Who is more damaging to the Democratic Party ?

[Blarch]

Poll question: Who is more damaging to the Democratic Party ?

Who is more damaging to the Democratic Party ? ... (Democrats only please)

[Joe the Liberal]

1. There's a bunch.......

Liebermann, Reid, Pelosi, Blago, the list goes on.

[Swamp Rat]

2. Pelosi for blocking impeachemnt, even after conservatives like Bruce Fein suggested she do otherwise

[Blarch]

3. She got my vote.

[fadedrose]

10. Me too,,,,,,nt

[TahitiNut]

28. Ditto

:thumbsup:

[yy4me]

4. Can I have two votes, my choice is hard to make. The two top

so-spine politico's are hard to choose from.

[Blarch]

5. It's a thinker.

[NV Whino]

6. I voted for Reid, but really

it's a toss up between Reid and Pelosi.

[Sebastian Doyle]

7. Every last fucking spineless DLC/BlueBalled coward.

If you want to call them "Democrats". I don't.

[polichick]

8. Yep.

[ChiciB1]

38. Ding! Ding! Ding!!!! I'm Willing To Give The New Administration A Chance...

BUT I also know that there are MANY, MANY DLCer's that scare me. Presently I'm waiting to EXHALE!

[camera obscura]

9. Blago is just a passing fad. Pelosi can get bills passed occasionally. Reid's my pick.

The guy is a failure.

[PassingFair]

11. Reid makes us all look like wimps.

Blago is just comic relief.

Pelosi straddles the true democratic "middle"
and gets trashed from all sides.

[JimGinPA]

12. Whoever Voted Obama Should Be TS'd

This poll reeks of negativity anyway.

[wyldwolf]

32. ... what about the person who made Obama an option?

[Sebastian Doyle]

44. So should the ones who voted Dean or Kucinich.

Sure, let's vote against the only Democrats with a spine.

[stillcool]

13. I had to go with Harry...

although it's not his fault that the majority of our government representatives are not interested in passing legislation that benefits anyone but 'business interests'.

[IndianaGreen]

14. Other: Joe Lieberman

He is still in the Democratic caucus, still chairs the powerful Homeland Security Committee, and he has been blessed by Reid and Obama. Lieberman is a fascist mole that will frak the Democrats again, and again!

[NYC_SKP]

15. Low Information Democrats, and those who don't vote at all.

If more of us were informed and active, we'd have fewer of the shitty ones in office.

[TTUBatfan2008]

16. Other...

It's the combination of Reid and Pelosi, the top two leaders in Congress...a Congress with an embarrassing approval rating.

[IsItJustMe]

17. Other: The Democratic voters who don't think and join lynch mobs when it popular to do so.

[TexasObserver]

18. Pelosi. She had a workable majority, but she consistently caved when she didn't need to.

Reid has the excuse of dealing with the senate rules, which enable 40 senators to stop most actions.

The governor? He's just a guy who may or may not have done anything illegal. The worst, most political Justice department in the history of America investigated him and everyone he knows for three years, including installing wire taps a month before the Obama election. They didn't do that because they thought he might "sell" the Obama seat. They were fishing for anything they could use to besmirch Obama. They didn't find it. But a month after the election, they claim they found evidence he was going to sell the appointment, and their useful idiot, Patrick Fitzgerald, accommodated them.

He never had the will or the skill to nail Rove for treason, but he was Mr. Johnny on the Spot when the GOP needed a hack to smear the next president.

He goes down in history as the weaker, dumber little brother of Ken Starr.

[DevonRex]

19. Who the hell voted Obama is more damaging to party???

That's just wrong.

[Blarch]

22. My guess.

Bitter Hillary supporters.

[blue_onyx]

42. I don't get that

but I don't understand the votes for Hillary either. Maybe people who aren't over the primary?

[DevonRex]

43. To tell you the truth I didn't pick anybody. For one thing, I think the party

will be okay no matter what. For another thing, with perhaps the exception of Blago, all those dems seem to have good intentions. I might disagree with them on issues, or with how they handle things, but that doesn't mean they're harmful to the party.

Sure, I would have liked impeachment, so if I had to name anybody it might have been Pelosi. On the other hand, impeachment just might have solidified centrist independents into the right wing camp. So even on that, I can't claim to be an expert with all the right answers.

So I agree with you. Picking Hillary??? Good grief. She's a strong democrat, a good democrat. She has accepted a position that puts the country first, rather than staying in her Senate seat - which would have been hers as long as she wanted it, even decades.

I swear I'm tired of the circular firing squad.

[Dawgs]

20. WTF, five votes for Obama?

I guess you people would rather see McCain (or four more years of Bush).

[bdamomma]

21. I voted for Reid, but there are many of them who will try to dictate

to Obama and I hope Obama sets them straight.

[Bluenorthwest]

23. Reid takes the biscuit

A rough contest to be sure, but Reid walks with the top prize.

[depakid]

25. No doubt

[bottomtheweaver]

24. I don't think Obama is being well served by his current advisors.

That includes the team who picked Warren, which, wouldn't ya know, included Feinstein, Hoyer, Reid and Pelosi. Obama needs to dump his new friends and stick with his hold ones, that is if he can find the bus he tossed them under, just kidding about the bus.

[BlueMTexpat]

26. I went with Pelosi for reasons already stated by others.

Reid & Hoyer were close seconds ... Blago, as noted, is the bad flavor du jour but is not in a position of national power. LIEberman is a POS and a traitor, but has become mostly irrelevant and I sincerely hope that he gets booted out in his next bid for re-election.

Whoever voted for Howard Dean, who enabled not only Obama's victory but the Dem majorities in Congress, ought to be hung, drawn and quartered, IMO, and is likely a troll.

Those who voted for Obama are simply delusional. Sure, he will disappoint each of us in some ways.

But I personally am SO glad that he will be our next President that I can live with small disappointments, so long as he gets the big things right.

[mtnsnake]

27. Pelosi by a country mile

for jumping into bed with Bush right after the 2006 elections.

[S_E_Fudd]

29. Kucinich...

Is is wasting a seat in Congress that could be filled by someone actually trying to accomplish something...

[Forkboy]

31. LOL

:crazy:

[peaches2003]

30. Why no movement to oust Reid and Pelosi?

Why is Congress so loyal to these 2? It is obvious they have been totally ineffective these past 2 years and just their personalities are harmful to the party. I don't care if their feelings get hurt or not. They've had their chance and they need to go.

[greguganus]

33. Obama's getting more votes than Hillary. n/t

[Posteritatis]

34. I wish I could say I was surprised

At least he's not leading. Oy.

[goodhue]

35. Hoyer

eom

[chieftain]

36. Other- Blue Dog Democrats

I note that Evan Bayh is looking to form a BD caucus in the Senate to parallel the one in the House. These "moderate" Democrats sell out progressive ideas too readily. I am hopeful that Obama's grass roots network will be used to instill some party discipline on these folks. Pelosi and Reid would both be more effective if they could count on Democrats supporting Democratic policies.

[Madison knows]

37. Reid and Pelosi have more votes than Blagiojevich...?

Okay...

[Sebastian Doyle]

40. How has Blagojevich enabled the Chimpministration?

Reid and Pelosi have rolled over for the right wingers time and time again.

[ProSense]

39. Reid and Pelosi are voted in as majority leaders by the Democratic caucus.

If they are damaging to the party, then the blame lies with all the Democrats who select them as the leadership.

Apparently the Democrats in the Senate and Obama don't believe that Pelosi and Reid are more damaging to the Party than Blagojevich. His unethical actions not only impact Illinois' Senate seat, but also focuses a negative light on the Dems and their attempts to fight corruption. Blagojevich is a complete moron. He knew he was being investigated and decided to discuss the selling the Senate seat. That's beyond moronic. He wasn't the least bit concerned about the impact his actions would have if exposed during Obama's transition or Presidency, and his characterization of Obama as a MF***** is evidence of this.

Maybe Fitzgerald should have waited and caught Blagojevich in the act of actually attempting to sell the seat or trading it for favors. Of course, that had the potential of becoming a bigger scandal (hard to know whether it would be more or less of a headache for Dems), and Blago would still be innocent until proven guilty, but at least there would be less sympathy for him (I think).

[Milo_Bloom]

41. Anyone who tries to reach the mythical middle

[anonymous171]

45. DLCers.

I'm not really even that liberal, but I fucking hate the DLC.

[wyldwolf]

47. "progressives"

whiners

[anonymous171]

48. Progressives are irritating because they are terrible at politics.

Their ideas are, for the most part, completely right and good. The problem with progressives is that they cannot hold a coalition together long enough to force their ideas through congress.

[wyldwolf]

49. that is 100% correct

I would add, though, that since they are so terrible at politics, they often demand things be given to them instead of having to earn them at the ballot box.

[anonymous171]

50. Yep. nt

[vinylsolution]

46. Two more votes:

... one each for Joe Lieberman and Ken Salazar.

Both rotten RINO's who should be extinct.