equating Obama to Bush.

In my mind, there is absolutely no comparison. Obama has promised that he will change course if he sees that the the plan(s) he has implemented are not working. Bush, on the other hand, never promised anything -- anything except to enrich his already rich cronies.

And, let's not address the relative intelligence of these two men. Enough said.

On edit: Just thought of where I have seen you elsewhere here on DU. On second thought, I am not surprised at your posts.

[MercutioATC]

23. I'm not equating the two men.

I'm suggesting that "give it more time" is a bad idea when you're working with a flawed plan.

...whether it's Bush's Iraq plan or Obama's recovery plan.

[Grateful for Hope]

25. Well

all I can say that, unless you are an expert on economic matters, there is not a lot you can say about the current plan. In addition, these times are not, strictly speaking, analogous to anything we have ever experienced before.

We are in uncharted territory, and, I think that we need to trust that our current administration will rapidly change course if they see that things are not working.

[MercutioATC]

26. You mean like the "experts" who failed to see this coming?

The "experts" who failed to regulate the banks?

Maybe the "experts" who recommend handing trillions to the same people who screwed up in the first place?


No, I'm not an "expert"...but even I have a better track record than the people currently making policy.

[Grateful for Hope]

21. Couldn't agree more. n/t

[Renew Deal]

8. WE'RE PLUCKED!

:evilgrin:

[specimenfred1984]

10. Let's go hide in Colbert's "Doom Bunker"

All animals are going to be devoured by "Koala Pox"!

[azmouse]

14. mmmmm..... chicken!

I'm gonna get drunk tonight and forget all about the problems of the world for just one night.

[Sultana]

24. Cute movie

:)

that's all

[vaberella]

32. Coming from people on this board and the MSN....I wonder why I have to believe it. n/t